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My post was not an either or. I believe the 14 position is going to become more and more important in the future with the speed of the game now and injuries. The whole squad will become much more important. I think Fitz is actively moving in that direction too, but that’s just speculation on my part.

Having an awesome 17 that remain injury free the whole year and win the title is a unicorn.
Hard to tell. Atm I think what we have seen supports Fitz prefers four forwards until ranks get a bit thin, but Moylan is a new factor into that and may be preferred to more of the bench forwards than Trindall was.

I just hope next season we can spend a lot more time than not picking from (or close to) our best players.

I'm fine with one bench spot being a 'just in case utility' - the main downside of this is the people all saying they don't get it every week he's not needed

We needed a little shake up and needed to make some changes.

I would never of dropped Kennedy, Tieg and Finucane, but the footy gods made that decision for us.

I’m running with Tracey, Graham and McInnes even if there’s a miracle recovery.

Those other 3 will be handy inclusions for next season.
TBF if we knew Graham would take on the reprise like this I would have dropped Teig for him.

If Kennedy did come good in time, and he is the most likely of the three, he'd have to be 100% good and move Tracey to bench.
Don't want a repeat of last season with still wounded Kennedy out there hurting us. And actually, if Tracey kept killing it and we were winning I'd be hard pressed even to replace him at all.
 

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If Kennedy did come good in time, and he is the most likely of the three, he'd have to be 100% good and move Tracey to bench.
Don't want a repeat of last season with still wounded Kennedy out there hurting us. And actually, if Tracey kept killing it and we were winning I'd be hard pressed even to replace him at all.
Agree. Unless Kennedy is ready to play last round (and assuming we keep this form), I would be hesitant to rush him back for the finals. Tracey is getting better each week.
 

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Tracey I don't think he has been placed under the immense kick chase pressure under bombs that the better teams comes finals will put him under.

Kennedy if fit is so safe in this regard and we know what he brings with the ball. But I like Tracey's energy and what he does in defense. Tough one but I think Tracey will struggle more under Finals pressure and against quality sides than Kennedy.

Would give Tracey Moylans bench spot if it came to that.

Wade over Teig at the moment.

Dale's an interesting one, while his experience and tackles would be handy who could you punt of our good performing forwards to make room for him? Rudolf is the only one I could make a case to be replaced but even then Rudolf is alot better with his carries than Dale and makes alot of tackles himself.

Fitz would do something stupid like dropping Hunt or Hazleton to make room for him despite those lads being what we need more than a Dale right now.

We need to stick with the power game for the time being, has been bringing us success.
 

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Tracey I don't think he has been placed under the immense kick chase pressure under bombs that the better teams comes finals will put him under.

Kennedy if fit is so safe in this regard and we know what he brings with the ball. But I like Tracey's energy and what he does in defense. Tough one but I think Tracey will struggle more under Finals pressure and against quality sides than Kennedy.

Would give Tracey Moylans bench spot if it came to that.

Wade over Teig at the moment.

Dale's an interesting one, while his experience and tackles would be handy who could you punt of our good performing forwards to make room for him? Rudolf is the only one I could make a case to be replaced but even then Rudolf is alot better with his carries than Dale and makes alot of tackles himself.

Fitz would do something stupid like dropping Hunt or Hazleton to make room for him despite those lads being what we need more than a Dale right now.

We need to stick with the power game for the time being, has been bringing us success.
I think Hazelton is close to our best forward atm. Surely he cant be dropped.
 

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Tracey I don't think he has been placed under the immense kick chase pressure under bombs that the better teams comes finals will put him under.

Kennedy if fit is so safe in this regard and we know what he brings with the ball. But I like Tracey's energy and what he does in defense. Tough one but I think Tracey will struggle more under Finals pressure and against quality sides than Kennedy.

Would give Tracey Moylans bench spot if it came to that.

Wade over Teig at the moment.

Dale's an interesting one, while his experience and tackles would be handy who could you punt of our good performing forwards to make room for him? Rudolf is the only one I could make a case to be replaced but even then Rudolf is alot better with his carries than Dale and makes alot of tackles himself.

Fitz would do something stupid like dropping Hunt or Hazleton to make room for him despite those lads being what we need more than a Dale right now.

We need to stick with the power game for the time being, has been bringing us success.
Funnily enough I think Tracey is more dangerous to us then Kennedy come finals time

Kennedy has a tendency to go in and out of games especially if our backline sweeps aren’t happening often which against top teams does happen, things don’t often go your way… but we could knock over top teams through effort and relentlessness to throw everything at them which isn’t structured and I reckon Tracey will be perfect for that
 

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Dale's an interesting one, while his experience and tackles would be handy who could you punt of our good performing forwards to make room for him? Rudolf is the only one I could make a case to be replaced but even then Rudolf is alot better with his carries than Dale and makes alot of tackles himself.

Fitz would do something stupid like dropping Hunt or Hazleton to make room for him despite those lads being what we need more than a Dale right now.
Since he's not even as good as 15 minute benchies and first year NRL players, I guess there must be another reason why Finucane is one of the first players picked by every coach he's ever had. Maybe he's just really good at singing the team song.

I guess it's possible that some fans don't actually understand the value a player can bring outside of big runs and big hits, but it's probably the team song thing.
 

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If they stay healthy, make no changes and keep the current team all the way, those coming back from injuries can wait as reserves.
 

