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Whats the percentage for kickers with 44 attempts? (compare apples with apples).
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Number 3 for 44+
Only behind lil Paps and Cleary (Croker had 42 and Chad 41)
Exactly 44, amazingly, he is first and only
 
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I think we have become so accustomed to goal kickers slotting their kicks over from the sideline and all around the park for that matter our expectations on non elite goal kickers maybe is a tad high. We feel as though 80% + is the new norm and not hitting those marks means you are terrible.

I think though we can accept they are going to miss some tough kicks or narrow angles, especially if the conditions are poor

What has been disappointing though in seasons past is established goal kickers missing ones they shouldn't be missing and going 1/4 in tight games where a single conversion would have got us over the line but we just couldn't get it done. Our defense was rarely good enough to get us home we needed every single point on offer to win.

It's said that one of the toughest kicks isn't necessarily the one from the side line but the one that is about halfway between the sticks and the sideline. Not sure how many trys we scored in that area but I recall us missing goal kicks from all over the park

I reckon if you score under the sticks it should just essentially be deemed a "bonus" zone and you are awarded an instant 6 points. Taking 3 minutes to line up a kick from right in front is a total waste of game time, they aren't going to miss it. Yes players have missed these gimme kicks on occasion but it's very rare.

Even Gallen can slot them from there

I doubt there is more than 1 miss from in front per season

Between Hynes and Trindall I think we should be ok if they can be kicking in the high 70% range as I expect all other areas of our game to have improved under Fitz
 

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I think we have become so accustomed to goal kickers slotting their kicks over from the sideline and all around the park for that matter our expectations on non elite goal kickers maybe is a tad high. We feel as though 80% + is the new norm and not hitting those marks means you are terrible.

I think though we can accept they are going to miss some tough kicks or narrow angles, especially if the conditions are poor

What has been disappointing though in seasons past is established goal kickers missing ones they shouldn't be missing and going 1/4 in tight games where a single conversion would have got us over the line but we just couldn't get it done. Our defense was rarely good enough to get us home we needed every single point on offer to win.

It's said that one of the toughest kicks isn't necessarily the one from the side line but the one that is about halfway between the sticks and the sideline. Not sure how many trys we scored in that area but I recall us missing goal kicks from all over the park

I reckon if you score under the sticks it should just essentially be deemed a "bonus" zone and you are awarded an instant 6 points. Taking 3 minutes to line up a kick from right in front is a total waste of game time, they aren't going to miss it. Yes players have missed these gimme kicks on occasion but it's very rare.

Even Gallen can slot them from there

I doubt there is more than 1 miss from in front per season

Between Hynes and Trindall I think we should be ok if they can be kicking in the high 70% range as I expect all other areas of our game to have improved under Fitz
That's a good point, does waste a lot of time. Probably could just call it 6 and only lose the novelty kicks from Gallen and co
Depending on score and time of game both teams may try and hurry or slow this break in play for more or less rest.

We keep finishing around 8-9 recently with a lot of close games, the kicks feel very important.
If you're a top 4 side you score enough more tries (and defend enough more tries) that an average kicker doesn't standout as bad.
Even if they only kick 2 from 5 on a day you probably still won 24-12
 
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I think we have become so accustomed to goal kickers slotting their kicks over from the sideline and all around the park for that matter our expectations on non elite goal kickers maybe is a tad high. We feel as though 80% + is the new norm and not hitting those marks means you are terrible.

I think though we can accept they are going to miss some tough kicks or narrow angles, especially if the conditions are poor

What has been disappointing though in seasons past is established goal kickers missing ones they shouldn't be missing and going 1/4 in tight games where a single conversion would have got us over the line but we just couldn't get it done. Our defense was rarely good enough to get us home we needed every single point on offer to win.

It's said that one of the toughest kicks isn't necessarily the one from the side line but the one that is about halfway between the sticks and the sideline. Not sure how many trys we scored in that area but I recall us missing goal kicks from all over the park

I reckon if you score under the sticks it should just essentially be deemed a "bonus" zone and you are awarded an instant 6 points. Taking 3 minutes to line up a kick from right in front is a total waste of game time, they aren't going to miss it. Yes players have missed these gimme kicks on occasion but it's very rare.

