Traditional suburban grounds - What future for Remondis Stadium?

[BlackWhiteBlue]

I suspect much of the push to ANZ & Allianz is being driven by broadcasting partners too. Production, talent and broadcast costs and logistics are comparatively cheaper coming out of one or two venues. There will also be a greater push towards double and triple headers. it's all about the money...


money... money...

Until u get a triple header in torrential rain and all junior games get cancelled and the ground is rat **** mid way through game 2. Game 3 then gets canned too.

 

[Addy]

NRC, Super Rugbys little brother is taking to Sydney's suburban grounds, just not ours. They're all state owned.

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/aru-takes-rugby-to-nrl-home-grounds/tabid/91/newsid/137566/default.aspx

 

[FNQ Shark]

Out of the sharks development how much is actually going to be done to Remondis? Is it just a developing of the surrounding land or is the actual stadium getting a facelift ? Has anyone any info on this? And if so shouldn't that give a bright future for our ground so we don't have to be playing at the other stadiums ?

 

[Gards]

They will install an umbrella on gronk hill

 

[fitz]

Out of the sharks development how much is actually going to be done to Remondis? Is it just a developing of the surrounding land or is the actual stadium getting a facelift ? Has anyone any info on this? And if so shouldn't that give a bright future for our ground so we don't have to be playing at the other stadiums ?

Any improvements to the ground or the Leagues Club are at the cost of the the Leagues Club and NOT the Joint Venture Partners.

It is fairly obvious now that there will be no government grants for improvements to the ground. The ground is zoned "Private Recreational" and subsequently it will be up to the Club's financial priorities and the largesse of Bluestone as to whether the ground improvements go ahead.

I'm not holding my breath.

Ultimately, the Club has a greater battle post November re-franchising deals and whether it is offered an ongoing NRL licence.

 

[Sir Chadley]

Any improvements to the ground or the Leagues Club are at the cost of the the Leagues Club and NOT the Joint Venture Partners.

It is fairly obvious now that there will be no government grants for improvements to the ground. The ground is zoned "Private Recreational" and subsequently it will be up to the Club's financial priorities and the largesse of Bluestone as to whether the ground improvements go ahead.

I'm not holding my breath.

Ultimately, the Club has a greater battle post November re-franchising deals and whether it is offered an ongoing NRL licence.

This is the part that really worries me. I'm not sure anyone in charge seriously considers we may not be offered a NRL licence. That's a huge mistake.

 

[JimBob]

This is the part that really worries me. I'm not sure anyone in charge seriously considers we may not be offered a NRL licence. That's a huge mistake.

I would be shocked and downright furious if we are refused an NRL license.

We, unlike most clubs, have a secure financial future with the development. This would mean the NRL wouldn't have to look to bailing us out of financial troubles every year like they have to with several Sydney clubs. This would result in the NRL having more money to use in more important areas of the game, such as modernising the video ref or funding country rugby league.

Excluding this disastrous year, our membership and crowd numbers were on the rise which meant people do actually care about the Sharks. Yeah you can look at this year when we're coming last, sacked our star player and were without a coach and talk about our crowd numbers ect , but even with all the drama we've still pulled in several big crowds (Knights game for example) and cracked over 10,000 members when we are at our lowest. Manly have been a dominant force for nearly a decade and the crowds they pull are abysmal and their stadium is even worse.

If they want to bring the ASADA case into the argument, we have complied with just about everything the NRL has told us to do. It's not the clubs fault this investigation has dragged out this long. We copped the fine on the chin and suspended our coach and I'm sure if the investigation shows that players took the peptides we'll do whatever the NRL tells us to do with the players , whether it be fine them, suspend them or even sack them.

 

[HaroldBishop]

I would be shocked and downright furious if we are refused an NRL license.

We, unlike most clubs, have a secure financial future with the development. This would mean the NRL wouldn't have to look to bailing us out of financial troubles every year like they have to with several Sydney clubs. This would result in the NRL having more money to use in more important areas of the game, such as modernising the video ref or funding country rugby league.

Excluding this disastrous year, our membership and crowd numbers were on the rise which meant people do actually care about the Sharks. Yeah you can look at this year when we're coming last, sacked our star player and were without a coach and talk about our crowd numbers ect , but even with all the drama we've still pulled in several big crowds (Knights game for example) and cracked over 10,000 members when we are at our lowest. Manly have been a dominant force for nearly a decade and the crowds they pull are abysmal and their stadium is even worse.

If they want to bring the ASADA case into the argument, we have complied with just about everything the NRL has told us to do. It's not the clubs fault this investigation has dragged out this long. We copped the fine on the chin and suspended our coach and I'm sure if the investigation shows that players took the peptides we'll do whatever the NRL tells us to do with the players , whether it be fine them, suspend them or even sack them.

