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How dumb does the club think fans are? Do they expect us to believe that Bomber missing a few phone calls from Will Chambers has anything to do with him being sacked? It's Will Chambers ffs. A soon-to-be 33yo centre who hasn't played in the NRL for 18 months looking for a short term lifeline. Jesus - the way some of this stuff is worded you'd think he blocked Cameron Munster's number.

More like how dumb can fans of a club be.

Do you think the board is going to tell Paul ******ing Kent the inner workings of the club? Here’s a thought, maybe they used Will Chambers as an example because they don’t want other examples of Morris’ errors made public? For example, let’s say Nathan Cleary was interested in signing with us, but Morris couldn’t make a decision on him. Does burning bridges with Cleary by making his negotiations public help us? Does making Chad feel like we’re looking for a replacement help us? Does making other players looking at quiet negotiations skeptical of talking to the club help us?

Here’s another example, what if Shaun Johnson is wrong and a lot of the players DON’T want Morris as a coach but like the guy as a mate? Do you think the players would appreciate if the board outed them publicly by saying they didn’t rate Morris’ coaching abilities? Would make things a bit awkward when Morris hosts the next boys BBQ wouldn’t it.

Jesus, maybe everyone should take a step back and realise the club might not want to share stuff with the media, especially with the likes of Buzz and Kent.
 

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This may have been discussed, but I find it strange the NRL were allowed to announce the signing of Fitzgibbon before we announced it.

The club may have held onto the announcement for another week before making it public.
 
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This may have been discussed, but I find it strange the NRL were allowed to announce the signing of Fitzgibbon before we announced it.

The club may have held onto the announcement for another week before making it public.

I'm with you mate, I not only found it strange but I found it very wrong and something the club should be jumping up and down about.

But they don't seem to be. Not sure why that was.
 

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I'm with you mate, I not only found it strange but I found it very wrong and something the club should be jumping up and down about.

But they don't seem to be. Not sure why that was.

If club/Fitz weren't doing a press conference to announce they may not have cared too much whose website it popped up on first. Probably had other spot fires they were more worried about putting out.

If club said 'we are lodging contract for Craig Fitzgibbon as coach, please don't say anything until we have made our own announcement' then obviously that's a concern.
 

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If club/Fitz weren't doing a press conference to announce they may not have cared too much whose website it popped up on first. Probably had other spot fires they were more worried about putting out.

If club said 'we are lodging contract for Craig Fitzgibbon as coach, please don't say anything until we have made our own announcement' then obviously that's a concern.
The club shouldnt even have to say that.
 

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More like how dumb can fans of a club be.

Do you think the board is going to tell Paul ******ing Kent the inner workings of the club? Here’s a thought, maybe they used Will Chambers as an example because they don’t want other examples of Morris’ errors made public? For example, let’s say Nathan Cleary was interested in signing with us, but Morris couldn’t make a decision on him. Does burning bridges with Cleary by making his negotiations public help us? Does making Chad feel like we’re looking for a replacement help us? Does making other players looking at quiet negotiations skeptical of talking to the club help us?

Here’s another example, what if Shaun Johnson is wrong and a lot of the players DON’T want Morris as a coach but like the guy as a mate? Do you think the players would appreciate if the board outed them publicly by saying they didn’t rate Morris’ coaching abilities? Would make things a bit awkward when Morris hosts the next boys BBQ wouldn’t it.

Jesus, maybe everyone should take a step back and realise the club might not want to share stuff with the media, especially with the likes of Buzz and Kent.
Great to see your input again. You definitely aren't as dim as they sim you are.
 

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More like how dumb can fans of a club be.

Do you think the board is going to tell Paul ******ing Kent the inner workings of the club? Here’s a thought, maybe they used Will Chambers as an example because they don’t want other examples of Morris’ errors made public? For example, let’s say Nathan Cleary was interested in signing with us, but Morris couldn’t make a decision on him. Does burning bridges with Cleary by making his negotiations public help us? Does making Chad feel like we’re looking for a replacement help us? Does making other players looking at quiet negotiations skeptical of talking to the club help us?

