Who Should We Look At For 2014?

[deano the p]

Also by that arguement that not playing first grade means that you are not good enough to would mean that Peachey is not good enough to play first grade because he is only playing due to injury. Sometimes good players dont get a shot doesnt mean they were not good enough to perform if they did get a shot.

He could crack a piss poor pack. Peachey has had a rep quality back row in front of him and guess what he is playing first grade. Every team has injuries David didn't get called up at ANY stage.

 

[hamsy44]

So I guess you don't see peach stuck behind the best backrow in the comp?

If David was good enough he would of cracked a fairly soft tigers pack. Like I said i'd take him as a project player in NSW cup but to say he's going to be anywhere near Andrew's level is crazy imo.

Their pack was not soft last year. Mat Groat, Galloway, Aaron Woods even Blair (at the time he was not as **** as he is now). The year before they had Gibbs over blair.

Andrew wasnt getting a regular start in 2010 or 2011 thats why he came to the Sharks.

Even last year he wasnt as good as he is this year. He worked hard in the offseason to get to the fittness he is at now.

Thats why I am saying he already has the same size, speed, footwork and fend, if David put in the same work with us in an offseason there is no reason why he could not be as good.

And the point I was making about Peachey is we (as sharks fans) know he can play but other sides fans other then those who watch NSW cup regularly would probably not realise his talents. You can not judge someone purely on the fact they dont make first grade, sometimes coaches make mistakes not playing someone.

 

[deano the p]

Their pack was not soft last year. Mat Groat, Galloway, Aaron Woods even Blair (at the time he was not as **** as he is now). The year before they had Gibbs over blair.

Andrew wasnt getting a regular start in 2010 or 2011 thats why he came to the Sharks.

Even last year he wasnt as good as he is this year. He worked hard in the offseason to get to the fittness he is at now.

Thats why I am saying he already has the same size, speed, footwork and fend, if David put in the same work with us in an offseason there is no reason why he could not be as good.

And the point I was making about Peachey is we (as sharks fans) know he can play but other sides fans other then those who watch NSW cup regularly would probably not realise his talents. You can not judge someone purely on the fact they dont make first grade, sometimes coaches make mistakes not playing someone.

You're a moron his genetics are the same not his abilities.

Peachey is playing first grade your point is null and void.

 

[hamsy44]

You're a moron his genetics are the same not his abilities.

Peachey is playing first grade your point is null and void.

I see the problem you are not good at reading a full paragraph.

Let me dumb it down for you champ. David train good he get better. He not train good he not get better. He come to sharks and train good he be good player.

 

[deano the p]

I see the problem you are not good at reading a full paragraph.

Let me dumb it down for you champ. David train good he get better. He not train good he not get better. He come to sharks and train good he be good player.

Really training makes people better? I didn't know that wow.

You are saying his speed/foot work/fend/strength is already the same because of genetics and if he trained he may get to be as good as Andrew. Second part is correct first part is so moronic that everyone who read it was made stupider by reading it.

By the way it was a sentence you wrote that I commented on not a paragraph.

 

[Mr Wright]

This genetics argument makes my head hurt. Going around in circles.

 

[hamsy44]

Really training makes people better? I didn't know that wow.

You are saying his speed/foot work/fend/strength is already the same because of genetics and if he trained he may get to be as good as Andrew. Second part is correct first part is so moronic that everyone who read it was made stupider by reading it.

By the way it was a sentence you wrote that I commented on not a paragraph.

So are saying if I am correct in my understanding that you feel David Fifita does not share his brothers base level of skill yes?

 

[deano the p]

So are saying if I am correct in my understanding that you feel David Fifita does not share his brothers base level of skill yes?

Correct.

Skills are something that is developed through out life not something you are born with.

They have the same base traits due to genetics and therefore COULD become very similiar players as they have the same genetics that can allow them to obtain strengths in certain skill areas.

However this isn't simply a off season transformation. These blokes have been working at their traits in different ways for over 23 years.

If you can't understand from Timmy's explaination then you have no hope of understanding it.

genetics are genetics they cant be changed.... yet, if they are in fact identical twins they have the same DNA,

but while identical twins do share a lot of similar characteristics, there are to many variables to say that just because of identical genetics that a twin is just as good as the other

things like personality come into it, fifita might have a better work ethic, might have a bit more anger and agression, personality is not identical

even something like if andrew trained more legs in the gym and the brother more upper body could effect the outcome of performance

there are way to many variables to say that one twin has the same talent as the other just because of genetic makeup.

 

[Thresher]

genetics are genetics they cant be changed.... yet, if they are in fact identical twins they have the same DNA,

but while identical twins do share a lot of similar characteristics, there are to many variables to say that just because of identical genetics that a twin is just as good as the other

things like personality come into it, fifita might have a better work ethic, might have a bit more anger and agression, personality is not identical

even something like if andrew trained more legs in the gym and the brother more upper body could effect the outcome of performance

there are way to many variables to say that one twin has the same talent as the other just because of genetic makeup.

that's exactly what I'm saying, except I more see the term talent as potential, just because someone has got talent it doesn't mean that they'll achieve

 

[snowman]

this thread went retarded

 

[Bundy Shark]

A players mental application or being able to read a game would go a long way towards how they perform on the field, not saying David doesn't have it but Andrew does as he's proven himself already .

 

[hamsy44]

Why dont you at the next home game speak to Andrew about his brother or ask him on twitter and how long he thinks it would take for him to first grade ready.

 

[deano the p]

A players mental application or being able to read a game would go a long way towards hey they perform on the field, not saying David doesn't have it but Andrew does as he's proven himself already .

Yep.

 

[snowman]

Why dont you at the next home game speak to Andrew about his brother or ask him on twitter and how long he thinks it would take for him to first grade ready.

one guy plays Origin, the other plays park footy...

yet, they are the same player because they are twins? SMFH

 

[hamsy44]

one guy plays Origin, the other plays park footy...

yet, they are the same player because they are twins? SMFH

Never said they were as in are now, I said they could be.

But its cute you need to jump in for Deano

 

[deano the p]

Why dont you at the next home game speak to Andrew about his brother or ask him on twitter and how long he thinks it would take for him to first grade ready.

So he isn't ready for first grade? I thought he had all the skills Andrew does and that combo would be better than the Burgess twins? That would make one assume he would dominate in first grade.

I agree he would be a good development project IF he would be willing to sign to just be that.

 

[deano the p]

He only left because he could get twice the money in that "sub par" league. i have seen them both play and they are identical. With an offseason in an NRL side you would have two players who could produce the same numbers. They are IDENTICAL twins mate they are the same height, they have the same footwork same speed and could be the same weight (they were at the tigers)

I saw them play together, you could not tell who was who on field there were as damaging as each other. I am 100% sure with an offseason with the sharks David would be as effective as Andrew.

Never said they were as in are now, I said they could be.

But its cute you need to jump in for Deano

Those parts seem to suggest he was the same and will be the same not could be.

As for needing to jump in for me I had already schooled you clown and still am to this very post.

 

[henry]

I really still want Jarrod Croker

 

[sharks2010]

Game set match deano in a convincing win

 

[Opeth]

his brother sounds like a really lazy prick.