Official Braydon Trindall

[Deleted member 3365]

Atkinson plays just as well in ressies, he does little things that go unnoticed and is a better defender than trindall.
trindalls game management isnt as strong as people are suggesting, jets have lost big leads with him in and out of the team. its not like he can get them back on track

i believe that is just more than a tricky v moylan situation

the comment about not respecting the ball is spot on, we need to earn the right to play with the ball. We are also hopeless at controlling the ruck which leads to the defense being in all sorts.

fix those things then we can talk about who partners hymes

To say the Jets have lost leads with him in and out of the team sounds like a Jets issue not a Trindall issue.

Remember we are just suggesting we give him a go, he ain't going to set the world on fire, but he has more in his arsenal to help our team and more time to develop those skills.

 

[Up-Up Cronulla]

It is now very clear we will not be challenging for the title this year. Moylan peaked years ago and will not be in a squad that wins us a GF. He is both physically and mentally fragile. It's time to look towards the future and bring Trindall in because in the next few years he well may be.

 

[HaroldBishop]

It is now very clear we will not be challenging for the title this year. Moylan peaked years ago and will not be in a squad that wins us a GF. He is both physically and mentally fragile. It's time to look towards the future and bring Trindall in because in the next few years he well may be.

Used to be, certainly not the case the last couple of seasons.

 

[Deleted member 3365]

It is now very clear we will not be challenging for the title this year. Moylan peaked years ago and will not be in a squad that wins us a GF. He is both physically and mentally fragile. It's time to look towards the future and bring Trindall in because in the next few years he well may be.

The thing is, a few are saying that there is a "bigger problem" in the team and changing Hynes' partner ain't gonna change the "bigger problem".

We can't change the "bigger problem" in one sitting. You need to start with the small fixable areas, e.g.

1. Halves - issue is Moylan is not up for it, defensively he gets run over, attacking-wise he is slow and offers minimal besides the slick hands. Maybe let's get Trindall in who can defend, who has variety in his passing and kicking and can bring energy to the game. Who also has time to develop.

2. Forwards - our forwards are looking busted and/or only offer below average service. How about McInnes at starting lock, and promote Hazelton and Coulqhoun onto the bench? Might bring more, but hey maybe that's another small attribute of the "bigger problem" addressed.

Yes, there might be a whole attitude issue aswell, but how is Fitz changing the attitude when every week it's the same story? Dropped balls, missed tackles, pushing every play, slow line defence, penalties etc. It looks like his way of addressing the problems is by keeping those who contribute to those problems, and we can't act like it's all new to us, this has been a thing since last year.

 

[bort]

Used to be, certainly not the case the last couple of seasons.

It's quite evident some people aren't even watching him play which makes it hard to take suggestions he needs to be dropped seriously.

The old we won't win a Premiership with X holds very little credibility also, given some people still said it about Chad after 2016

 

[Jaz]

Some nice highlights of the young fella

He's ready.

 

[Wiz]

The thing is, a few are saying that there is a "bigger problem" in the team and changing Hynes' partner ain't gonna change the "bigger problem".

We can't change the "bigger problem" in one sitting. You need to start with the small fixable areas, e.g.

1. Halves - issue is Moylan is not up for it, defensively he gets run over, attacking-wise he is slow and offers minimal besides the slick hands. Maybe let's get Trindall in who can defend, who has variety in his passing and kicking and can bring energy to the game. Who also has time to develop.

2. Forwards - our forwards are looking busted and/or only offer below average service. How about McInnes at starting lock, and promote Hazelton and Coulqhoun onto the bench? Might bring more, but hey maybe that's another small attribute of the "bigger problem" addressed.

Yes, there might be a whole attitude issue aswell, but how is Fitz changing the attitude when every week it's the same story? Dropped balls, missed tackles, pushing every play, slow line defence, penalties etc. It looks like his way of addressing the problems is by keeping those who contribute to those problems, and we can't act like it's all new to us, this has been a thing since last year.

People argue on here just like to argue for the sake of arguing and type words

What you’re saying above is common sense at this point

 

[Up-Up Cronulla]

Used to be, certainly not the case the last couple of seasons.