Here’s another example, what if Shaun Johnson is wrong and a lot of the players DON’T want Morris as a coach but like the guy as a mate? Do you think the players would appreciate if the board outed them publicly by saying they didn’t rate Morris’ coaching abilities? Would make things a bit awkward when Morris hosts the next boys BBQ wouldn’t it.

Jesus, maybe everyone should take a step back and realise the club might not want to share stuff with the media, especially with the likes of Buzz and Kent.

Good call JimBob. In hindsight I should just have said “how dumb do the journos think we are?”

Nice to have you back on board btw.
 

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Care to copy and paste that in Egg. Getting pay walled

NO WHINGING BY THE MASSES - My best cut and paste inbetween other tasks

Cronulla officials feared the NRL wanted to relocate them from the Shire following a meeting at which TODD GREENBERG ASKED THE CLUB TO PROVE WHY IT SHOULD STAY IN THE COMPETITION.The meeting took place in December 2018 in the aftermath of the Sharks’ salary cap scandal, which saw them fined $750,000 and coach Shane Flanagan deregisteredofficer Tony Crawford and commissioner Tony McGrath.
On the other was Sharks chairman Dino Mezzatesta and chief executive Barry Russell.
“It was basically a show-cause to demonstrate why we should be in the competition,” Mezzatesta revealed to this column. “We were asked, ‘How could you possibly play in the competition given your financial situation?’“I asked, ‘Are we the only club here being interviewed because 13 or 14 other clubs traditionally lose $3million $3.5m every year. Or is it just us?’ I didn’t really get a satisfactory answer.”

Asked if he feared the NRL was agitating to relocate the club -- a rumour that has dogged the club for years -- Mezzatesta said: “Cleary, there was a sense that could’ve been an opportunity for the NRL to relocate us. It made us feel uneasy about what the intent was.”

Just how far the club has come since that meeting, from that scandal, to where it stands today has been lost amid the emotional rhetoric surrounding the sacking of coach John Morris and appointment of Roosters assistant Craig Fitzgibbon

There is little doubt Morris’ departure could’ve been handled better.

“But tell me one in the history of this code that’s been done well,” Mezzatesta, who replaced Russell as chief executive in March last year, asked. “When is it an easy decision, in any business? When you make these calls, you do so because you know what’s right for the long-term viability of the club.

“Was it poorly handled? You’re racing against a clock, then trying to calm down a situation that’s already getting out of control, then you get media carnage … as a leader you have to accelerate the process and we did.

“We had to accelerate the process because of the carnage that was happening publicly. That’s unfortunate but that’s our game. The minute we speak to individuals, and more than two people in our game know something, you lose control of the narrative straight away.

“As hard as you try to do things respectfully, and in an orderly fashion, and the way normal business operates, we don’t have that luxury in rugby league. If someone can share with me what a better process is, let me know.”

It took everything but a crowbar to get Mezzatesta to break his silence on Morris’ departure, which is a naivety on his part. Few have ever fixed a public relations train crash by saying nothing. club.CREDIT:GETTY, ARCHIVES

And the Sharks do have a good story to tell. The way Mezzatesta and the board have been painted this week ignores just how far the club has come on their watch.

Once the game’s poorest cousins, the Sharks have $4m in sponsorship with no space left to sell on their playing kit.

They’ve turned a $5.5m loss into a small profit, which is remarkable considering the devastation of COVID-19 last year and the fact the club has been relocated to Kogarah Oval as Sharkies Leagues Club undergoes a major development.

More than that, the fact the Sharks can land the most sought-after assistant in the business in Fitzgibbon – who knocked back arch-rivals St George Illawarra just few months ago – explains just how far they’ve come.

The club wants a regular seat in the top four, pushing for a premiership, not just creep into the finals and then fail against the better sides.

