2023 NRL General Discussion

[Gal The Goat]

Simon Dwyer anyone?

Perfect example. In a sling for the rest of his life and may need future surgeries. Under the current agreement he has nothing to help him. That’s a work place injury that any other work cover would cover for life.

I do think the tIgers have acted in a lot of good faith to him but plenty of low profile won’t be as lucky.

 

[bort]

I think that’s what they are more talking about though aren’t they? Genuine injuries that they succumb to from the game.

I know of small time players that had surgery and rehab but then needed more surgery. By then 12 months would have been over.

They used Booth recent ACL and no new contract for example. Fifitas 4 recent injuries for example. Beau Ryan’s neck injury which forced him into retirement for example. I completely understand if those guys need touch up surgeries straight after that 12 months then who pays for it?

I would say I do think if a surgeon could report to nrl something like 'surgery 12 months ago appears to have not recovered to extent we were aiming for, an extra surgery is required for this same issue' there should be capacity for NRL to go okay yep that's the same injury we agree to cover and surgeon has backed it is related to original injury/surgery
So in that case it seems right it would be okayed.

Seems like everyone agrees the timeframe is too short and perhaps the system is too rigid but that it can't feasibly be a 10 or more year thing?

 

[Gal The Goat]

I would say I do think if a surgeon could report to nrl something like 'surgery 12 months ago appears to have not recovered to extent we were aiming for, an extra surgery is required for this same issue' there should be capacity for NRL to go okay yep that's the same injury we agree to cover and surgeon has backed it is related to original injury/surgery
So in that case it seems right it would be okayed.

Seems like everyone agrees the timeframe is too short and perhaps the system is too rigid but that it can't feasibly be a 10 or more year thing?

Yep definitely needs to have some sort of limitations like that.

I’m definitely behind players injuries getting looked after post career but it can’t become a rort where players hurt themselves years later at home or playing touch football and think they can claim it

 

[Western Sharkie]

Take out your own private health insurance like the rest of us who know we will need our bodies fixed.

How far back do they want to go? 25 years when I was playing JR reps and injuries stopped my career, ffs it’s just part of life.

I get it but sometimes athletes do get excluded from things like health funds or from making certain claims, just like some high risk professions are excluded from Life or disability insurances due to the nature of their work.

So it’s not as easy as saying “just get your own health insurance” (but would be good if it was).

Insurers either won’t insure or make the premiums unbelievably high that it is not affordable.

I think the idea of 1-2% of players wages (or a sliding scale eg 1% from minimum wages players, 1.25% for mid range 1.5% from higher end and 2% for the $8-900+ or something like that) go towards a RLPA run health fund might work.

 

[Born&bred]

Take out your own private health insurance like the rest of us who know we will need our bodies fixed.

How far back do they want to go? 25 years when I was playing JR reps and injuries stopped my career, ffs it’s just part of life.

Difference is we get workers comp if we're injured on the job - they don't

 

[Born&bred]

I’m not talking about injuries, that should be done when when playing or at the end of your career, you can’t go back and clam workers comp on bad knees or back from wear and tear 10 years after leaving the job

You actually can in most occupations

 

[bort]

DT list of most under pressure players at each club

SHARKS

Kade Dykes

The young fullback/five-eighth/centre earned a taste of NRL in 2022 with two appearances, including his first NRL try. He’ll benefit greatly from another NRL pre-season and providing he stays healthy, he’ll be putting pressure on fullback Will Kennedy each week.

Aspiring fullback Kade Dykes got a taste of first grade football in 2022, and will look to earn a regular spot in 2023.

Jesse Colquhoun

The Wollongong forward is making waves with his elite-level workrate and willingness to get down and dirty.

Good judges in the Shire have described him as a similar player to Roosters mainstay Nat Butcher. Colquhoun played three games off the bench in 2022, but without Andrew Fifita and Aiden Tolman in his path, expect the 20-year-old to feature heavily in 2023.

– David Riccio

Squad must be in a good spot if the rookies not expected in starting 17 are the most under pressure
They obviously haven’t seen our whipping boy list…

 

[HaroldBishop]

DT list of most under pressure players at each club

SHARKS

Kade Dykes

The young fullback/five-eighth/centre earned a taste of NRL in 2022 with two appearances, including his first NRL try. He’ll benefit greatly from another NRL pre-season and providing he stays healthy, he’ll be putting pressure on fullback Will Kennedy each week.

Aspiring fullback Kade Dykes got a taste of first grade football in 2022, and will look to earn a regular spot in 2023.