I get your point and fair call re: past injuries etc but he won't throw himself into defence (without care for life or limb) or run flat out for risk of doing a hammy. I see him on the decline where as I see Trindall has at least the possibility to improve.

 

[Sir Chadley]

Umm no he doesn't, has said plenty of times we have other issues.,

I’ve never said that. Don’t speak for me

Will he make the team & Hynes play better ? Yes

Fair enough. Perhaps I am guilty of going one step too far.

 

[Up-Up Cronulla]

The thing is, a few are saying that there is a "bigger problem" in the team and changing Hynes' partner ain't gonna change the "bigger problem".

We can't change the "bigger problem" in one sitting. You need to start with the small fixable areas, e.g.

1. Halves - issue is Moylan is not up for it, defensively he gets run over, attacking-wise he is slow and offers minimal besides the slick hands. Maybe let's get Trindall in who can defend, who has variety in his passing and kicking and can bring energy to the game. Who also has time to develop.

2. Forwards - our forwards are looking busted and/or only offer below average service. How about McInnes at starting lock, and promote Hazelton and Coulqhoun onto the bench? Might bring more, but hey maybe that's another small attribute of the "bigger problem" addressed.

Yes, there might be a whole attitude issue aswell, but how is Fitz changing the attitude when every week it's the same story? Dropped balls, missed tackles, pushing every play, slow line defence, penalties etc. It looks like his way of addressing the problems is by keeping those who contribute to those problems, and we can't act like it's all new to us, this has been a thing since last year.

Agree step by step and it's the right time to start.

 

[Sharkfox]

Bring Trindall in now, not because he's going to be the saviour or answer, but because we have already seen what the Moylan Hynes pairing offers, and the results wont change. Moylan is at the end of his career, bring in his younger replacement who is ready, and give him time to build his game and combination with Hynes. If the combination goes well, then they can continue to elevate for next two seasons and we will be better for making that call mid season. But if its a disaster and doesnt work, we still have Moylan for next season as an option along with Dykes and Atkinson, or we see whos on the market and could also shop Moylan around.

Cowies are already shopping Townsend around, and look set to sign Brooks. If true, theyre not f#ckn around, even though chad helped them finish 3rd, and go to a prelim final in his first season there, they dont want him after his performances this year. Are we going to persist with Moylan Hynes combo for another year (2024)

 

[SF]

Some nice highlights of the young fella

Also need to add some balance

Newtown vs Norths video

Times:

• 1st Half - 31:20
• Second Half - 50:20, 54:40

I'm keen for him to get into first grade, I just don't want to see the bipolar reaction when he makes a few mistakes as well.

 

[Deleted member 3365]

Also need to add some balance

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=271845192032657

Times:

• 1st Half - 31:20
• Second Half - 50:20, 54:40

I'm keen for him to get into first grade, I just don't want to see the bipolar reaction when he makes a few mistakes as well.

But thats the thing, I know he will make mistakes and he isn't going to be perfect. With that though, he is only 23 and still developing, he isn't our saviour but he might be able to help correct our issue in the halves and on our left edge defence.

We won't know until we try.

 

[Sparkles]

It is now very clear we will not be challenging for the title this year. Moylan peaked years ago and will not be in a squad that wins us a GF. He is both physically and mentally fragile. It's time to look towards the future and bring Trindall in because in the next few years he well may be.

People said the same about Townsend. Certainly not saying you're wrong, just thinking about how tough it would be to rank any of our current squad ahead of their 2016 predessesor (including 2016 Wade vs 2023 Wade).

Actually, have we done that before? Would be an interesting thread.
Maybe you could interchange the 7 and 6 to make it a fairer fight.

 

[Sparkles]

Cowies are already shopping Townsend around, and look set to sign Brooks. If true, theyre not f#ckn around, even though chad helped them finish 3rd, and go to a prelim final in his first season there, they dont want him after his performances this year. Are we going to persist with Moylan Hynes combo for another year (2024)

I genuinely don't care, but I do remember reading that both Townsend and Payton are on record as saying Chad would be around for a good time longer. Things could have changed but I don't think that was too long ago.

