Who Should We Look At For 2014?

[Luke]

l think Fensom will be signed up with the Raiders for the next trillion years. Blair looks like he wants out from the Tigers

I reckon we should let Fifita and Gibbs go and go all out to try and sign Blair.... LOL @ Wests Tigers

Melbourne keen to get him back.

 

[egg]

Been said on the forum somewhere before but would love to somehow sign Andrew Fifita's brother David, be a brother combo not seen here since the Sorensens

would we use them at the same time to completely splat the opposition or swap them on interchange for continual Fifitarisation?

found this article about him from last month, seems to have had a good season in France


http://www.frenchfooty.com.au/magical-weekend-ahead-for-fifita/

I'll 2nd that... WOW imagine! BETTER than having the burgess twins

 

[josh11223344]

haha playing in a sub par league... lol

If we want a big guy who might actually have an impact in the nrl, sign this guy:

http://www.warriors.co.nz/playerprofiledisplay/Warriors/Sam-Lousi/5180

Very similar to fifita.

 

[deano the p]

I'll 2nd that... WOW imagine! BETTER than having the burgess twins

I'd rather the Burgess twins.

 

[hamsy44]

haha playing in a sub par league... lol

If we want a big guy who might actually have an impact in the nrl, sign this guy:

http://www.warriors.co.nz/playerprofiledisplay/Warriors/Sam-Lousi/5180

Very similar to fifita.

He only left because he could get twice the money in that "sub par" league. i have seen them both play and they are identical. With an offseason in an NRL side you would have two players who could produce the same numbers. They are IDENTICAL twins mate they are the same height, they have the same footwork same speed and could be the same weight (they were at the tigers)

 

[josh11223344]

How can you use the identical twins argument? It means nothing in regards to their on field performance.

He didn't make the grade at the tigers and went overseas, might be worth getting on the cheap in nsw cup but if he's on the big money like you say he wouldn't come back for that and wouldn't be worth anymore than nsw cup money to us.

 

[egg]

He only left because he could get twice the money in that "sub par" league. i have seen them both play and they are identical. With an offseason in an NRL side you would have two players who could produce the same numbers. They are IDENTICAL twins mate they are the same height, they have the same footwork same speed and could be the same weight (they were at the tigers)

Thanks Hamsy ,that's where I was comming from..
As usual Dean and Josh opinions way off the mark

 

[deano the p]

Thanks Hamsy ,that's where I was comming from..
As usual Dean and Josh opinions way off the mark

A bloke couldn't make it into first grade so he went over seas vs a proven first grader hmmm I wonder who I'd rather. Muppet.

Who cares that they are identical twins? It doesn't mean their skill levels are the same in everything. If you think it does you still haven't developed from an egg.

 

[josh11223344]

haha onya egg, they're identical twins, they will be the same player... righto.

 

[Thresher]

How can you use the identical twins argument? It means nothing in regards to their on field performance.

He didn't make the grade at the tigers and went overseas, might be worth getting on the cheap in nsw cup but if he's on the big money like you say he wouldn't come back for that and wouldn't be worth anymore than nsw cup money to us.

what do you mean being identical means nothing? It means same genetics, same freak strength, same pace - all these things have got more than a little bit to do with on field performance

if you're saying that he might not train as hard or that he might not have the same work ethic on the field I'd have to agree, that's very plausible

but using the word nothing means you've got nothing

 

[hamsy44]

How can you use the identical twins argument? It means nothing in regards to their on field performance.

He didn't make the grade at the tigers and went overseas, might be worth getting on the cheap in nsw cup but if he's on the big money like you say he wouldn't come back for that and wouldn't be worth anymore than nsw cup money to us.

I saw them play together, you could not tell who was who on field there were as damaging as each other. I am 100% sure with an offseason with the sharks David would be as effective as Andrew.