Even Gallen can slot them from there

I doubt there is more than 1 miss from in front per season

Between Hynes and Trindall I think we should be ok if they can be kicking in the high 70% range as I expect all other areas of our game to have improved under Fitz
I love this too Gards. Might see what Heaps, Tunksie and Pappy think on Talkin Sport this afternoon.
 
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Not a fan, leave it in place.

There are better ways to cut out wasted time like reducing the amount of time it takes the video ref to make a decision, it's ridiculous.
 

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Personally I wouldn't mind if they scrapped goal kicking entirely. It's a team sport – should 1/3 of the points really come from one guy's boot?
 
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I'd rather keep the kicks from in front. Rubs salt in the wounds of the opposition.

If you're having a bad day with the boot, a kick from in front can get you back in the swing of things too.
 

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I’ll only support this rule change if it is introduced mid-season, without a single piece of supporting research, every commentator spends the next year talking about how good it is, and then we make a second similar random rule change the following season.

No kicks is actually great in juniors and/or school footy imo. It’s so painful watching a kid spend 3 minutes to take a kick in a game with 15-20 minute halves.

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Jokes aside - this would probably have a bigger impact on “ball in play” time than anything the NRL has tried fiddling with over the last few years. The majority of the extra ball in play during 2020 and early 2021 wasn’t because the game is “faster”. It was because there were way less penalties in good field position - and therefore less opportunities for teams to take the 2.
 
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Not a fan, leave it in place.

There are better ways to cut out wasted time like reducing the amount of time it takes the video ref to make a decision, it's ridiculous.

At least the game clock is stopped for the vid ref though. it keeps ticking away while goal kickers line up their shots, at the fans and trailing teams expense. wastes like 2-3 or so mins of game time and in high scoring games that really adds up and means there is far less actual footy being played that fans have paid for and if a team is trailing with a few mins in the game to go it's essentially game over for them by the time the ball is back in play instead of having an exciting finish when they might get another attacking set or 2.

It's also really boring watching a kicker stand around and setup, especially for one right in front. get on with the game

The players are paid enough, fit enough and looked after well enough welfare wise to manage the extra game time of actual footy

Personally I wouldn't mind if they scrapped goal kicking entirely. It's a team sport – should 1/3 of the points really come from one guy's boot?

I'm happy to keep goal kicking in, it's tradition and helps break dead locks in tight games. You are rewarded for scoring a try towards the middle with an easier goal conversion kick. I simple don't like how much game time it wastes.

Simply stop the clock as soon as a try is scored and don't restart the clock until play restarts from the kick off. Otherwise put in an aggressive 60 second shot clock or something. Don't kick it by then too bad you forfeit your chance.

I’ll only support this rule change if it is introduced mid-season, without a single piece of supporting research, every commentator spends the next year talking about how good it is, and then we make a second similar random rule change the following season.

Someones been doing some light bed time reading of NRL Protocols again

Is Gards saying he doesn't like it enough evidence to have it over turned?
 
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At least the game clock is stopped for the vid ref though. it keeps ticking away while goal kickers line up their shots, at the fans and trailing teams expense. wastes like 2-3 or so mins of game time and in high scoring games that really adds up and means there is far less actual footy being played that fans have paid for and if a team is trailing with a few mins in the game to go it's essentially game over for them by the time the ball is back in play instead of having an exciting finish when they might get another attacking set or 2.

It's also really boring watching a kicker stand around and setup, especially for one right in front. get on with the game

The players are paid enough, fit enough and looked after well enough welfare wise to manage the extra game time of actual footy
Well stop the clock for goalkicks if that's what you're worried about. It's part of the fabric of the game, leave it alone.
 

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Well stop the clock for goalkicks if that's what you're worried about. It's part of the fabric of the game, leave it alone.
You mean like contested scrums, cornerposts, and kicking over the sideline to give your forwards a rest?

The don’t give a toss about the fabric of the game mate. They care about what makes it look better on TV.
 

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Nothing better than opposing team missing a sitter .;)
 
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