Should we sign Carney or not? Yes or No?

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Sign him i want the best players here and to have a winning side. We have had three pretty terrible years, and i can see carney in the halves turn that around
 

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im all for it if hes got a god attitude, hell be in good form, he can turn us around. im saying yes. i think we should give him a bird type contract (Someone has already mentioned it) and give him a bonus for every year he doesnt get in s***. Obviously its a risky signing
 

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i've explained before but i'll do it again.

1) his efforts this year have shown that he can't bring a second rate team to the top. even if the Roosters made it all the way last year, THAT WAS NOT A SOLO EFFORT. no solo effort will save the Sharks anyways.

2) the Sharks have made a lot of headway into gleaming their public image after a series of disgraceful incidents a few years ago. Why risk ruining that?

3) if the guy is "struggling with alcohol" then he isn't a professional athlete.

4) He's just a ****head

5) Over the past few seasons the Sharks have invested money and time into players such as Albert Kelly and Chad Townsend with the intention of furthering their abilities and preening them for the big time. Their time to crack it is now! Bringing in Carney will mean that either one or both of those players doesn't get their chance. That means all the money and time spent already is just wasted. We'll lose those players to rival clubs who would see their potential, Carney will get sacked and we'll be left with no one.

6) CARNEY WILL NOT BRING US A PREMIERSHIP

7) Did i mention he was a ****head?
 

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i've explained before but i'll do it again.

1) his efforts this year have shown that he can't bring a second rate team to the top. even if the Roosters made it all the way last year, THAT WAS NOT A SOLO EFFORT. no solo effort will save the Sharks anyways.

2) the Sharks have made a lot of headway into gleaming their public image after a series of disgraceful incidents a few years ago. Why risk ruining that?

3) if the guy is "struggling with alcohol" then he isn't a professional athlete.

4) He's just a ****head

5) Over the past few seasons the Sharks have invested money and time into players such as Albert Kelly and Chad Townsend with the intention of furthering their abilities and preening them for the big time. Their time to crack it is now! Bringing in Carney will mean that either one or both of those players doesn't get their chance. That means all the money and time spent already is just wasted. We'll lose those players to rival clubs who would see their potential, Carney will get sacked and we'll be left with no one.

6) CARNEY WILL NOT BRING US A PREMIERSHIP

7) Did i mention he was a ****head?

Thank **** I am not the only one who see this.
 

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i've explained before but i'll do it again.

1) his efforts this year have shown that he can't bring a second rate team to the top. even if the Roosters made it all the way last year, THAT WAS NOT A SOLO EFFORT. no solo effort will save the Sharks anyways.

2) the Sharks have made a lot of headway into gleaming their public image after a series of disgraceful incidents a few years ago. Why risk ruining that?

3) if the guy is "struggling with alcohol" then he isn't a professional athlete.

4) He's just a ****head

5) Over the past few seasons the Sharks have invested money and time into players such as Albert Kelly and Chad Townsend with the intention of furthering their abilities and preening them for the big time. Their time to crack it is now! Bringing in Carney will mean that either one or both of those players doesn't get their chance. That means all the money and time spent already is just wasted. We'll lose those players to rival clubs who would see their potential, Carney will get sacked and we'll be left with no one.

6) CARNEY WILL NOT BRING US A PREMIERSHIP

7) Did i mention he was a ****head?

No1 will argue the ******** part! However people on here are just hoping for results next year and the best squad possible.
 

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No1 will argue the ******** part! However people on here are just hoping for results next year and the best squad possible.

i want results but not at the expense of the integrity of the team and the Sharks' good name. We've got some good halves. Let them build a combo, let them do their thing.

Townsend wouldn't want to play for any other club, Carney is just going to play where ever someone will accept him. That is a valuable point to consider.
 

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i want results but not at the expense of the integrity of the team and the Sharks' good name. We've got some good halves. Let them build a combo, let them do their thing.

Townsend wouldn't want to play for any other club, Carney is just going to play where ever someone will accept him. That is a valuable point to consider.

That is true. We really need a good centre/wing more than anything. Would much rather us convinve Willian Hopoate to sign with us and talk him out of the missions than sign Carney.
 

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In my opinion it is a no brainer. We should sign him.

The team tried so damn hard in the last few rounds of the comp, the forwards worked their rings off, and for no rewards because still can't attack and finish off games.

Carney would be the difference.

Formally I'd take a stance against players like Carney, but I don't want to see the club disappear, and even with the development if we keep drawing crowds of less than 10000 we will disappear.

Winning team = crowds = we've still got a team to support.

And what's the risk anyway. We sign him on an incentive based deal and if it fails, it won't be Cronulla who'll be shamed, it will be Carney himself, we'll be just seen at the club who tried to help him.

Sign him please.
 

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First post.

This is either someone trying to bolster the against vote.

OR

You are serious, in which case you can f..k right off, dont need supporters like you.

p.s.....Sign Carney up!!!!

Mate been supporting the sharks all my life but do we really need someone like the this when we have AK and CT... We couldn't help Brett Seymour so how can we help this guy... Pomeroy needs to finally go and we need to sign a gun centre...
 
