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Supporters stand up for Trent Elkin - By Danny Weidler - SOURCE SMH
The Sharks players are very happy the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority drama is in the rear-view mirror – but, with ASADA struggling to make a case against Essendon, they must be wondering if they could have fought harder for their reputations. What will be interesting for them is the James Hird challenge to the validity of the entire investigation – if Hird is successful, there could be a spin-off for the Sharks.
There are two people who have borne the brunt for the Sharks ASADA scandal – sports scientist Stephen Dank and their high performance manager Trent Elkin.
The pair told the players the supplements they were using were not banned by ASADA – Elkin even tested them on himself as a way of assuring himself and gaining the trust of the players.
Elkin is banned and Dank will never work in sport again. Dank is now threatening to sue the NRL and chief executive Dave Smith.
Elkin is the person who the players seem most angry with – he was the trusted face in the whole mess. He vouched for and pushed the program. And he has been iced by the players for his poor advice.
This piece is not designed to generate sympathy for Elkin. I received an email from Cheryl Koenig, who wanted to tell us about a different side of Elkin. Cheryl was the NSW Woman of the Year in 2009 and she wrote a book about her son, Jono.
He was a bright and sporty 12-year-old when he was hit by a speeding car and tossed some 20 metres in the air, about 100m from their quiet suburban home in Menai.
He was not expected to live (in fact, died in his mum's arms on the road, then again in the ambulance), and the family was told to prepare for the worst many times as he clung to life on a ventilator in ICU for three weeks. The worst of his injuries was an "extremely severe traumatic brain injury". When he opened his eyes after about a month, he couldn't speak or move a muscle.
Elkin worked tirelessly with her son – improving his physical state and talking him out of thoughts of taking his own life. She is such an advocate for Elkin that she has written a character reference to Dave Smith requesting his reinstatement to the NRL.
Here is some of what she sent me:
"My son Jono was a huge NRL fan. A 29-year-old young man who – when not rebuilding his shattered life – used to look forward to a good match of footy. Last winter, however, the game lost some of its lustre. You see he could no longer spot his 'hero', Trent Elkin, on TV, running out to provide assistance to the players.
"Jono's recovery against all medical prognoses, from a very serious road accident – a story that would have had a very different ending, had not Trent Elkin played a significant part.
"I am extremely disappointed that I have had no response from Mr David Smith ... And I also believe it incredibly important to get the real story told to repair Trent's reputation. Life goes on for everyone else involved in this so-called sporting scandal ... ie. the Sharks coach and other staff are all back at work; and yet Trent is struggling to make ends meet because of this ridiculous mess – working day and night to support his young family and hang onto their house.
"It certainly doesn't reflect well on the NRL. Jono [and I] are in touch with him regularly. He drops over from time to time to cheer up his little mate (who hasn't been well this year ... in hospital two times with once more surgery to happen) or Jono phones or texts him whenever. And he (& his 2 adorable little boys & wonderfully supportive wife, Jane) are coming to Jono's 30th birthday.
"What I've wanted throughout this whole situation – for the person Trent Elkin truly is to be publicised.
"I want to see his good reputation restored, so he can go back to the profession he spent years building.
"Because, as they say: 'mud sticks' – and there's been too much mud thrown Trent's way. He's received no club support because the NRL told the Eels that they couldn't do anything to assist with his appeal ... yet they supported all the other staff involved.
"Trent has had to deal with the chairman making public comments on TV and radio about him and yet Damian Keogh has never even met Trent! Trent has done it completely alone with only his family to fall on. Trent's a pretty private guy – doesn't even know I'm doing this.
"But he is such a great guy – a salt-of-the-earth fella that'd have your back in any situation. Someone that is giving to the community and raises thousands for charity. In his typical style, he is trying to remain positive. What he is doing for work? He is still in the health and fitness industry, but working day and night.
"His wife, Jane, had no option but to resign from the NRL after 8.5 years so I know that their income is now less than half of what it was."
