Official Braden Hamlin-Uele

[Deleted member 2543]

If it meant us offering a 3rd year @ 500k would people be happy with that?

Sure.

Contract would be 2025-2027. In that third year the cap will (apparently) be almost $12m. A $500k player in 2027 is the same as a $250k player in 2017. A 31yo BHU is worth that easily.

Just need to be careful about how many contracts get extended into 2028, because those will get a ratchet with a new CBA. Currently only Nicho and AFB are on the books for 2028.

 

[HaroldBishop]

If it meant us offering a 3rd year @ 500k would people be happy with that?

Dunno but no way I'm paying him 700k for the first two, he just hasn't shown he's worth that and it's not like he's a young player you're paying up based on potential.

 

[Western Sharkie]

If it meant us offering a 3rd year @ 500k would people be happy with that?

Yep 3 yrs for a total of ~ $1.5m
I’d be happy for BHU to stick around on that coin.

I really like him and think he is a very good and damaging FRF when fit.
It’s just the constant injuries and the lead time to get back to his best that’s concerning.

Don’t really want to lose him but if he can get ~ $700 pa for 3 yrs then I guess he needs to take that.

Isn’t this the team that we’re taking pay cuts to all stay together.

I think this is a bit different to when Ronnie said that.

We hadn’t just signed one of the 3 best winger/centres in the game directly competing for his spot.

Would love to retain BHU and maybe he will show some loyalty after we rescued him from NthQLD who knows but I’m not expecting he hangs around unfortunately

 

[bort]

Yep 3 yrs for a total of ~ $1.5m
I’d be happy for BHU to stick around on that coin.

I really like him and think he is a very good and damaging FRF when fit.
It’s just the constant injuries and the lead time to get back to his best that’s concerning.

Don’t really want to lose him but if he can get ~ $700 pa for 3 yrs then I guess he needs to take that.


I think this is a bit different to when Ronnie said that.

We hadn’t just signed one of the 3 best winger/centres in the game directly competing for his spot.

Would love to retain BHU and maybe he will show some loyalty after we rescued him from NthQLD who knows but I’m not expecting he hangs around unfortunately

You're offering him less per year than the sharks are haha
He's not gunna take 700k less over three years to stay, call it loyalty but where is the loyalty to him - paying someone else to come in over the top of him so we can't afford him anymore.

700k for a starting nrl prop including some Warriors tax is a pretty fair price for him, we can't afford to match it. They really need a prop too, and everyone knows they have cap space.
Sounds like we offered him and Toby about the same at about the same time and Toby signed straight away, BHU is seeing how things unfold.
BHU ceiling for impact plays in greater than Toby's, but as we are all well aware his inability to refind form after injuries has been a big issue for us.

I do agree it is very different from the Ronnie situation, saying it when you're assured of your place (and probably not talking about leaving that much on the table), although you can run 6-7 middles on game day vs 2 wingers so even with the new guy BHU could very much stay in 17, where competition for Ronnie could put him in reserve grade.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Wasn’t it $500k pa? Pretty sure Punisher quoted that.
I did say approx so if it’s $550 or whatever then that’s fine
I just can’t see us matching ~ $700

 

[The Punisher]

Wasn’t it $500k pa? Pretty sure Punisher quoted that.
I did say approx so if it’s $550 or whatever then that’s fine
I just can’t see us matching ~ $700

Thats what id heard - so using it as the ballpark figure.

 

[Jaz]

Sounds like we offered him and Toby about the same at about the same time and Toby signed straight away, BHU is seeing how things unfold.

Did Toby re-sign on around $550k? I was under the impression it was more.

 

[Deleted member 2543]

It wasn't just Ronnie. BHU said similar stuff the last time he re-signed. Lots of reports that he wasn't interested in leaving and would take less to stay. He even joked after signing that the longer it went the journos would have him playing for free.

Prior to re-signing.

“I don’t want to shop myself around," the powerful forward said.

“Everyone is like, you’ve got to go where the money is, but there’s also career progression as well and success.

“I would 100 per cent take a bit less if meant staying with this group of players to continue to build.

“I’ll still be getting a lot of money compared to other people, so I’ve got to be grateful for that.

“I’ve been here for five years, I love this place. I love the team, I love the staff and what we’re striving towards."

 

[Sparkles]

It wasn't just Ronnie. BHU said similar stuff the last time he re-signed. Lots of reports that he wasn't interested in leaving and would take less to stay. He even joked after signing that the longer it went the journos would have him playing for free.

Prior to re-signing.

The team has changed. The staff have changed. Hopefully what we're striving towards is still the same!
Career progression probably isn't his biggest motivator at 29 either.

It's nice to hear he has thought this way, I just don't think we can hold him to it today.

 

[Deleted member 2543]

The team has changed. The staff have changed. Hopefully what we're striving towards is still the same!
Career progression probably isn't his biggest motivator at 29 either.

