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Not sure about next year but they can't enter Shark park for preseason, atleast till Dec 1st.

They maybe just won't be able to play in Melbourne, NZ maybe QLD depending on what that regions policy is on vaccinated players.
I hope we don't have to pay them for the games they miss. **** them.
 

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Isn't V'landys' latest stance that players won't need to be vaccinated? And that clubs shouldn't sack players who don't want to?
 

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Isn't V'landys' latest stance that players won't need to be vaccinated? And that clubs shouldn't sack players who don't want to?
Who knows, things seem to change pretty quick.

The Government is now saying they might allow unvaccinated tennis players in for the Open.

**** that.
 

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Isn't V'landys' latest stance that players won't need to be vaccinated? And that clubs shouldn't sack players who don't want to?
Think he is mostly just trying to keep his hands clean of the mess by not forcing a mandate while many of the clubs seem to be doing a good job internally.
Once he has a better idea how diff state/country policies will be affected by vax/non-vax he will get more pressure on him to do something about the unvaxxed

Cheese and NAS will be an interesting issue for Storm if it is true they won't get jabbed and then won't be allowed to play in Melbourne.

Can't be easy for clubs and NRL to deal with, just recently saw a guy on facebook who used to play league (not professionally) arguing he shouldn't be forced to wear masks because if they don't work it is no difference, if they do work then everyone else already has one so why should he need to. How is he "thinking" this would work? McGowan to declare everyone in WA has to wear a mask except this one random mid 40s permanent resident?
 

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Who knows, things seem to change pretty quick.

The Government is now saying they might allow unvaccinated tennis players in for the Open.

**** that.
C'mon... it was our best chance of keeping Djokovic out of the country
 

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Lazy forwards ?

Surprised to read we had the oldest team*.
Not surprised we used the least players but it was more lack of options than good injury luck... 74% of players may have played 11 games or more but we had big $ out for big stretches.
*not using more kids is where we end up with the oldest team I assume

In regards to 'lazy forwards' not sure how Jacks 7 lines up but other than that numbers very low besides, obviously, 12 from Woods.
We all know he is good for a shocking lazy effort pretty much every second game well there it is as a stat. Doesn't affect that this year he was one of our most important forwards for the tackles he did make and meters he made as we didn't really have anyone who could replace him.
Look no further than that number when it comes to why he isn't being retained though.
 

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Who knows, things seem to change pretty quick.

The Government is now saying they might allow unvaccinated tennis players in for the Open.

**** that.
Mate, hate to break it to you, but each and everyone of us is going to catch COVID at some point. I don't see the point in not allowing them. Most people who have actually had the virus will end up with better long term immunity than any vaccine and should not be part of the mandates. You can also catch COVID from people who are vaccinated.
 

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Mate, hate to break it to you, but each and everyone of us is going to catch COVID at some point. I don't see the point in not allowing them. Most people who have actually had the virus will end up with better long term immunity than any vaccine and should not be part of the mandates. You can also catch COVID from people who are vaccinated.
i cant see how that part is true being better off long term

we have a triathlete in our football team who used to run 40km for fun, he cant even walk a set of stairs without feeling like he is going to collapse

you can also catch the flu off someone with a vaccine, vaccines dont prevent catching or passing on, they help fight and stop the damage
 

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i cant see how that part is true being better off long term

we have a triathlete in our football team who used to run 40km for fun, he cant even walk a set of stairs without feeling like he is going to collapse

you can also catch the flu off someone with a vaccine, vaccines dont prevent catching or passing on, they help fight and stop the damage
They also reduce the likelihood of spread, you can still catch it off someone who has been vaccinated but they are both less likely to get it and then less likely to spread it. He did say better long term immunity though, not that they'd be better off long term (I'm not sure if having had it gives you better immunity than vax or not).

Regarding your triathlete I know people who have had similar, not that fit as a base but fit enough and healthy, spent around a month sleeping on the couches downstairs because going upstairs to their bedroom was too hard.
 
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Everyone unvaccinated = legs play

Everyone vaccinated = sorry no unvaxxed

Makes sense
 

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i cant see how that part is true being better off long term

we have a triathlete in our football team who used to run 40km for fun, he cant even walk a set of stairs without feeling like he is going to collapse

you can also catch the flu off someone with a vaccine, vaccines dont prevent catching or passing on, they help fight and stop the damage
"Better long term immunity" was what I said, not that you are better off for catching it. The The russian flu pandemic from 1989-1891 is being compared as being similar and actually the virus still circulates today, but it has almost no effect on most people now. You will have a huge range of experiences of people with COVID-19 and working in Melbourne I have had a mix of colleagues and clients had COVID-19 with some recovering quickly without much fuss and others having more serious symptoms for a lot longer. There is actually some fairly good evidence now that immunity after exposure is quite long lasting. My cousin in the US is an immunologist and has written some papers on it.

I hope your mate gets better soon and I hope everyone when they are exposed to COVID recover well.
 

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Everyone unvaccinated = legs play

Everyone vaccinated = sorry no unvaxxed

Makes sense
not really a fair representation of the circumstances though is it

Vaccine still being rolled out = legs play under (at times, very strict) conditions

Everyone vaccinated = need everyone vaccinated to avoid conditions so sorry no unvaxxed
 

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(I'm not sure if having had it gives you better immunity than vax or not).
AFAIK, normally, getting the disease and surviving it should give you better antibodies and therefore immunity better than any vaccine.

Vaccine, in the traiditional sense, is used so your body can fight off a "weak"virus and develop the antibodies and be ready for it when or if the time comes. Of course, this is true for traditional vaccines. Pfizer's tech is quite different.
 
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Lazy forwards ?

Cronulla used the least amount of players in the Telstra Premiership with 27 - a remarkable stat considering the club boasts the oldest and most experienced team in the competition with an average age of 26.7.

This surprised me!
 
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