NeverJack Bird anyone ?
NeverJack Bird anyone ?
I'm definitely speculating about the warriors exit, but I guess that was in response to the speculation that he has changed/reformed.Lodge had already asked for a release from the warriors there is absolutely no reason to pay him out for additional years if he is in the wrong. We don’t know what went down but given known circumstances I’m assuming no wrong doing from Lodge.
Also had a bit of a clash on the booze with Jack Bird who can be a bit of a pelican himself. Probably at least a takes two to tango situation.
What he did was atrocious and I wouldn’t have minded if he never got let back into NRL but he did and to date seems like he’s kept his nose clean.
What he did was at a pretty high level of psychotic violence, presumably brought about by substance abuse.I'm definitely speculating about the warriors exit, but I guess that was in response to the speculation that he has changed/reformed.
For me, keeping his nose clean is the bare minimum and more reflects a concern for losing his gravy train than remorse and redemption. In order to explore signing him, I'd want to know more about the active steps he is taking to leave a better imprint on society. Hopefully beyond "I'll let the people who hate me watch me get punched in the head for charity". Not that I hate that, just think he could do more.
I'm not saying that he isn't doing any of these things for what it's worth.
Blow im darts and peashoot,maybe even throw peanuts ya reconCould always keep the big fella in a cage and start bashing on it about 20 minutes before kick-off.
Always going to happenJWH to stay on at the Roosters - financial details to be sorted out later …
If you’re a US president that rapes a woman.Just to add to the above, I think there are lots of examples where people lose/should lose their chance to go back into careers for ****ing up.
- If you're a teacher or anyone that works with children who abuses their position of power and influence
- If you're a police officer who fabricates evidence
- If you're an elected official who engages in corruption
I think if you want to be a public figure, you either set the example or you forfeit that position. I don't think exceptions should be made because we want our team to win.
Manly form yesWould people take Addin Fonua-Blake?
Sorry I don't mean on form I was referring to his record outside of footy compared to Lodge.Manly form yes
Warriors form no
JWH to stay on at the Roosters - financial details to be sorted out later …
That's a very good point. I completely forgot about that situation with AFB.Sorry I don't mean on form I was referring to his record outside of footy compared to Lodge.
I know you said you'd be okay with signing Lodge so its more for people who said no to being able to support him, just wondering if they could support AFB or other players charged with domestic violence offences
Greg InglisSorry I don't mean on form I was referring to his record outside of footy compared to Lodge.
I know you said you'd be okay with signing Lodge so its more for people who said no to being able to support him, just wondering if they could support AFB or other players charged with domestic violence offences
In a heartbeat. He was the best front rower in the game at manly. No reason he can’t find that form again.Would people take Addin Fonua-Blake?
I'm definitely not insinuating the bold. That's ridiculous.What he did was at a pretty high level of psychotic violence, presumably brought about by substance abuse.
If that kind of thing was going to happen again I don't think fear of losing his NRL contract would be enough to stop it.
I doubt he is thinking as soon as this money stops I can be a monster again, and rather is (hopefully) thinking I won't ever put myself in that situation again.
But thinking has been an issue for him in the past.
I agree we haven't necessarily seen him out doing Nicho or Ronnie levels of good. Does he need to?
He has repaid the debt to the victims, does he owe the general public charity work to prove he is not a monster anymore?
Not really sure where I stand on the answer to that. It wouldn't hurt with impressions of him, but required for forgiveness from unaffected randoms? Might be nice, but no.
Russell Packer is another bloke I would have been fine if they just never let him back in. Do we know if he has been in any trouble since his gravy train dried up?
He already IS playing NRL though, whether he earned it back or not he already has the privilege. And he is yet to throw it away (a second time).I'm definitely not insinuating the bold. That's ridiculous.
I just believe that his role is a position of privilege, and someone should have to earn back that position of privilege. That's what it would take for me to be okay with him back as a representative of the NRL and the club. I don't believe you earn that right after what he did by just not ****ing up again.
Whether people want them to be or not, these guys are roll models not just for other players, but for the kids/the community.
Anyway, I don't think we'll agree on this one, and I don't want to derail this thread any further.