Ross won't back down
The debate between Souths and controversial sports high-performance specialist Mitch Ross is heating up – with Ross not backing down on his assertion that he is owed money by the club. Souths boss Shane Richardson tore shreds off Ross and his claims in a Peter FitzSimons column. There is no doubt Richardson is keen to have Ross not involved at the club – but, despite the pay dispute, Souths coach Michael Maguire is telling Ross he wants him involved because the players believed in what he did for them. This column has been provided video evidence of the dealings between Ross and Maguire where the now disputed deal is discussed. And this is with a time line that begins on June 11 – when Maguire, Ross, Anthony Mundine and others had dinner near Mundine's house. On June 12, at Souths' training facility, they talked about the exact price for Ross' services. They met in front of the finance manager – Ross shook hands with "Madge" and agreed on a $50,000 deal with a question mark still on the prospect of a bonus. That was to be decided when Ross got back to the US. At the meeting, Maguire said: "I really don't care what it cost, just make this work." The agreement for $50,000 with a bonus of $150,000 for winning the premiership was presented – Maguire crossed out the bonus section of $ 150k. A month later, the Rabbitohs said break down the payments month by month and present smaller invoices, then by month for what they used ... then itemise. "Basically we got stroked," Ross said. "After the premiership win, Madge said he would endorse the protocol in one week after, then two weeks after – then it just did not happen."
The Sharks players are very happy the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority drama is in the rear-view mirror – but, with ASADA struggling to make a case against Essendon, they must be wondering if they could have fought harder for their reputations. What will be interesting for them is the James Hird challenge to the validity of the entire investigation – if Hird is successful, there could be a spin-off for the Sharks.
There are two people who have borne the brunt for the Sharks ASADA scandal – sports scientist Stephen Dank and their high performance manager Trent Elkin.
The pair told the players the supplements they were using were not banned by ASADA – Elkin even tested them on himself as a way of assuring himself and gaining the trust of the players.
Elkin is banned and Dank will never work in sport again. Dank is now threatening to sue the NRL and chief executive Dave Smith.
Elkin is the person who the players seem most angry with – he was the trusted face in the whole mess. He vouched for and pushed the program. And he has been iced by the players for his poor advice.
This piece is not designed to generate sympathy for Elkin. I received an email from Cheryl Koenig, who wanted to tell us about a different side of Elkin. Cheryl was the NSW Woman of the Year in 2009 and she wrote a book about her son, Jono.
He was a bright and sporty 12-year-old when he was hit by a speeding car and tossed some 20 metres in the air, about 100m from their quiet suburban home in Menai.
He was not expected to live (in fact, died in his mum's arms on the road, then again in the ambulance), and the family was told to prepare for the worst many times as he clung to life on a ventilator in ICU for three weeks. The worst of his injuries was an "extremely severe traumatic brain injury". When he opened his eyes after about a month, he couldn't speak or move a muscle.
Elkin worked tirelessly with her son – improving his physical state and talking him out of thoughts of taking his own life. She is such an advocate for Elkin that she has written a character reference to Dave Smith requesting his reinstatement to the NRL.
Here is some of what she sent me:
"My son Jono was a huge NRL fan. A 29-year-old young man who – when not rebuilding his shattered life – used to look forward to a good match of footy. Last winter, however, the game lost some of its lustre. You see he could no longer spot his 'hero', Trent Elkin, on TV, running out to provide assistance to the players.
"Jono's recovery against all medical prognoses, from a very serious road accident – a story that would have had a very different ending, had not Trent Elkin played a significant part.
"I am extremely disappointed that I have had no response from Mr David Smith ... And I also believe it incredibly important to get the real story told to repair Trent's reputation. Life goes on for everyone else involved in this so-called sporting scandal ... ie. the Sharks coach and other staff are all back at work; and yet Trent is struggling to make ends meet because of this ridiculous mess – working day and night to support his young family and hang onto their house.
"It certainly doesn't reflect well on the NRL. Jono [and I] are in touch with him regularly. He drops over from time to time to cheer up his little mate (who hasn't been well this year ... in hospital two times with once more surgery to happen) or Jono phones or texts him whenever. And he (& his 2 adorable little boys & wonderfully supportive wife, Jane) are coming to Jono's 30th birthday.
"What I've wanted throughout this whole situation – for the person Trent Elkin truly is to be publicised.
"I want to see his good reputation restored, so he can go back to the profession he spent years building.
"Because, as they say: 'mud sticks' – and there's been too much mud thrown Trent's way. He's received no club support because the NRL told the Eels that they couldn't do anything to assist with his appeal ... yet they supported all the other staff involved.