 

[deano the p]

what do you mean being identical means nothing? It means same genetics, same freak strength, same pace - all these things have got more than a little bit to do with on field performance

if you're saying that he might not train as hard or that he might not have the same work ethic on the field I'd have to agree, that's very plausible

but using the word nothing means you've got nothing

Their genetics are the same but that doesn't mean they are the same strength, have the same pace or anything along those lines. Strength, skill, speed all have to be worked on you don't just have it from the moment you're born. For all we know Andrew is four times the player his brother is because he has worked harder on becoming a professional.

 

[deano the p]

I saw them play together, you could not tell who was who on field there were as damaging as each other. I am 100% sure with an offseason with the sharks David would be as effective as Andrew.

So that's why in 2012 when David went to France he hadn't played first grade when Andrew had been since 2010? Right.

 

[Thresher]

Their genetics are the same but that doesn't mean they are the same strength, have the same pace or anything along those lines. Strength, skill, speed all have to be worked on you don't just have it from the moment you're born. For all we know Andrew is four times the player his brother is because he has worked harder on becoming a professional.

exactly, they have the same core ingredients, it's ultimately up to the individual what they do with them

 

[Jay]

Any updates on Kahu?

 

[hamsy44]

So that's why in 2012 when David went to France he hadn't played first grade when Andrew had been since 2010? Right.

David not playing first grade had nothing to do with ability. In 2010 David and Andrew were both picked for Tonga in the world cup. David played Andrew didnt (think he was injured).

He can play I will gather you have not seen him play yes?

 

[hamsy44]

So that's why in 2012 when David went to France he hadn't played first grade when Andrew had been since 2010? Right.

Also by that arguement that not playing first grade means that you are not good enough to would mean that Peachey is not good enough to play first grade because he is only playing due to injury. Sometimes good players dont get a shot doesnt mean they were not good enough to perform if they did get a shot.

 

[josh11223344]

So I guess you don't see peach stuck behind the best backrow in the comp?

If David was good enough he would of cracked a fairly soft tigers pack. Like I said i'd take him as a project player in NSW cup but to say he's going to be anywhere near Andrew's level is crazy imo.

 

[Timmyb22]

genetics are genetics they cant be changed.... yet, if they are in fact identical twins they have the same DNA,

but while identical twins do share a lot of similar characteristics, there are to many variables to say that just because of identical genetics that a twin is just as good as the other

things like personality come into it, fifita might have a better work ethic, might have a bit more anger and agression, personality is not identical

even something like if andrew trained more legs in the gym and the brother more upper body could effect the outcome of performance

there are way to many variables to say that one twin has the same talent as the other just because of genetic makeup.

 

[deano the p]

David not playing first grade had nothing to do with ability. In 2010 David and Andrew were both picked for Tonga in the world cup. David played Andrew didnt (think he was injured).

He can play I will gather you have not seen him play yes?

Wow you honestly think he is as good as Andrew :lmao

If it had nothing to do with ability exactly why wasn't he playing first grade?

I have seen him play actually he went pretty well in a poor comp. Just like he is playing well in a comp full of no bodys now.

You are going to boast how good he is because he made the Tonga side?

Here is that train on squad:

David Hala
Mickey Paea
Siosaia Vave
Esi Tonga
William Hopoate
Atelea Vea
Sinbad Kali
Sione Kite
Antonio Kaufusi
Cooper Vuna
Richard Fa'aoso
Sione Tovo
Sione Lousi
Ukuma Ta'ai
Siuatonga Likiliki
Etu Uaisele
Feleti Mateo
Taniela Lasalo
Fetuli Talanoa
Lopini Paea
Andrew Fifita
David Fifita
Sam Latu
Tame Tupou
William Mataka
David Tangata-Toa
Epalahame Lauaki
Sam Moa
Willie Manu
Tevita Leo-Latu
Louis Anderson
Vinnie Anderson

Some good players in their but most are fringe first graders at best, a lot of them never went on to anything.

I would be happy if we signed him on a small contract but to make out that he is better than Burgess because he's Andrew's identical tiwn is just plain idiotic.