It's nice to hear he has thought this way, I just don't think we can hold him to it today.

His last contract was signed May 2022. Same staff.

Since then Tolman, Fiifta, Moylan, Tracey, Ikuvalu out, Kaufusi in. Team is otherwise the same.

I wouldn't say this means he will stay. Just pointing out that when people say Ronnie was the guy talking about this, it wasn't just him.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Thats what id heard - so using it as the ballpark figure.

Yep, all good but Bort was having a dig at me quoting that amount.

 

[Deleted member T1]

Trade NOW ?

Straight swap for their house. #48 hours street

 

[Thresher]

I guess it'd be too much to ask for Andrew Fifita to put up AFB until he finds a place like he did with Shaun Johnson.

AFB would eat a lot more for starters.

 

[Jaz]

Uele does really seem to love the club. I wouldn't say no to a swap for 2024 but would be happy to see him stick around in 2025 too.

 

[bort]

Yep, all good but Bort was having a dig at me quoting that amount.

I was just pointing out suggestion in here is we’ve offered him 1.1m across two years already (supposedly) so changing to 1.5 for three years I don’t think would be attractive to him. I have no issue with you valuing him at that, I just don’t think it’s a deal he’d take.

Punishers 500k number I wasn’t sure if he was saying 500kx3, 550kx2 and 500kx1 or 750kx2 and 500kx1 (or something else entirely).
So I just pointed out I think the warriors extra 700k over your suggested total is likely too much difference for him to pass up.

I also can’t see us matching 700k with our best offer. It he’s happy to stick around for 1.5 over three years then that’s great.
Can gain most of it by not taking up Kaufusi’s option.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Misunderstanding then.

I didn’t mean that we should be only offer him ~ $500, I thought that was what we DID offer (Hence 3x 500).

And yes, I agree that he isn’t going to lowball himself and take that amount to stick around.
The loyalty comment wasn’t around the value of the contract necessarily.
So no, I’m not suggesting he would humour an offer that low, but maybe if we offered closer to $2m over 3 we might have a chance.

 

[bort]

Misunderstanding then.

I didn’t mean that we should be only offer him ~ $500, I thought that was what we DID offer (Hence 3x 500).

And yes, I agree that he isn’t going to lowball himself and take that amount to stick around.
The loyalty comment wasn’t around the value of the contract necessarily.
So no, I’m not suggesting he would humour an offer that low, but maybe if we offered closer to $2m over 3 we might have a chance.

I thought we likely couldn't afford to keep BHU before any of this came out. If true they have offered 2.2 over 3 years we probably can't even get close (IMO).

If our supposed 2 year @ 550k offer (based on what two others said earlier) was before we signed AFB we obviously thought that was fair when we had more money than we have now. So difficult to see us going up.

He might stay for something like low 600s per year over three years but we are already spending (almost) a million a season more on props than we were when we made our old offer.
We'd surely have to lose Williams and Kaufusi to afford it - I know most would agree Kaufusi is expendable but Williams was good for us and I also like him for potentially playing some 13 and being a placeholder between Finucane & McInnes > McInnes & Williams > McInnes/Williams & Colquhoun over next few years.
We'd even potentially be putting Colquhoun at risk I think - if we offered BHU 550k a year before but now have AFB and him chewing up more than 1.5m any extra another club can offer Colquhoun will get very hard to find.

 

[Rob]

I can’t see BHU making our best 17 this year, his lateral defence was horrendous in parts last year and coming back from injury I can’t see him being any better this year.

He pulls of a few highlight hit ups and crunching tackles but that’s it.

Has the ability just can’t see his body ever getting him and keeping him there long enough, shame is a great bloke

 

[bort]

I can’t see BHU making our best 17 this year, his lateral defence was horrendous in parts last year and coming back from injury I can’t see him being any better this year.

He pulls of a few highlight hit ups and crunching tackles but that’s it.

Has the ability just can’t see his body ever getting him and keeping him there long enough, shame is a great bloke

This is my favourite prediction since Finucane won't ever wear a Sharks jersey again (following his season ending injury last year).
And hey, that one's still live too!

My previous favourite was eggs "If Tolman makes the 17 for any game , we must be in DIRE straights in 2022 with injury" and the bloke played 21 games

 

[egg]

This is my favourite prediction since Finucane won't ever wear a Sharks jersey again (following his season ending injury last year).
And hey, that one's still live too!

My previous favourite was eggs "If Tolman makes the 17 for any game , we must be in DIRE straights in 2022 with injury" and the bloke played 21 games

This is my favourite prediction since Finucane won't ever wear a Sharks jersey again (following his season ending injury last year).
And hey, that one's still live too!

My previous favourite was eggs "If Tolman makes the 17 for any game , we must be in DIRE straights in 2022 with injury" and the bloke played 21 games

And they were ALL crap
BUT, I might of gotten a bit carried away also