 

[Sharkfox]

Even though i prefer having an all forward bench, for Fitz to play it safe or not having to drop Moylan completely, just put him on the bench. Fitz has already wasted a bench spot in the past putting Trindall and Tracey as cover or giving small minutes. He could try get Moylan to ball play in the middle for a stint also. First senior to go or make way is Wade, make him 18th man and free up a bench spot

 

[Jasonstevenswedgie]

To say the Jets have lost leads with him in and out of the team sounds like a Jets issue not a Trindall issue.

Remember we are just suggesting we give him a go, he ain't going to set the world on fire, but he has more in his arsenal to help our team and more time to develop those skills.

the suggestions are he has better game management and defense, neither of which are evident in his games for the jets or first grade.

The thing is, a few are saying that there is a "bigger problem" in the team and changing Hynes' partner ain't gonna change the "bigger problem".

We can't change the "bigger problem" in one sitting. You need to start with the small fixable areas, e.g.

1. Halves - issue is Moylan is not up for it, defensively he gets run over, attacking-wise he is slow and offers minimal besides the slick hands. Maybe let's get Trindall in who can defend, who has variety in his passing and kicking and can bring energy to the game. Who also has time to develop.

2. Forwards - our forwards are looking busted and/or only offer below average service. How about McInnes at starting lock, and promote Hazelton and Coulqhoun onto the bench? Might bring more, but hey maybe that's another small attribute of the "bigger problem" addressed.

Yes, there might be a whole attitude issue aswell, but how is Fitz changing the attitude when every week it's the same story? Dropped balls, missed tackles, pushing every play, slow line defence, penalties etc. It looks like his way of addressing the problems is by keeping those who contribute to those problems, and we can't act like it's all new to us, this has been a thing since last year.

if you want better defense and speed you pick atkinson

 

[bort]

The thing is, a few are saying that there is a "bigger problem" in the team and changing Hynes' partner ain't gonna change the "bigger problem".

We can't change the "bigger problem" in one sitting. You need to start with the small fixable areas, e.g.

1. Halves - issue is Moylan is not up for it, defensively he gets run over, attacking-wise he is slow and offers minimal besides the slick hands. Maybe let's get Trindall in who can defend, who has variety in his passing and kicking and can bring energy to the game. Who also has time to develop.

2. Forwards - our forwards are looking busted and/or only offer below average service. How about McInnes at starting lock, and promote Hazelton and Coulqhoun onto the bench? Might bring more, but hey maybe that's another small attribute of the "bigger problem" addressed.

Yes, there might be a whole attitude issue aswell, but how is Fitz changing the attitude when every week it's the same story? Dropped balls, missed tackles, pushing every play, slow line defence, penalties etc. It looks like his way of addressing the problems is by keeping those who contribute to those problems, and we can't act like it's all new to us, this has been a thing since last year.

But if Trindall isn’t influential enough to point the Jets in the right direction why would the coach suspect he can do it in the NRL?

To say the Jets have lost leads with him in and out of the team sounds like a Jets issue not a Trindall issue.

If it’s a Jets issue whether he is there or not it’s probably a sharks issue whether he is there or not, which suggests he’d have little positive impact, doesn’t it?

 

[bort]

It is now very clear we will not be challenging for the title this year. Moylan peaked years ago and will not be in a squad that wins us a GF. He is both physically and mentally fragile. It's time to look towards the future and bring Trindall in because in the next few years he well may be.

I like that you’ve gone one step further and not only could we not win a Prem with him in a team but even just being in squad loses us a GF!

 

[Deleted member 3365]

the suggestions are he has better game management and defense, neither of which are evident in his games for the jets or first grade.


if you want better defense and speed you pick atkinson

Got to disagree though, Trindall is definitely worth a look at. His doing a good job in Newtown and showed spark in his first hit outs this year.

But if Trindall isn’t influential enough to point the Jets in the right direction why would the coach suspect he can do it in the NRL?


If it’s a Jets issue whether he is there or not it’s probably a sharks issue whether he is there or not, which suggests he’d have little positive impact, doesn’t it?

He definitely has a positive influence for Newtown Jets, cannot deny that.

As I said previously, it's about small fixes to address the issues that contribute to the bigger problem. Trindall doesn't fix the big issue alone, but it will be a start.

For curiousity sake, do you think our current halves don't contribute to the "bigger problem"?