A Reminder...

sharks2010 said:

mate I think you're a good poster and I respect your opinions but there really is no need to go to the club about the forum. It has nothing to do with them just like all the circle jerk Facebook groups out there.

Fitz would have probably let you back anyway. Hell he has let me back twice now when he didn't have to. And I'm the last person he wants on this forum

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I waited several days for him to reverse the ban. It was clear to me that he had no intention of reversing it.

he banned mick for a month

egg said:

Hey Fitzy ,
I know your passionate about our great Club and This Fantastic Forum that you helped set up and in your view has deteriorated .
BUT , don't you think you should lead by example . Rather then revert to the very behavior you find unsavory ?

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This.

Cranky, if you don't mind me asking do you identify as transgender?

CrankyShark said:

I certainly didn't like doing it, but my hand was forced.

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No it wasn't - that's the point.

Born&bred said:

No it wasn't - that's the point.

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Fitz was mocking and ridiculing Thresher for genuinely asking if he was suicidal. This came off the back of a major issue with a very frequent poster only a short time ago.

I am not transgender, but I do suffer from major depression and the way his behaved pushed me into telling him off. He crossed the line in every way.

I didn't ask whether Fitz was suicidal, I just asked if he was ok and said I was worried about him.

CrankyShark said:

Fitz was mocking and ridiculing Thresher for genuinely asking if he was suicidal. This came off the back of a major issue with a very frequent poster only a short time ago.

I am not transgender, but I do suffer from major depression and the way his behaved pushed me into telling him off. He crossed the line in every way.

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This is simply untrue.

I don't know what sort of resolution you're after with all of this.

There does seem to be a whole lot of playing victim and attention seeking though.

What do you want?

Thresher Shark said:

I didn't ask whether Fitz was suicidal, I just asked if he was ok and said I was worried about him.

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I took it to be asking him indirectly. And that is what it was.

fitz said:

This is simply untrue.

I don't know what sort of resolution you're after with all of this.

There does seem to be a whole lot of playing victim and attention seeking though.

What do you want?

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What do I want?

You started the thread which was clearly aimed at me. I am setting the record straight.

CrankyShark said:

I took it to be asking him indirectly. And that is what it was.

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It wasn't what I was asking mate.

I did reference the fact that Fitz has been very selfless and he's gone out of his way to be helpful to people in the past when they have been troubled.

Thresher Shark said:

It wasn't what I was asking mate.

I did reference the fact that Fitz has been very selfless and he's gone out of his way to be helpful to people in the past when they have been troubled.

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If you ask someone if they are OK and tell them that you are worried about them in this very male environment that is how it will be interpreted.

Sorry Cranky, it's not what I meant at the time. I appreciate you sticking up for me but I think it's time to move on and just enjoy a good weekend for the Sharks and a great year ahead.

fitz said:

The person who gave you negative rep is not now, nor has ever been, a moderator or admin of this forum.

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didn't know someone could negative rep another user. In that case it's probably the Flanno/Gallen lovers out there.

Thresher Shark said:

Sorry Cranky, it's not what I meant at the time. I appreciate you sticking up for me but I think it's time to move on and just enjoy a good weekend for the Sharks and a great year ahead.

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I am letting it go. It was a great win yesterday and the season is going to be massive.

CrankyShark said:

I am letting it go. It was a great win yesterday and the season is going to be massive.

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Good stuff Cranky, UP UP!

sharks2010 said:

mate I think you're a good poster and I respect your opinions but there really is no need to go to the club about the forum. It has nothing to do with them just like all the circle jerk Facebook groups out there.

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Not sure that's entirely true.

I usually stay out of these debates as they get pretty heated, but because this is (even though independent) a Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks based website, I'm pretty sure the club can get involved if they feel what's being posted can damage the image of the club/brand.

Time for a straw man argument! (everyone's favourite ) Say if everyone on this forum started abusing homosexuals and posted things such as "gay's aren't allowed to support the club" ect, to my understanding the clubs allowed to step in and contact the administrator and tell them to either stop the abuse or take the website down.

Now I am in no way saying Fitz has said anything along those lines, in fact regardless of what he thinks of me, I have massive respect for Fitz. Sure I do think he's guilty of the pot calling the kettle black from time to time with 'no being a jerk' rule, but he works hard to keep this site up and running so he's alright by me.

Now back to the 'Sharks can't get involved' thing. A debate about Internet/forum laws came up one day in class back when I was in year 12 and I remember reading online the laws about slander/damaging a person/entity's image. I'll look it up, just a sec.

A couple quotes from the efa website:

What is a defamatory publication?
The definition of "defamatory matter" varies among Australian jurisdictions. In some jurisdictions common law definitions apply, while in others (e.g. Queensland and Tasmania) the definition has been codified.
Very generally speaking, material that could be found to be defamatory includes that which has the tendency to lower the person in the estimation of others, or that would tend to result in the person being shunned or avoided or that is likely to expose the person to hatred, contempt or ridicule (trivial ridicule or good natured humour is less likely to be problematic than derisory ridicule).

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Who can sue?
In theory, any individual or entity who considers damage to their reputation has or is likely to occur, as a result of material published, may sue the publisher/s of the material.
In practice, the laws are inaccessible to ordinary individuals who are defamed due to the exhorbitant legal costs involved in bringing a defamation action.
Australia's defamation laws are often used by politicians and corporations who consider the media, individuals or community groups have defamed them in publishing information critical of their activities.

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https://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/defamation.html

Now I'm a simple man (barley passed year 12 lol) but to me that sounds like the Sharks can get involved if they think the members of this forum are damaging the brand. As I said, simple man, if anyone that knows a bit about law could clear it up that'd be great and would be info worth knowing IMO.

JimBob... even by your own admission you're not the brightest bulb in the pack but somehow you've come closest to understanding the reason behind this thread.

The original post is a distancing statement. Distancing works in both directions. Forum away from Club and Club away from forum.

Cranky is only partially correct when he states that this thread is in response to his letter of complaint to the Club.

To some more vexatious or litigious people, this forum may have been seen as a potential cash-cow to someone who wishes to pursue legal proceedings with a view to getting access to the Club's money and assets.

Ultimately, the original post is more about saying that this forum is not a commercial entity, has no assets apart from itself - some rather arbitrary and arcane words on a screen and some media archives used for historical research purposes.

But good on you JimBob for getting almost there - you're not as dumb as your brother looks.

Surely the vexatious or litigious people can get stuffed and get banned.

Shark Magnet said:

Surely the vexatious or litigious people can get stuffed and get banned.

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It is mostly a publicly viewable forum. You cannot ban someone who is not a member of a forum who has taken issue with what has been said on a forum. At any time, the vast majority of people who view this forum are not registered members.