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I cant believe we are seriously having this conversation I am aware its the off season but I would rather talk about Rugby or even Jisaw and his Slug ewwwww.

For all the good he could do on the field he could do ten times the damage off it.

also what players have to go to accommodate him as well Chad Kelly the other kids that are looking for a future **** that.

I value our club does anyone honestly think carney would? and that's the problem he doesn't give a flying **** about anyone besides himself not the kind of person any club needs especially ours, the Roosters have just worked that out even they couldn't handle it any longer dont you think they would have kept him if they thought he wouldn't do it again and that's the problem he will and we cant afford that.

So unless he is living and shackled to gallens leg as soon as he leaves the field its a big NO for me.
 
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On the 8th August Phil Rothfield randomly tweets:



Followed by:



The Chairman then tweets:



Today, Phil Rothfield writes an article:



Now I know Rothfield has written all sorts of dribble over the years but on this occasion, it would seem that he has got an agenda at hand. His credibility has always been a bit suss but sometimes he just seems to not engage his brain before opening his mouth.

Sure he may want Todd Carney to come to the Club. That's his opinion and as they say, "opinions are like arsëholes - everyone's got one."

I have my opinions on Todd Carney too as does everyone here. That doesn't make them either right or wrong - they're just opinions.

As far as I'm concerned, the recruitment for the Club is in the hands of Shane Flanagan and Darren Mooney who are then reportable to the Board that employs them. If Flanagan and Mooney want to employ Carney, they'll need to have a pretty good case to argue to the Board that this is an intelligent, prudent and responsible appointment.

In some ways I'd like to see Todd Carney in a Sharks jumper but that is in the jumper only for 80 minutes of football a week during the league season.

I don't want him at an official function mingling with sponsors, politicians, journalists, or doing school and community visits or all those other sorts of ambassadorial jobs that are required of a modern NRL player. Could you confidently rely on Todd to turn up at a school at 9:30 in the morning to address a school assembly and not be hungover? Could you have him at a sponsor's lunch and trust him not to get on the turps and make a goose of himself?

Let's face it... you have to be pretty messed up to be run out of your own town and banned from re-entry for 2 years by a Magistrate. We're not talking about somebody who like a drink or two. We're talking about someone who gets on the grog and gets out of control.

It is naive to say that a Club can manage Todd Carney when clearly he can't even manage himself. There's just way too many caveats, promises and assurances that he will have to make to the Club. Likewise, it is naive to think that somebody can "fix" Todd Carney. There is only one person that can fix Todd Carney and that is Todd Carney.

At this particular point in the Club's history, the Club needs to maintain its focus on the bigger issue at hand - the survival and success of the Club. What the Club doest NOT need is to be playing nursemaid and media janitor to a player that chooses to behave in a way that abrogates his responsibility to his employer and to the community that supports him.

For mine, it's a NO to Todd Carney... and a big facepalm to that goose Rothfield - leave the Sharks recruiting to the guys in charge and stop playing silly-buggers by abusing your journalist's privileges.

Excuse me for being naive Fitz, but journalistic privileges surely don't give a journo the right to go out and make up rubbish. Surely. This is what I just don't understand about the media and how they are allowed to have so much power. Why are they not accountable? Who do they answer to? I reckon laws should be changed to ensure they don't write dribble (and I mean in any sense, not just in sport).

Again me being naive but I really thought the death of Princess Diana would make the media pull their heads in when it came to people's privacy and that laws would be changed to make them pull their heads in. It is obvious that I was wrong and nothing has changed.

Anyway, a bit off topic but I really can't stand people who want to sensationalise everything. If Gal, Flanno or DI have had no imput into this "story" whatsoever and it is all a Rothfield fairy story, then I unreservedly apologise to everyone for falling for it and putting on this poll.

I actually saw Rothfield at the Tigers game and he didn't look well at all. Those photos in the paper are obviously very old ones or touched up as he does not look like a well man.

Thanks Fitz for your input and opinion, at the end of the day common sense will surely prevail and we must not do anything to tarnish this great club. After all the hard work people have put in, it can take just one idiot and one idiotic event to undo all that.

I cant believe we are seriously having this conversation I am aware its the off season but I would rather talk about Rugby or even Jisaw and his Slug ewwwww.

For all the good he could do on the field he could do ten times the damage off it.

also what players have to go to accommodate him as well Chad Kelly the other kids that are looking for a future **** that.

I value our club does anyone honestly think carney would? and that's the problem he doesn't give a flying **** about anyone besides himself not the kind of person any club needs especially ours, the Roosters have just worked that out even they couldn't handle it any longer dont you think they would have kept him if they thought he wouldn't do it again and that's the problem he will and we cant afford that.

So unless he is living and shackled to gallens leg as soon as he leaves the field its a big NO for me.

Exactly Willy, that is what I was saying at the beginning of this thread, we have to put the future of our junior players first. I would not oppose his signing, but I would be just as happy if we didn't.
 
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