HaroldBishop
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Wouldn't want a coach who can't cop it on the chin anyway.
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Wouldn't want a coach who can't cop it on the chin anyway.
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Not-So-Great White
Same. Never heard of him, but I’ll take a bloke who works under Bellamy before I take two Trent Barrets
HaroldBishop
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Would you take Stephen Kearney or Kevin Walters?
HaroldBishop
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Kearney was an assistant there for 5 years.
still not 11 :gal:
HaroldBishop
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Nope but my point was being an assistant under Bellamy doesn't guarantee success.
Also, O'Brien was an assistant there for 5 years as well. He was doing other things there before that.
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Bellamy could have had a pebble in his shoe for the last 8 weeks and I'd take that pebble as our new coach over Walters or Kearney.
Or Barrett, Ciraldo and Griffin.
Or Barrett, Ciraldo and Griffin.
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Over Barrett? Sure. Barrett strikes me as a coach that tries to be friends with everyone. That wanker on the roar reckons Morris is too nice, but I think the bigger push over between the two would be Barret.
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Barrett was a peaheart as a player and nothing has changed. He'd get his head flushed in the dunny at recess with our squad.
HaroldBishop
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If prefer the poo Proud Shark likes to clap with.
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I'm keen to see what Morris can do. He's played a ton of games in a ton of positions and he's smart and eager. I see him being the educated tactician. Being more analytical and getting good people in around him. Might take him a bit to learn the ropes man management wise but I'd take that 100 times over the ploder 'experienced' cliche coaches thrown around from club to club.
The more I think about it the more I think he's the right choice. See the results this year, if all is well and good in house and on the field then extend him for 2 years.
The more I think about it the more I think he's the right choice. See the results this year, if all is well and good in house and on the field then extend him for 2 years.
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Playing purely off the almost fact great players do not make great coaches and it's usually the mediocre player who made it off of hard work, determination and a love of the game over any real talent who make great coaches.
JMo was not highly talented, but managed to carve out a 300 game career. If we think off good coaches we think Bennett, Bellamy, Flanno, Robinson, Maguire - wiki has no info on Bennett but the others combined have 248 games, 148 to Bellamy alone with Flanno next on 78.
A list of 300 gamers:
JMo was not highly talented, but managed to carve out a 300 game career. If we think off good coaches we think Bennett, Bellamy, Flanno, Robinson, Maguire - wiki has no info on Bennett but the others combined have 248 games, 148 to Bellamy alone with Flanno next on 78.
A list of 300 gamers:
| Cameron Smith |
| Darren Lockyer |
| Terry Lamb |
| Steve Menzies |
| Cooper Cronk |
| Corey Parker |
| Chris Heighington |
| Brad Fittler |
| Cliff Lyons |
| Nathan Hindmarsh |
| Paul Gallen |
| Ryan Hoffman |
| Geoff Gerard |
| Andrew Ettingshausen |
| Luke Lewis |
| Johnathan Thurston |
| Billy Slater |
| Jason Croker |
| Hazem El Masri |
| Luke Priddis |
| Steve Price |
| Brent Kite |
| Paul Langmack |
| Ruben Wiki |
| Petero Civoniceva |
| John Sutton |
| Brett Kimmorley |
| Sam Thaiday |
| Anthony Watmough |
| Anthony Minichiello |
| Luke Ricketson |
| Simon Mannering |
| John Morris |
| Scott Prince JMo's career was nothing like most the blokes on that list. Could be the ultimate mix of average but experienced. You don't play 300 by accident. Sorry for the formatting at the end the list made things **** the gear and I dunno how to fix it. |
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Of the top coaches Bennett would have had the best playing career.
John Lang, Tim Sheens and Phil Gould were top players too. Sticky was too (depending on how you feel about him as a top coach). Chris Anderson was another one. Hasler was also an international. You also have Bozo.
Then there is the middle tier of guys who had good first grade careers but weren’t stars: Paul Green, Ivan Cleary, Brian Smith
... but then in addition to the guys you named who weren’t regular first graders you also have guys like Warren Ryan, Matt Elliott and Graham Murray
Ultimately I think the success of Bellamy, Flanagan and Robinson has over-exaggerated the “fringe players can be great coaches” thing. Over time I think there is a normal distribution of players who were stars, good players, or fringe players... which would pretty much be what you’d expect.
John Lang, Tim Sheens and Phil Gould were top players too. Sticky was too (depending on how you feel about him as a top coach). Chris Anderson was another one. Hasler was also an international. You also have Bozo.
Then there is the middle tier of guys who had good first grade careers but weren’t stars: Paul Green, Ivan Cleary, Brian Smith
... but then in addition to the guys you named who weren’t regular first graders you also have guys like Warren Ryan, Matt Elliott and Graham Murray
Ultimately I think the success of Bellamy, Flanagan and Robinson has over-exaggerated the “fringe players can be great coaches” thing. Over time I think there is a normal distribution of players who were stars, good players, or fringe players... which would pretty much be what you’d expect.
HaroldBishop
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Bozo is the only one out of that bunch that was a great player though which is what Cap said. I can't think of too many more great players that made good coaches.
Sticky was very good but there's mo way in hell he's a good coach. From memory he's made the finals once in his last 7 or 8 seasons.
Art Vandelay
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Sticky Finals
- 2016 Raiders (Prelim)
- 2008 Sharks (Prelim)
- 2004 Roosters (Runner Up)
- 2003 Roosters (Runner Up)
- 2002 Roosters (Premiers)
Weird he has never just come 8th and bowed out.
makes week 3 at a minimum or no where near
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Bob Fulton is head and shoulders the best player to be a good coach. Immortal. Won three premierships with manly as a player and two as a coach. made two other grand finals. no one is close
HaroldBishop
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Yep agree on Bozo, as much as I hate the prick.
Old mate Sticky hey, had a gun side with the Roosters, has done diddly since. How he's still an NRL coach is beyond me.
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Pretty much underachieved with that Roosters side, then sweet FA from there.
Inheritated Stewy Raper's Shark side then we went south.
Couldn't handle the heat at the Eels
Wasted good opportunities with those Raiders sides.
Surely he gets the arse if they don't play finals this season!
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