2023 NRL General Discussion

[HaroldBishop]

Still there. Just not sticky anymore.

Do we still need it to be sticky?

All good, know where it is now

 

[Milkshark]

Sharks move into the heart of Cronulla by purchasing former Westpac building

The building will be converted into a new Sharks merchandise store and central office.

www.theleader.com.au

 

[Thresher]

Opening a merch shop in Brookvale would have more comedy value

 

[Sir Chadley]

What does everybody think about hip drop tackles?

Are they dangerous tackles and should they continue to be punished?

Or is it just simply bad luck for the attacker that they get injured?

I have to admit I haven’t yet seen either hip drop tackle tonight, but I have seen them in the past and thought sometimes they weren’t all that bad.

 

[bort]

What does everybody think about hip drop tackles?

Are they dangerous tackles and should they continue to be punished?

Or is it just simply bad luck for the attacker that they get injured?

I have to admit I haven’t yet seen either hip drop tackle tonight, but I have seen them in the past and thought sometimes they weren’t all that bad.

The ones on a stationary player where their weight then comes back over their leg seems to do a lot of damage

Some weight swinging around when tackling a moving player is more incidental

 

[bort]

Curtis Scott gunna be in some (on-field) heat for going to town on some bloke in a bush footy game.
Can’t see guy did much to him in video but Scott came out swinging

 

[MMsharks]

The ones on a stationary player where their weight then comes back over their leg seems to do a lot of damage

Some weight swinging around when tackling a moving player is more incidental

this makes sense
some are incidental

 

[Western Sharkie]

What does everybody think about hip drop tackles?

Are they dangerous tackles and should they continue to be punished?

Or is it just simply bad luck for the attacker that they get injured?

I have to admit I haven’t yet seen either hip drop tackle tonight, but I have seen them in the past and thought sometimes they weren’t all that bad.

Both soft penalties and sin bins

If a defender intentionally drops then yep, penalise it, sin bin it, whatever punishment is deemed acceptable but I think in both instances, momentum played a big part in the defender falling onto the legs (ie neither were deliberate) but swung around in the tackle and no injuries (not that that should dictate a penalty or not).

 

[MrDravid]

What does everybody think about hip drop tackles?

Are they dangerous tackles and should they continue to be punished?

Or is it just simply bad luck for the attacker that they get injured?

I have to admit I haven’t yet seen either hip drop tackle tonight, but I have seen them in the past and thought sometimes they weren’t all that bad.

Personally I think they need to be out of the game...

If the NRL are consistent, then I don't have a problem with "soft" sin binnings, but they'll do it for a couple of weeks then it'll all be forgotten

 

[HaroldBishop]

Man I wish we had Haas. I know some say JFH is the nest prop in the game but give me Haas any day.

 

[Sir Chadley]

Man I wish we had Haas. I know some say JFH is the nest prop in the game but give me Haas any day.

Agreed.

I know its a long way off but I watched Max Bradbury, the lad from Newcastle, play Flegg yesterday. He was powerful. Made heaps of metres, was difficult to tackle and could offload the ball. Not saying he is Haas but he impressed me.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Was initially disappointed we had the bye during Easter but now I'm thankful these useless ****ers can't ruin my 4 day weekend.

 

[Born&bred]

Was initially disappointed we had the bye during Easter but now I'm thankful these useless ****ers can't ruin my 4 day weekend.

Shouldn't call anyone useless - they might really be useless...

 

[Milkshark]

Sharks haven’t beaten roosters since 2017 in a normal round.

Hopefully they can turn that around.

 

[vicsharkfan]

Sharks haven’t beaten roosters since 2017 in a normal round.

Hopefully they can turn that around.

Yahhh

 

[Six Again]

Sharks haven’t beaten roosters since 2017 in a normal round.

Hopefully they can turn that around.

Thanks for cheering us up .

The ground announcer on Sunday told us Finucane hadn't lost a game to the Warriors & we know how that turned out so lets stay positive .

 

[Sparkles]

On the topic of how we're great a scoring tries but other teams shouldn't be so good against us is this interesting article:

The NRL's over and under achievers of the first month of 2023 by expected points - The Rugby League Eye Test

The first month the 2023 NRL season is complete, and we’re starting to get a picture of where teams are sitting performance wise. Some teams have had easier runs with the draw, and others harder. Other teams have had terrible luck with injury and others have had some balls bounce their way. And...

www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com

Also interesting is that the the avg points scored per game across the league so far this year is 21.24.
Our avg points scored = 27.6
Our avg points conceded = 23.4

The current top eight are scoring avg of 22.87 pts per game.

 

[Milkshark]

On the topic of how we're great a scoring tries but other teams shouldn't be so good against us is this interesting article:

The NRL's over and under achievers of the first month of 2023 by expected points - The Rugby League Eye Test

The first month the 2023 NRL season is complete, and we’re starting to get a picture of where teams are sitting performance wise. Some teams have had easier runs with the draw, and others harder. Other teams have had terrible luck with injury and others have had some balls bounce their way. And...

www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com

Also interesting is that the the avg points scored per game across the league so far this year is 21.24.
Our avg points scored = 27.6
Our avg points conceded = 23.4

The current top eight are scoring avg of 22.87 pts per game.

Good post, and this sums it up:

Which brings me to the other team in the “Incompetent” quadrant – Cronulla. We saw before they’re allowing nearly 13% more points than expected this season, they’re sixth worst in the NRL expected points conceded signifying that why they’re susceptible to the type of comeback the allowed to the Warriors on Sunday.

We established before that they’re one of the best in the competition in terms of scoring efficiency, but allowing not only the points they have but also the field position isn’t a sustainable foundation.

South Sydney (22.1) and North Queensland (22.0) allow more expected points per game than the Sharks, but both of them concede fewer than that number per game. The Sharks meanwhile are conceding 23.4 per game, 13% higher than the 20.9 an average team would be expected to allow given the same opponent possession. It’s something the Sharks will need to work on if they want to follow up on last years successes.

 

[Sparkles]

Good post, and this sums it up:

Which brings me to the other team in the “Incompetent” quadrant – Cronulla. We saw before they’re allowing nearly 13% more points than expected this season, they’re sixth worst in the NRL expected points conceded signifying that why they’re susceptible to the type of comeback the allowed to the Warriors on Sunday.

We established before that they’re one of the best in the competition in terms of scoring efficiency, but allowing not only the points they have but also the field position isn’t a sustainable foundation.

South Sydney (22.1) and North Queensland (22.0) allow more expected points per game than the Sharks, but both of them concede fewer than that number per game. The Sharks meanwhile are conceding 23.4 per game, 13% higher than the 20.9 an average team would be expected to allow given the same opponent possession. It’s something the Sharks will need to work on if they want to follow up on last years successes.

We saw how giving up field position killed us in the Warriors game. We just can't make those kinds of mistakes

 

[snowman]

Man I wish we had Haas. I know some say JFH is the nest prop in the game but give me Haas any day.

best forward in the game by a mile