Jesse Colquhoun

The Wollongong forward is making waves with his elite-level workrate and willingness to get down and dirty.

Good judges in the Shire have described him as a similar player to Roosters mainstay Nat Butcher. Colquhoun played three games off the bench in 2022, but without Andrew Fifita and Aiden Tolman in his path, expect the 20-year-old to feature heavily in 2023.

– David Riccio

Squad must be in a good spot if the rookies not expected in starting 17 are the most under pressure
They obviously haven’t seen our whipping boy list…

Yeah that's a really odd take on under pressure. Weird.

 

[Super Impose]

Yeah that's a really odd take on under pressure. Weird.

Yeah - so it’s Will that’s under pressure really ..

 

[Blair]

It’s Riccio - the club probably told him to put those two (for whatever reason)

 

[Sutty]

Those two guys have got to be close to the least under pressure players in our squad. Keep it real Riccio.

Going to be real cool to see Colquhoun and Hazelton in the trials again.

 

[Deleted member 2543]

Who were the other clubs' "Under Pressure" players? Maybe the theme was actually "the guys putting the top guys under pressure".

Nat Butcher is an odd comparison for Jesse Cooklejorn. Maybe they mean the motor. They are not the same style of player at all imo.

 

[Sevshark]

DT list of most under pressure players at each club

SHARKS

Kade Dykes

The young fullback/five-eighth/centre earned a taste of NRL in 2022 with two appearances, including his first NRL try. He’ll benefit greatly from another NRL pre-season and providing he stays healthy, he’ll be putting pressure on fullback Will Kennedy each week.

Aspiring fullback Kade Dykes got a taste of first grade football in 2022, and will look to earn a regular spot in 2023.

Jesse Colquhoun

The Wollongong forward is making waves with his elite-level workrate and willingness to get down and dirty.

Good judges in the Shire have described him as a similar player to Roosters mainstay Nat Butcher. Colquhoun played three games off the bench in 2022, but without Andrew Fifita and Aiden Tolman in his path, expect the 20-year-old to feature heavily in 2023.

– David Riccio

Squad must be in a good spot if the rookies not expected in starting 17 are the most under pressure
They obviously haven’t seen our whipping boy list…

That's literally the rookies to watch article from a week ago.

 

[HaroldBishop]

That's literally the rookies to watch article from a week ago.

That would make far more sense.

 

[bort]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_MRE170_a_RED&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fsport%2Fnrl%2Fnrl-2023-the-players-under-pressure-at-every-club-to-stand-up-this-season%2Fnews-story%2F3944ca981ffcfaabd27256c3c417726b&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&BT=sport

Some other examples
Kenny @ Panthers
Savage @ Raiders
Whole squad @ Dolphins

 

[Sparkles]

That's literally the rookies to watch article from a week ago.

And people don't want the AI robots to take over...

 

[Capital_Shark]

Jesse Cooklejorn

 

[stormshark]

Nat Butcher, massively overrated.

 

[MrDravid]

And people don't want the AI robots to take over...

AI still has a bit to learn:

Which Cronulla Sharks NRL players are under most pressure ahead of the 2023 NRL season?

The most pressure is currently on star half backs Shaun Johnson and Chad Townsend. They are both expected to lead the team from the halves and help take Cronulla back to the top of the NRL ladder. Other players under pressure include fullbacks Matt Moylan and Will Kennedy, wingers Sione Katoa and Ronaldo Mulitalo, prop forwards Andrew Fifita and Aaron Woods, locks Scott Sorensen, Wade Graham and Tonie Carroll, five-eighth Matt Ikuvalu and halves pairing Josh Schuster and Braydon Trindall.

EDIT: Although to be fair the default models' training data cuts off in 2021, so they may not have knowledge of current events.

 

[HaroldBishop]

AI still has a bit to learn:

Which Cronulla Sharks NRL players are under most pressure ahead of the 2023 NRL season?

The most pressure is currently on star half backs Shaun Johnson and Chad Townsend. They are both expected to lead the team from the halves and help take Cronulla back to the top of the NRL ladder. Other players under pressure include fullbacks Matt Moylan and Will Kennedy, wingers Sione Katoa and Ronaldo Mulitalo, prop forwards Andrew Fifita and Aaron Woods, locks Scott Sorensen, Wade Graham and Tonie Carroll, five-eighth Matt Ikuvalu and halves pairing Josh Schuster and Braydon Trindall.

EDIT: Although to be fair the default models' training data cuts off in 2021, so they may not have knowledge of current events.

Is the biggest signing in our history going around again next year for the Warriors? Does he still have the required amount of insta followers?