Sad but true.
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It’s like the rest of team..
Massive potential but no longer rookies, they go on that edge of the next level then go back into average.. we need someone that can take them to that next level and keep them there
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Apologies if it's already been said, after a game like that it would have required too much energy to read all the posts.
After a few weeks, I was very happy not to make drastic changes. You don't want to throw a whole preseason of work away without giving players time. After 5 rounds, and after throwing away 3 games that could easily have been wins, alarm bells are starting to sound.
This two week break should be an opportunity for some pretty tough reflection. I would hope that Sifa/Moylan/Teig are all being forced to split their training time with the top side with those who are next in line. Writing should be on the wall this week that you either get it together or lose your jersey.
The main question that comes out is "well who do you put in there instead". Whilst I don't disagree that we may not have better options, there is something to be said for a wake up call.
If Tracey/Tricky/Wade/whoever get the start for two weeks, and they aren't better, it's not necessarily a loss. In reality, if the worst they can do is lose us a game, they are in good ****ing company. On the other side, if it serves to light a fire under the 'better' players, then it can't be anything but positive.
After a few weeks, I was very happy not to make drastic changes. You don't want to throw a whole preseason of work away without giving players time. After 5 rounds, and after throwing away 3 games that could easily have been wins, alarm bells are starting to sound.
This two week break should be an opportunity for some pretty tough reflection. I would hope that Sifa/Moylan/Teig are all being forced to split their training time with the top side with those who are next in line. Writing should be on the wall this week that you either get it together or lose your jersey.
The main question that comes out is "well who do you put in there instead". Whilst I don't disagree that we may not have better options, there is something to be said for a wake up call.
If Tracey/Tricky/Wade/whoever get the start for two weeks, and they aren't better, it's not necessarily a loss. In reality, if the worst they can do is lose us a game, they are in good ****ing company. On the other side, if it serves to light a fire under the 'better' players, then it can't be anything but positive.
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Sad loss yesterday, a pathetic 2nd half considering we looked unstoppable in the 1st half, didn't help the rain hit but Warriors still managed to hold onto the ball. All of Warriors tries ended up because of continuing rookie errors, our defence up their end looked alright at times. Our goal line defence on the other hand is terrible.
Onto Fitzzy now, it's time for him to show some ruthlessness now, he can't give them a break during this period of the bye. He doesn't seem to want to drop any players, as I said though he's got to show some ruthfullness now & drop a few current players, drop Moylan for Trindall & perhaps give Tracey a go somewhere even off the bench, he looked decent last year, even give Stonestreet &/or Hazleton their debuts. Make our backline have good basic practice under the highball & our full squad basic play the ball training. Why is he putting a utility on the bench but not even using them? He just seems too nice during this era sometimes by giving them chance after chance, not dropping underperforming players back to NSW cup?
Onto Fitzzy now, it's time for him to show some ruthlessness now, he can't give them a break during this period of the bye. He doesn't seem to want to drop any players, as I said though he's got to show some ruthfullness now & drop a few current players, drop Moylan for Trindall & perhaps give Tracey a go somewhere even off the bench, he looked decent last year, even give Stonestreet &/or Hazleton their debuts. Make our backline have good basic practice under the highball & our full squad basic play the ball training. Why is he putting a utility on the bench but not even using them? He just seems too nice during this era sometimes by giving them chance after chance, not dropping underperforming players back to NSW cup?
He has given Hazelton his debut, last season.
He also has used Tracey somehow this season - on the bench as the utility that is surplus to requirement.
Very few teams drop underperforming players back to cup regularly
He also has used Tracey somehow this season - on the bench as the utility that is surplus to requirement.
Very few teams drop underperforming players back to cup regularly
sharkboy18
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Tracey has been on the bench once or twice I've noticed but as far as I know he hasn't got on once, even this weekend with Trindall on the bench he only used the 3 forward subs unfortunately. Who knows though, perhaps this loss & the bye in a way is what gets them back into line & accept they have to be better, work on the basics in defence & ball handling. maybe in a way the loss is a good thing if you see what I mean, will turn the season around by working on our basics.
One thing I've noticed regarding our defence, they weren't running up to put pressure on their kicker at all, all the time & space in the world for Johnson. Our goal lince defence they don't rush up either, stay completely on the line, that gives their charging 2nd rowers, any player so much momentum to roll over the top on the line. They try & tackle low around the legs & waist then fall of completely because of the forward runs. Tackle front on around the chest.
One thing I've noticed regarding our defence, they weren't running up to put pressure on their kicker at all, all the time & space in the world for Johnson. Our goal lince defence they don't rush up either, stay completely on the line, that gives their charging 2nd rowers, any player so much momentum to roll over the top on the line. They try & tackle low around the legs & waist then fall of completely because of the forward runs. Tackle front on around the chest.
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The exception being the Tigers...
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Better steer clear of those troubled waters
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I notice Fitzy’s dad is making a comeback with the Roosters in NSW cup !
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There is a good reason for this.
While fans tend to want to see players “punished” for poor performances, that is exactly the opposite of the culture any team wants to develop.
Teams work better when the members are given some leeway to take calculated risks, and when it is accepted that mistakes will be made. You don’t get high end performances out of players who are scared that one bad game or one error will see them jettisoned.
Players who are still breaking in to the NRL might be shuffled up and down, have their minutes adjusted suitable to their role, or make their way back through Cup after an injury - but for core players you can’t just go dropping guys whenever they have a shocker. It sends the message to that player and the whole team that mistakes won’t be forgiven and your performances before that shocker don’t matter. That is bad juju.
This is not to say that they should persist with a core player when he is consistently performing poorly or not doing his job, or that they shouldn’t try tweaking things to get more out of the current lineup.
Explain Moylan then. How’s this bloke still in the side after 5 weeks of ****? What message is that sending?
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I think the problem is that we make analysis as fans. Fitz, the players and staff look at it as specialised employees of a Rugby League team. We're worlds apart. For the most part we don't pick up the one percenters, watch replays targeting individual players or look at performance from the perspective of the gameplan... which, if we had, would make a huge difference to the way we saw the games and players performances I'm sure!
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What Sparkles said...
Spot on.
Fans don't see the game like the coach does. Fitz is watching for 100 little things in Moylan's game that @Gumby will never notice.
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You definitely noticed that postIdiot
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I do think that Fitz's coaching style will be all about loyalty and developing the person. I do think this will be great for long term culture. He will attract players who really value this and I think our player movement will be low. The benefit of this is if we get some good young players we will likely keep them.
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I see everything - I’ve gotten many calls on this forum spot on, Moylan isn’t a long term project and we should be investing our energy and time into the future
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