ASADA Saga Thread

[Sutty]

Agree, but someone needs to sue that prick into oblivion.

They might get to it after they sue the Sharks into oblivion.

 

[fitz]

They're onbviosly not aiming for the players.

But it appears they've just received what they've been after all along - admissions.

That's what I'm guessing this to be too.

Players now in adversarial position to Coaching Staff - you'd have to think Flanno's job (and others) is untenable.

Players launch action with assistance of RLPA against the Club itself... Mega $$$'s worth of payouts.

I suspect we might hear of a few player resignations too.

 

[Blue_Eyes84]

Does this mean the end of the club itself?

 

[sharked]

today is a good day. FINALLY we have some sort of resolution after nearly 2 lonnnng years ... lets hope this is the beginning of the end and another season won't be ruined !!

:hoping:hoping

 

[hamsy44]

That's what I'm guessing this to be too.

Players now in adversarial position to Coaching Staff - you'd have to think Flanno's job (and others) is untenable.

Players launch action with assistance of RLPA against the Club itself... Mega $$$'s worth of payouts.

I suspect we might hear of a few player resignations too.

Can't find a precedent on a banned player successfully suing their employer/coach because they were duped.

It would be interesting to know if there is one.

 

[fitz]

Does this mean the end of the club itself?

No.

 

[mattaus]

I really hope this is the end, and there are no further ramifications for the staff and club.

Here's hoping for a fresh start for the Sharks in 2015 with no dark cloud hanging over our heads.

 

[Blue_Eyes84]

No.

Good.

 

[fitz]

Can't find a precedent on a banned player successfully suing their employer/coach because they were duped.

It would be interesting to know if there is one.

RLPA seems to be hinting towards litigation here:

Statement from David Garnsey, RLPA CEO regarding development in the ASADA investigation.

ASADA has today issued show cause notices to a number of Players who were employed by the Cronulla Sutherland Sharks Football Club in 2011.

If Players wish to respond the ASADA legislation ordinarily gives them 10 days in which to do so, and the Players are now taking advice from their respective legal representatives as to how to proceed.

Players have maintained from the start of the investigation that they are not aware that they had been provided with any prohibited substances.

This investigation commenced 18 months ago and the NRL has already determined there was a serious deficiency in governance at the Club and that it failed to provide Players with a safe workplace.

The Players are now being compelled to explain why they should not be sanctioned and so are effectively being held to account for a failure by their employer to observe their duty of care obligations. The RLPA maintains this situation is inequitable and unreasonable.

This lengthy saga has seen the Players endure enormous public scrutiny and pressure and the RLPA will continue to work with the NRL in respect of the welfare of all Players involved in the Investigation.

The RLPA has no further comment to make at this stage.

http://www.rlpa.com.au/content/asada-investigation-developments

 

[slide rule]

Leaches

 

[CrankyShark]

That's what I'm guessing this to be too.

Players now in adversarial position to Coaching Staff - you'd have to think Flanno's job (and others) is untenable.

Players launch action with assistance of RLPA against the Club itself... Mega $$$'s worth of payouts.

I suspect we might hear of a few player resignations too.

I doubt they would get a great deal of $$$. They have missed three games. The punishment itself is nothing. The only way they can sue is for endangering safety.

 

[sharkstragic]

I doubt they would get a great deal of $$$. They have missed three games. The punishment itself is nothing. The only way they can sue is for endangering safety.

Can the players still be paid whilst banned? I reckon they may be able to sue for lost wages etc..

 

[CrankyShark]

Can the players still be paid whilst banned? I reckon they may be able to sue for lost wages etc..

That won't amount to much though. It is the safety angle and I suppose damage to reputation that is the problem. It would be pretty rich of them to sue IMO considering they are going to miss three weeks of football. Any Olympic athlete would get two years. They should be grateful to have got out of it unscathed.

 

[slide rule]

Can the players still be paid whilst banned? I reckon they may be able to sue for lost wages etc..

they aren't meant to get paid, but really they've already been paid for the backdated period, so???

Also, they are on salaries, so what happens going forward for 6 moths or so? Can you pay them their salaries at a higher weekly/monthly rate for to make up for their banned time?

 

[ABshark]

I reckon its going to come down to 'unsafe work environment' and endangering the players...

Which means that someone will have to try to establish that the peptides concerned are dangerous. Which I'm not sure they'll be able to do.

 

[ABshark]

PS: isn't damage to reputation capped quite low?

 

[slide rule]

I reckon its going to come down to 'unsafe work environment' and endangering the players...

Which means that someone will have to try to establish that the peptides concerned are dangerous. Which I'm not sure they'll be able to do.

Yep. And also they were supposedly ducking up into a corporate box to be injected with something kept in an esky, behind the back of the club doctor (or so it has been reported).

 

[Bundy Shark]

Changing the subject on the Sharks players & their bans, I wonder what Essendon players might get?

 

[sharkstragic]

Changing the subject on the Sharks players & their bans, I wonder what Essendon players might get?

They have been offered 6 months if they can apply substantial assistance

 

[hamsy44]

RLPA seems to be hinting towards litigation here:


http://www.rlpa.com.au/content/asada-investigation-developments

Without a doubt there will be players heading to court. I think (and hope) that it will be so murky as to who did what to who and who is responsible for it that it wont be successful.

The players have admitted guilt the substances were banned but they were by all reports never forced to take it.

They were definitely aware that the substances were not normal - one even queried (to the laughter of teammates) what "equine" meant.

The club (as in the Ltd company) never purchased any of these supplements (that has been reported).

I think (and again hope) there will more then enough doubt as the responsibility for the cases to not be successful.