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Dale's an interesting one, while his experience and tackles would be handy who could you punt of our good performing forwards to make room for him? Rudolf is the only one I could make a case to be replaced but even then Rudolf is alot better with his carries than Dale and makes alot of tackles himself.
Moylan can drop off the bench
Use Finucane as that expericed middle for last 20 mins to bring the intensity to clowe out a game
 

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Funnily enough I think Tracey is more dangerous to us then Kennedy come finals time

Kennedy has a tendency to go in and out of games especially if our backline sweeps aren’t happening often which against top teams does happen, things don’t often go your way… but we could knock over top teams through effort and relentlessness to throw everything at them which isn’t structured and I reckon Tracey will be perfect for that

Tracey brings the same energy and enthusiasm in the first minute and the 80th. I could see an argument that they way he plays over the 80 is more consistent and his head doesn't seem to drop as much if something doesn't go right with the ball.

If Kennedy were back I would hope we still play that direct and power game cause the sweep play stuff doesn't come off against the better sides.
So Kennedy supporting up the middle more opposed to be an active ball player on our spreads. But really he can and should be doing both.

Since he's not even as good as 15 minute benchies and first year NRL players, I guess there must be another reason why Finucane is one of the first players picked by every coach he's ever had. Maybe he's just really good at singing the team song.

I guess it's possible that some fans don't actually understand the value a player can bring outside of big runs and big hits, but it's probably the team song thing.

Nailed it, defs the team song thing cause it can't be for his on field performances or so called leadership the last 12 months.

Forwards running over blokes, scoring trys and smacking them in tackles defs brings value to a team and we have missed it for too long but now we are getting it back.

While coaches are loyal and stubborn they do have to manage many things we don't see from the outside and know things we don't. They also heavily value leadership and experience.

Coach Gandi also picked Moylan month in month out even though he forgot how to tackle.

Despite all the insights and resources at a coaches disposal, they do make selection mistakes, it happens. They can get it wrong.

This isn't about easy in hindsight like the Moylan thing. As of right now Dale has been getting outplayed by other forwards in our team, many on less coin.

Ignoring whatever the **** is happening with the piece of bench Matt Moylan is warming for 75 mins a week what player would you drop from this weeks team to be replaced by Dale?

Isn't Dale out for the year? Why do people keep saying he is returning from injury?

Isn't it just Will who could come back for the finals?

We are arguing over hypotheticals that don't matter like any half decent internet footy forum

Burgo and me are having a knife fight later

Loser has to consolidate 30 years of missed tackle data into a pie chart by dawn.
.... using a fax machine.
 

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Forwards running over blokes, scoring trys and smacking them in tackles defs brings value to a team and we have missed it for too long but now we are getting it back.
I wonder why those big blokes are scoring tries and running over blokes. Do you think they are doing it because they are better than Dale, or because some other big strong blokes got them a nice quick play the ball?

As of right now Dale has been getting outplayed by other forwards in our team, many on less coin.
Well as of right now he's not playing, so you are correct. Prior to his injury, I disagree.

Ignoring whatever the **** is happening with the piece of bench Matt Moylan is warming for 75 mins a week what player would you drop from this weeks team to be replaced by Dale?
Hunt or Hazelton. Probably Hunt.

The bench forwards are looking good playing their roles for limited minutes in games when nobody gets hurt or HIA'd, and the Sharks are dominating possession. When that stuff suddenly doesn't go the Sharks way and they need someone to play 50 minutes with only 42% possession... give me Finucane (and McInnes) over any other Shark.

Burgo and me are having a knife fight later
As in, an argument about knives?
 

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Big strong bloke gets big strong play the ball so Dale can fall into a tackle for a 4m gain and then take someones head off and get suspended - nice

Replacing Hunt right now would be madness, we gotta ride the wave while he firing. Hazo is an even more ridiculous suggestion , he's a beast

If we are down on possession we are probs screwed anyway, we gotta go all in on the power game and hope we can gain the upper hand. A tackle bot like Dale isn't going to be the difference maker, a player like Hunt or Nut can be

We haven't missed Dale that much, MciNess has it all over him

@ Wiz - The SF hill is littered with corpses

@ Burgo - rubber knives, not discussing, just slashing. see you at the lab
 

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Big strong bloke gets big strong play the ball so Dale can fall into a tackle for a 4m gain and then take someones head off and get suspended - nice

Replacing Hunt right now would be madness, we gotta ride the wave while he firing. Hazo is an even more ridiculous suggestion , he's a beast

If we are down on possession we are probs screwed anyway, we gotta go all in on the power game and hope we can gain the upper hand. A tackle bot like Dale isn't going to be the difference maker, a player like Hunt or Nut can be

We haven't missed Dale that much, MciNess has it all over him

@ Wiz - The SF hill is littered with corpses

@ Burgo - rubber knives, not discussing, just slashing. see you at the lab
Rubber knives I can do.

Also yes

Burg is doing this thing he usually does where he eventually ends up dying on the hill

Very admirable
Very happy to die on the "Dale Finucane is good at Rugby League" hill.

How about Connor Tracey though eh?
 
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Rubber knives I can do.


Very happy to die on the "Dale Finucane is good at Rugby League" hill.

How about Connor Tracey though eh?
Good to see you back.
Its been a while.

Did you ban yourself for a week?
I’d like to see the post that banned you……..
 

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Good to see you back.
Its been a while.

Did you ban yourself for a week?
I’d like to see the post that banned you……..
Haha yeah. I told myself to go suck a lemon.

I’ve been here. Just no long posts. All part of the plan for us underground Moylan-lovers to hide in the shadows
 
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