Who is going to generate more money for the NRL? A team like Cronulla or another team in Brisbane? A team in Perth which gives broadcasters another timezone? I doubt we'll lose our licence, but there would be other alternatives to us that would make the game more money.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

Who is going to generate more money for the NRL? A team like Cronulla or another team in Brisbane? A team in Perth which gives broadcasters another timezone? I doubt we'll lose our licence, but there would be other alternatives to us that would make the game more money.

maybe so, but i think the fact the development is bright,having sold large amounts of residential real estate already, while our recent governance was perceived as being terrible we have jumped through the NRLs hoops, we've taken our NRL imposed punishments and pushed on, we arent as bad as the DT want to mae us look. look at boards like Tigers, who have had to have the NRL restructure the boardroom itself to sort out their niggling. Mass pay outs from the NRL to them and SG-I also. We arent the only troubled sydney side. Thats a fact. And the fact we are putting measures in place to make us more self sustainable opposed to the 2 mergers who ironically are struggling more than the teams that didnt merge, are still treading water without the light at the end of the tunnel. Let it be known, the NRL arent about to buckle to media pressure to relocate us or not renew our license in 2 years time.

 

[slide rule]

Who is going to generate more money for the NRL? A team like Cronulla or another team in Brisbane? A team in Perth which gives broadcasters another timezone? I doubt we'll lose our licence, but there would be other alternatives to us that would make the game more money.

Perth etc would cost them a **** load initially, if they do it properly.

The set up costs would be massive.

 

[Littleshark]

This is the part that really worries me. I'm not sure anyone in charge seriously considers we may not be offered a NRL licence. That's a huge mistake.

I would think that the backlash from other clubs and their supporters would be massive if the NRL dosen't continue the Sharks or any clubs license.

Smart people would soon realise that if they can do it to us they could do it to anyone, could potentially lead to another superleague type fiasco
with clubs wanting a change to NRL licensing. Club management of any smart clubs would be pushing for a guarantee of future participation.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

Perth etc would cost them a **** load initially, if they do it properly.

The set up costs would be massive.

and heres the next thing. Do they believe they would be 20-30,000 a week at their games? Who will play there? What if the first year or 3 the team is utter ****, the fans go back to AFL and we have the western reds all over again. At the expense of established teams

 

[HaroldBishop]

maybe so, but i think the fact the development is bright,having sold large amounts of residential real estate already, while our recent governance was perceived as being terrible we have jumped through the NRLs hoops, we've taken our NRL imposed punishments and pushed on, we arent as bad as the DT want to mae us look. look at boards like Tigers, who have had to have the NRL restructure the boardroom itself to sort out their niggling. Mass pay outs from the NRL to them and SG-I also. We arent the only troubled sydney side. Thats a fact. And the fact we are putting measures in place to make us more self sustainable opposed to the 2 mergers who ironically are struggling more than the teams that didnt merge, are still treading water without the light at the end of the tunnel. Let it be known, the NRL arent about to buckle to media pressure to relocate us or not renew our license in 2 years time.

Yep I don't believe we will be relocated or lose our licence. Just saying from the NRL's perspective, there are places to put a team that will generate more money for the game than we can. That's a given really.

 

[HaroldBishop]

and heres the next thing. Do they believe they would be 20-30,000 a week at their games? Who will play there? What if the first year or 3 the team is utter ****, the fans go back to AFL and we have the western reds all over again. At the expense of established teams

I think a team based there would be attracting fans that aren't particularly into the AFL in the first place.

 

[hamsy44]

maybe so, but i think the fact the development is bright,having sold large amounts of residential real estate already, while our recent governance was perceived as being terrible we have jumped through the NRLs hoops, we've taken our NRL imposed punishments and pushed on, we arent as bad as the DT want to mae us look. look at boards like Tigers, who have had to have the NRL restructure the boardroom itself to sort out their niggling. Mass pay outs from the NRL to them and SG-I also. We arent the only troubled sydney side. Thats a fact. And the fact we are putting measures in place to make us more self sustainable opposed to the 2 mergers who ironically are struggling more than the teams that didnt merge, are still treading water without the light at the end of the tunnel. Let it be known, the NRL arent about to buckle to media pressure to relocate us or not renew our license in 2 years time.

The team and the development are two separate things. Just cause we may have money will not change the fact we have the lowest supporter base and very low membership.

I would take it as a given that the number of sides in Sydney will be looked at when the next lot of licences are handed out. It won't be a given that all 16 clubs get one.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

The team and the development are two separate things. Just cause we may have money will not change the fact we have the lowest supporter base and very low membership.

I would take it as a given that the number of sides in Sydney will be looked at when the next lot of licences are handed out. It won't be a given that all 16 clubs get one.

very low? we have about 12,000 members this year. thats more than last year and more than double the year before.

 

[egg]

Any improvements to the ground or the Leagues Club are at the cost of the the Leagues Club and NOT the Joint Venture Partners.

It is fairly obvious now that there will be no government grants for improvements to the ground. The ground is zoned "Private Recreational" and subsequently it will be up to the Club's financial priorities and the largesse of Bluestone as to whether the ground improvements go ahead.

I'm not holding my breath.

Ultimately, the Club has a greater battle post November re-franchising deals and whether it is offered an ongoing NRL licence.

How did you come to that conclusion Fitz ?

 

[dylan the villian]

IMO the nrl won't buckle to media pressure in regards to licence renewals. They will do so based on what the think is marketable and profitably.
Meaning we should be no less worried.

 

[DeathMoth]

If the NRL shafts suburban grounds I will discontinue my support for the game.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

If the NRL shafts suburban grounds I will discontinue my support for the game.

Support? You mean mooching free tickets from my stash of free tickets and leaving early in disgust anyway?