A Message For Wrist Slitters And Whiteants

[fitz]

Haven’t posted here for a while, but this seemed like a pretty good thread to drop my 2c on. (And yes, this only my lowly 2c worth…)

I think Iron Shark is right in what he is saying, but I do think that what he is describing only accounts for 1-2% of the fan base who have been certifiably over the top and out of their minds in the response to how the Club has played its hand.

But I do believe the rest of the fan base are within their rights to express frustration – and shouldn’t be deemed lesser fans than others for doing so.

As a former employee (yeah, hi, it’s me!) there were often times when I allowed (and needed) the negative feedback to drive me to better results. There is nothing shameful or wrong about calling reality, well, reality. Clubs know that. Players know that. If they don’t, they should. (Note: I actually think our players are very good there. They’ve been nothing but accountable – sometimes moreso than they’ve needed to be – for the way the season has unfolded) I hate using real-life atrocities in a comparison that involves something as relatively unimportant as sport, but pretending everything is okay when it isn’t is pretty much how the Nazi’s came to be and operate. (Just to reiterate, this is not a holocaust, but the idea of “ignorance" is absolutely applicable). Fans who act within this reality shouldn’t be attacked.

In the same vein, people should avoid labelling all fans who carry the flag (like Iron) as ignorant. In many cases, they’re acutely aware of what’s going on and wouldn’t deny it if asked. And seriously - if after a few days, you wake up with an inability to shake off the sting of a loss, then you probably need to get out and live more. #JustSaying

There are no good fans and bad fans. Just fans who react differently. A range of varying life's lessons should guarantee that. Keep splitting your wrists if it makes you feel involved in the Club. If the right people are in place, with the type of skin that you’ll need to get by, the only time you’re actually going to hurt the Club is when you withdraw your financial support of it (don’t do that!) irrespective of the song and dance you do in-between.

Love a good Godwin!

One lake, many mountains.

Up Up.

 

[oozy]

Love a good Godwin!

One lake, many mountains.

Up Up.

Nice find...-.. could one reasonably assume you had that in you're holster the whole time and was just holding out for the opportune time to elucidate the masses ?

personally, nah! you're a freak.

 

[CrazyMatt]

Love a good Godwin!

One lake, many mountains.

Up Up.

Holy ****, that's actually a thing!

 

[A.Snowden]

Love a good Godwin!

One lake, many mountains.

Up Up.

I believe you have posted that in here before if I recall correctly

 

[A.Snowden]

Anyway, typical IronShark post, and that's all I'll say on the matter.

 

[dier]

I believe you have posted that in here before if I recall correctly

Yes, more than once too.

 

[19ninety9]

Brilliant thread.

Here's my opinion, the footy is **** atm, the Shark are the bottom of that pile, can't even come close to scoring a try.

I find myself hoping for a disallowed try just to see a Sharky try and put the footy down over the line...

Absolutely DIRE.

 

[sharkiesboomboomboom]

I think people can whinge and bitch about the team/club as much as they want as long as they still get to the games (if possible) to cheer them on. The alternative is to rip up our memberships and make it even easier for the opposition to flog us. The team needs us ********s there, through thick and thin.

We've had a couple of reasonable years but we've been in this gloomy place many times before. We can and will keep supporting the mighty Sharks, cause we have no other choice really.

 

[stevie013]

ive gone past all the stages of frustration, anger, hurt, blame, denial...etc....etc

i just laugh now. this is a comedy and we are the headline act of the nrl. ill still be there at every game possible within my means cheering them on, or, laughing at the act that is the the cronulla sharks. we are that bad, its comical.

things will get better, eventually.

 

[HaroldBishop]

ive gone past all the stages of frustration, anger, hurt, blame, denial...etc....etc

i just laugh now. this is a comedy and we are the headline act of the nrl. ill still be there at every game possible within my means cheering them on, or, laughing at the act that is the the cronulla sharks. we are that bad, its comical.

things will get better, eventually.

Exactly how I feel.

 

[DruNkDazZ]

things will get better, eventually.

Exactly right. Geez, were any of you supporters in 2011 ?? We lost 8 straight (or so?)... Remember?

This is how football is, you win, you lose, you go terrible, you go amazing.

Just turn up at Remondis Stadium vs Manly & go nuts when we win.. yeah!!

 

[sharkstragic]

Exactly right. Geez, were any of you supporters in 2011 ?? We lost 8 straight (or so?)... Remember?

This is how football is, you win, you lose, you go terrible, you go amazing.

Just turn up at Remondis Stadium vs Manly & go nuts when we win.. yeah!!

Great post. Just wondering how other clubs would fare if you took out 12-13 players out of there lineups, and had all the injury issues we have had this year.
I'm pretty sure they would be the same position.

 

[SJTB]

Well said mate, was nice to come on and see this Iron Shark.

 

[HaroldBishop]

It may not be the intention, but these threads always come across to me as "I'm a better supporter than you because......................."

 

[snowman]

It may not be the intention, but these threads always come across to me as "I'm a better supporter than you because......................."

no, that was 100% his intension

 

[fizman]

IronShark, I need to clarify your comments regarding the NRL. I apologize in advance for bringing politics to the table, but the facts need to be adhered to.

When the previous Board found out about the ASADA situation, they went to the NRL and asked for assistance. The NRL offered the services of Bruno Cullen to investigate and review the Club on all levels. The NRL in exchange for full disclosure was willing to help and assist our Club. This is fact.

Our current Board told the NRL "No Thanks" we don't need your help, we know what we are doing. On that basis, the NRL have allowed our Club to manage our own affairs whether they be good, bad or ugly.

We cannot under any circumstances blame the NRL for our current predicament. Our Club called for help, was offered assistance, and then we said "No Thanks".

 

[CrankyShark]

I think its important to understand that there is a difference between whinging, letting off steam and being honest in your appraisal. I also think sharks fans need to lose the chip on their shoulder regarding the nrl - if they wanted us gone or relocated it would already be in progress. I think however if you are going to criticize the club become a member (if you are not already) and turn up and vote or better yet if you are in a position to turn the club around run for the board it would be good to get passion back at the top hopefully it would filter down

This is exactly right. Initially I thought the NRL would kill us off for sure. This would have happened under the previous administration. However, the NRL has been very supportive. I do think they are hedging their bets and may abandon us if the ASADA outcome is a total disaster. You can hardly blame them for that. All in all though, I suspect the ASADA damage will be contained and we are faced with several years of recovery.

 

[slide rule]

I hate the NRL. They give us the dog ****e end of the stick all the stick all the time. **** em.

 

[HaroldBishop]

I hate the NRL. They give us the dog ****e end of the stick all the stick all the time. **** em.

I would never have guessed that :glasses-cool:

 

[CrankyShark]

I hate the NRL. They give us the dog ****e end of the stick all the stick all the time. **** em.

You have a point re Monday night games although it does happen to one club each year. Personally, I'd like to see Monday night football put to bed. You can't exactly break out the beers on a Monday night.