"Trent has had to deal with the chairman making public comments on TV and radio about him and yet Damian Keogh has never even met Trent! Trent has done it completely alone with only his family to fall on. Trent's a pretty private guy – doesn't even know I'm doing this.
"But he is such a great guy – a salt-of-the-earth fella that'd have your back in any situation. Someone that is giving to the community and raises thousands for charity. In his typical style, he is trying to remain positive. What he is doing for work? He is still in the health and fitness industry, but working day and night.
"His wife, Jane, had no option but to resign from the NRL after 8.5 years so I know that their income is now less than half of what it was."
Ross won't back down
The debate between Souths and controversial sports high-performance specialist Mitch Ross is heating up – with Ross not backing down on his assertion that he is owed money by the club. Souths boss Shane Richardson tore shreds off Ross and his claims in a Peter FitzSimons column. There is no doubt Richardson is keen to have Ross not involved at the club – but, despite the pay dispute, Souths coach Michael Maguire is telling Ross he wants him involved because the players believed in what he did for them. This column has been provided video evidence of the dealings between Ross and Maguire where the now disputed deal is discussed. And this is with a time line that begins on June 11 – when Maguire, Ross, Anthony Mundine and others had dinner near Mundine's house. On June 12, at Souths' training facility, they talked about the exact price for Ross' services. They met in front of the finance manager – Ross shook hands with "Madge" and agreed on a $50,000 deal with a question mark still on the prospect of a bonus. That was to be decided when Ross got back to the US. At the meeting, Maguire said: "I really don't care what it cost, just make this work." The agreement for $50,000 with a bonus of $150,000 for winning the premiership was presented – Maguire crossed out the bonus section of $ 150k. A month later, the Rabbitohs said break down the payments month by month and present smaller invoices, then by month for what they used ... then itemise. "Basically we got stroked," Ross said. "After the premiership win, Madge said he would endorse the protocol in one week after, then two weeks after – then it just did not happen."
BlackWhiteBlue
Jaws
saw that article last night.
its a nice touch but helping a young bloke doesnt forgive or make right any other wrong. Im sure Elkin is a good bloke, im sure Flanno is a good bloke. Im sure Dank isnt an ******* either. But Elkin well and truly screwed up, and he is paying for that screw up. I dont think its fair to draw a comparison between Flanagan and Elkin's respective punishments, as it would seem, evidence given would have pinned Elkin and Dank as being more involved in the administering part. If Elkin injected a player and Flanagan didnt then that right there is the difference
its a nice touch but helping a young bloke doesnt forgive or make right any other wrong. Im sure Elkin is a good bloke, im sure Flanno is a good bloke. Im sure Dank isnt an ******* either. But Elkin well and truly screwed up, and he is paying for that screw up. I dont think its fair to draw a comparison between Flanagan and Elkin's respective punishments, as it would seem, evidence given would have pinned Elkin and Dank as being more involved in the administering part. If Elkin injected a player and Flanagan didnt then that right there is the difference
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Fair Call - As we said before , glad we can watch in the safety of our armchairs , ready to play footy , undistracted in 2015 and let everyone else play out the pantomime .
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exactly, and like i said, with how murky the evidence seemed, and with the now struggling to finalise anything against Essendon its making the Sharks look like the good guys. We took our punishments and thats all but over. Can Elkin get re-instated, dont care. Everyone else is. I would never want him back at the club (yes im a flanno supporter, but i guess the known fact is that Elkin had no escape as he was a participant). When we win our maiden, we will laugh about this scandal
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For general interest – as part of the Govts mid-year budget review, ASADA has been ceased, and its responsibilities appear to be consolidated back into the Department of Health?
You can read the report at the Finance Minister’s website.
You can read the report at the Finance Minister’s website.
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Yeah, cause they do basically the same thing... :take that
HaroldBishop
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Is this why the horse in the bar had a long face?
or why the seal went clubbing?
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I dont think this would happen.
Who are we going to sign? Snowden? Kelly? Douglas? Cordoba? Doubt it. Broderick Wright, you can come back and play for the Jets.
Who are we going to sign? Snowden? Kelly? Douglas? Cordoba? Doubt it. Broderick Wright, you can come back and play for the Jets.
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BWB and the ASADA thread - like a pig in ****
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