sharkstragic
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I never actually though about the refs reaction to the challenge, i.e that if proved wrong then the ref would get the ****s.
Adds a whole new dimension to it.
Adds a whole new dimension to it.
NRL Round 13: Cronulla Sutherland Sharks vs. Parramatta Eels Sunday 9 August 4:05pm @ Netstrata Jubilee Stadium
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snowman
Total gronk
thing is, when you lose it so early, the other team can basically do what ever the **** they want and keep their hands all over the ball
there are better things to waste a challenge on than an offside kick chaser in the 9th minute of a game
sharkboy18
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For sure there is also a fair argument to keep it until you either really need it or just calls you're super sure of
But you'd hope the ref will get enough right calls that they can't just keep their hands all over the ball and do whatever the **** they want because the chance of getting penalised for doing the wrong thing should be hugely greater than the chance of getting away with it but having it overturned by successful challenge, especially when it comes to the strip v loose carry lottery
Statistically if Wade doesn't use it there he just gets something else wrong later anyway
Not saying it was a 100% the right play, just I can understand the logic to risk it to keep the pressure on
vicsharkfan
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Hope our legs ain’t to heavy for our next clash v titans.
HaroldBishop
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Yeah was thinking that last night. Very real possibility we're flat.
slide rule
Jaws
Eels and sharks are two of the best animals for those conditions. Eels were a bit better because it wasn’t quite deep enough for a shark.
SharkShocked
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100% this i was with a Parra mate in the stands and could not believe we were challenging something like that so early on. Seemed to me we got confident after the early successful challenge and rolled the dice.
Tiger Shark
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I think unless you're 100% certain you're not wasting a challenge and there's zero risk you just don't use it the first half. Save it for the second half when it might be more game defining.
Also I'm 50/50 on that ball from Fergo being a knock on they should have played to the whistle and not stand around expecting a knock on. That's where our inexperience was shown. They'll learn from it.
snowman
Total gronk
look, i dont think it was a knock on, but that gets called every week
you are right though, we shouldnt have given up
you are right though, we shouldnt have given up
SharkShocked
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The knock on wasn't the thing that pissed me off with that entire passage of play it was the penalty against woods. See a thousand of those 'crowding' moments every game... bloke dropped the ball because he tried to play it too fast and we get pinged for it. That's what pissed me off.
100% need to always play the whistle, something people should learn early in juniors but often never do
As commentators said it'd be a knock on 9 times out of 10. Takes me back to early in the year and Ronaldo got bowled by a ball straight between his legs, gave it a touch on way through but 100% nothing but backwards and we got pinged for it.
Reason he did it was because he knew it was odds on not to get called
They did crowding as bad as that for no call at least once I specifically remember, and most likely a bunch of other times to a lesser extent.
Personally I'd like to see refs just call that every time, if PTB is on the mark and marker leans their knees into it then penalty. If you come forward off the mark expect ref to stop play and send you back to the mark.
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Think you're putting too much importance on the challenge. I find it hard to believe that single challenge changes how the games played. Questioning the first few decisions in a game might piss the ref off though, which could influence things. I think it did a bit... that and Moylan being called out constantly.
Personally I'd prefer to see it saved for a more critical moment, but I wouldn't be surprised if the teams mentality was to try and get the advantage early. Using it in that way makes sense, especially in those conditions.
Either way, you get it right or wrong. If you're wrong it's irrelevent when it's used.
Pretty much, especially given how often they are wrong (although I think Captains are getting better at them). Being wrong early isn't likely to be noticeably worse than being wrong later.
I think there is a lot of value in trying to use it to gain an upper hand early rather than trying to hold it in case there is a crucial moment later - not to say either is always the 100% correct plan but both have value.
Turning around that early call and getting a try might mean a crucial moment to challenge never comes up later.
HaroldBishop
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OK might retract this. We'd be equal 4th on the ladder atm if we won this.
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That game was a very important one for us to win, that's why it hurt more. This is why we can't be "oh well better luck next time", no, every win counts and every point counts, games like that can either get us a top 4 position with an extra chance in the finals, or one chance with a harder path.
snowman
Total gronk
thats what hurts the most, this game would have all but secured finals footy
Gards
Jaws
Or if we didn't throw away a win and 2 points against the Storm with a pointless penalty towards the end of the game. that one hurt me more as the win was pretty much in the bag and we shot ourselves without reason.
Parra loss we had some 50/50 officiating hurt us and we couldn't defend it out but we didn't throw it away
Every freagin season I look at the table and think of the games we should have won but didn't and fantasize about where we should rightfully be on the table
Parra loss we had some 50/50 officiating hurt us and we couldn't defend it out but we didn't throw it away
Every freagin season I look at the table and think of the games we should have won but didn't and fantasize about where we should rightfully be on the table
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Yup agree on the Storm match too.
We are honestly our worst enemy, could potentially be sitting in the top 4 if we win our Rabbits, Storm and Parra games.
HaroldBishop
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Thing is plenty of teams can say the same thing though. Lost a game or 2 they should have won.