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Cool. As long as it's negotiated properly, fine.
Players come and go. He'll be forgotten about within a week.
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Cool. As long as it's negotiated properly, fine.
Players come and go. He'll be forgotten about within a week.
Bundy Shark
Jaws
I can appreciate what has been said in earlier posts but I just cant cop a contract not being honoured, both ways as well, club wanting to offload a player before contract is up plus a player wanting out once he has agreed to something.
I can let it go providing both parties agree but if its only one way it pee's me off.
I can let it go providing both parties agree but if its only one way it pee's me off.
sharks2010
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yeah I agree with this. Can't blame a bloke for wanting as much money as possible but not when it come to breaking a contract
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On the subject of Fifita, I would be very surprised if he is not being paid his worth, ie. I don't think he is in Radrada or SBW's shoes, though he would obviously like to be, as would the majority of players (who doesn't want to be worth a small fortune playing rugby elsewhere).
With the exception of Brad Thorn, when was the last time a league forward hit the big time in rugby in the forwards? NZ were playing the Welsh during the Sharks game on the weekend and the Kiwis in the pub were splitting their time between the games. I had a sneaky peak at the union myself. Most of the forwards looked half as big as Fifita again and more to the point, like they trained at McDonalds.
Playing rugby when you were 16 and 17 isn't going to prepare you for line outs and contested scrums with those monsters. Fifita is a league player not a union player and he isn't going to be offered the big money overseas IMO.
With the exception of Brad Thorn, when was the last time a league forward hit the big time in rugby in the forwards? NZ were playing the Welsh during the Sharks game on the weekend and the Kiwis in the pub were splitting their time between the games. I had a sneaky peak at the union myself. Most of the forwards looked half as big as Fifita again and more to the point, like they trained at McDonalds.
Playing rugby when you were 16 and 17 isn't going to prepare you for line outs and contested scrums with those monsters. Fifita is a league player not a union player and he isn't going to be offered the big money overseas IMO.
The problem with players chasing money is that the system is broke. Players have every right to make life decisions and pack up and leave.
But the NRL has shot it self in the foot time and time again and left clubs with the mess, hence fans and the media get on the players backs for doing something perfectly within their right, currently.
- With no transfer Fees, clubs will always be the ones punished.
- There's no legally binding contracts, NRL contracts are an absolute joke. Players, should they want to leave and break contract, should feel the financial ramifications of doing so. Like in football (soccer), if they really want to break contract and have no one ready to stump up the transfer fee, they need to pay out the rest of their contract. That will make them think twice.
- No compensation fees. In every other professional code, there is almost always a compensation fee for players under a certain age who have been grown at the club.
All these things are because the NRL are weak. Players dictate terms and the NRL lets them.
But the NRL has shot it self in the foot time and time again and left clubs with the mess, hence fans and the media get on the players backs for doing something perfectly within their right, currently.
- With no transfer Fees, clubs will always be the ones punished.
- There's no legally binding contracts, NRL contracts are an absolute joke. Players, should they want to leave and break contract, should feel the financial ramifications of doing so. Like in football (soccer), if they really want to break contract and have no one ready to stump up the transfer fee, they need to pay out the rest of their contract. That will make them think twice.
- No compensation fees. In every other professional code, there is almost always a compensation fee for players under a certain age who have been grown at the club.
All these things are because the NRL are weak. Players dictate terms and the NRL lets them.
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Mr Wright
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Especially on the national scene with a lack of a barnstorming #8 in the country.
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Fifita could probably play any position for the Wallabies.
HaroldBishop
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Not quite up there with Matt Dunning in the athletic stakes.
His kicking game would be his main attribute
Bundy Shark
Jaws
Its just hit me, Fifs has a crap play the ball cause he's come up through the union ranks where there is no play the ball!
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Fifita would have to do serious graft at lower money to make it in union making it less attractive. Radrada and SBW were offered the big bucks because they are expect to perform immediately (it is easier on the wing or in centres).
So whats the fee for Hayne jumping ship for a deal in NFL? Or for Semi say leaving for Japanese rugby?
Or D.Fifita going to Super League?
And even with mid season NRL moves. How amateur is it that players become on 2 pay rosters still. Its a joke of a system.
Its already an NRL player mindset that they can almost certainly get out of any contract. All because the NRL plays second fiddle to the "elite".
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In all of those instances the clubs granted a release.
Hayne was granted a release by Parramatta. At the time it was reported that there were conditions associated with that release. For example, Parramatta had first rights to him if he were to return to the NRL. That would be difficult now given their cap position though. It's highly unlikely that an NFL club would have payed a transfer for him. They wouldn't bother taking a risk on such a highly paid person with no track record in the sport. So in that case it's a moot point. Parramatta weighed up the situation and decided to go in a different direction, ie signing Foran etc.
D Fifita was granted a release by the club. They didn't have to do it. Presumably the club thought that they could get another signing before June 30 or they could use his salary in some other way. So it's mutually beneficial.
Last year Mick Gordon was refused a release by Cronulla to join Parramatta.
Just because fees haven't been paid, doesn't mean that they can't be. It was reported that Bath paid a transfer for Burgess and I think that there was a fee (eventually) paid by the European Rugby Club for Sonny Bill after he initially broke his contract. There was some settlement reached at least, as the Bulldogs were pursuing legal action.
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I agree with you completely but his timing of saying this isn't that great.
sharks2010
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Remember when bwb wanted to terminate this guy's contract. ****ing lololololol
vicsharkfan
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Jeez he is the catalyst for all marching up the field, ran a lot straighter tonight.