Mezzatesta took on the job a week after COVID-19 struck. Before that, he was the chief financial officer at The Star.

If the pocket-sized Sicilian ever needed a reminder of the difference between the cold operation of a casino and the highly emotive business of professional sport, this week has delivered it.

Much of the discussion has been around Mezzatesta apparently telling Morris at a meeting on Monday that his job was secure, that he was the frontrunner in “pole position”, before being told to pack up his office on Tuesday afternoon.

“That’s interesting,” Mezzatesta says. “It was a positive meeting because we didn’t go at each other’s throats. We had an adult conversation. But it certainly wasn’t me saying, ‘You’re in pole position’“That meeting was pre-arranged, between me and John’s manager, Chris Orr. John turned up because of the activities of Sunday when the media erupted over what was happening. That was fine by me. But for that to be presented that this was the first time that I have met with him [about extending his contract] is rubbish. We work together. All I said to John, ‘You’ve had the inside lane because you’re the incumbent. The board knows you’.”

Fitzgibbon has been linked to the job for months. He’s been linked to a lot of jobs. But claims that a deal had been sealed weeks ago appear wide of the mark.

Loyal to a fault, Fitzgibbon didn’t sign the contract until late on Tuesday when he informed Roosters chairman Nick Politis.

Should Morris have been given more time to prove himself?

He’d mopped up the mess left by Flanagan, which included a reduced salary cap top heavy with overpaid players who were perennially injured or underperformed.

He’d blooded many young players, who had been in the system for years, mostly under his influence.

On his watch, in difficult circumstances, the Sharks finished 7th and then 8th.

Some argue that should have been enough for Morris to keep his job, even though the Sharks never progressed further than the first week.

Others realise the fact the Sharks reached the finals shows just how weak the NRL competition has become. The difference between the handful of genuine contenders and the rest is concerning.

The philosophy at the powerhouse clubs is that nobody is bigger than the club itself. Who truly believes Morris would be a premiership-winning coach of the future?

At Monday’s meeting with Mezzatesta, he presented a one-page document explaining why he should have his contract extended.

The board was left underwhelmed, leaving it with a clear decision: back or sack him?

It’s usually at this point where clubs struggle with the next move.

Remember Des Hasler at the Bulldogs? That board wrestled with that decision for months, then inexplicably re-signed him, then sacked him and was forced into paying him out.

With $3m to spend on 14 spots in the top 30 next year, the Sharks had to make sure they backed the right coach.

“No-one in the club has ever intended to bring malice or harm to John,” Mezzatesta said. “He’s a great, stand-up individual. Being the incumbent, he’s there so we know him. But he needs to be matched up with the other candidates.”

Much like Michael Maguire and Trent Robinson, Fitzgibbon has been considered the next big thing in coaching for several years.

Not far behind is Panthers assistant Cameron Ciraldo, who may still join Fitzgibbon in the Shire.

Then there’s Craig Bellamy, who remains in discussions with the Sharks about joining them as a coaching director.

“I know people are saying we’re a million to one with Craig Bellamy,” Mezzatesta said. “But he’s indicated the whole time that he’s considering the Cronulla Sharks. I have no reason not to believe that. We want to emulate what the big clubs have achieved. If you’re looking to the future, it’s about getting the right people. Getting Craig Fitzgibbon is the first step towards that.

Time will tell if Mezzatesta and his board are the right people in control of Cronulla – but they’ve already come a long way from that meeting in December 2018.

Greenberg confirmed the meeting took place but didn’t want to elaborate publicly on the details.

But what happened just a day later served as a reminder how nobody keeps secrets in this game; whether it’s about a club’s next coach, a potential player signing, or its very survival.

“We explained to them that we’d be OK because there would be $9m coming in over the next three or four months,” Mezzatesta explained. “That number never existed. I made it up. But within 24 hours it was in the newspaper.”
 
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