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[Sevshark]

My Tiger mate agrees, sees him as a second rower.

They also have Finau (spelling?) who is highly rated.

Yeah, his brother is the young forward coming off the bench for them at the moment, both supremely talented.

I expect the tigers to be competitive before the dogs honestly, lot of young talent already starting to filter in

 

[HaroldBishop]

Yeah, his brother is the young forward coming off the bench for them at the moment, both supremely talented.

I expect the tigers to be competitive before the dogs honestly, lot of young talent already starting to filter in

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[Proud Shark]

That’s a big call to say he will be as good or better then these guys as they are now at halfback.

We are all watching him and the team get wasted by Fitz playing him as a halfback ; Give him back his running game

I'm prepared to live by it. Someone like Moses went from running half to game manager over a few years at the Eels, Sj did it too. Nicho is in his 3rd year as a halfback now, I don't think it's much of a stretch to think he can develop that part of his game over the next few years.

I think Nicho has ran the ball fine since he's been with us. I certainly don't think Fitz is holding him back.

 

[bort]

I'm prepared to live by it. Someone like Moses went from running half to game manager over a few years at the Eels, Sj did it too. Nicho is in his 3rd year as a halfback now, I don't think it's much of a stretch to think he can develop that part of his game over the next few years.

I think Nicho has ran the ball fine since he's been with us. I certainly don't think Fitz is holding him back.

Adding to bold

Nicho ran 16 times to Trindall's 3 vs Tigers
He ran 23 times to Trindall's 13 vs Dogs
And 14 times to 7 against the Warriors

I thought calling him a running 5/8 was code for 'I inexplicably think Trindall is an elite game manager and don't think Hynes is or ever could be' not an actual criticism of amount of runs. If it is about him touching the ball less but running more... wild

If it is about when he has the chance to run - he gets plenty of late set ball as playmaker on one side, or as second receiver. We don't have some fixed structure that locks Hynes into passing to Trindall to decide whether to run or pass every set.

To your first point, SJ is a great example developed by exactly the same halves coach Nicho has... SJ may be playing better now but his transition started under DJ.
DJ has also been Trindall's halves coach for the past 5 years, since he was 19, and actually I think Flegg used to be 20s? He would have been Trindalls assistant coach his very first season with Cronulla too.
Obviously this assumes someone cares to give DJ any credit at all, but he did start on our coaching staff in 2016 and continue to gain more responsibility and was recently recommended for an International head coach role by the outgoing coach.

Other halves which play predominantly 7 but have a strong run game include former great JT (who excelled in both roles), fullback transitioner Hughes and, when things are going well, Nathan Cleary (who had 22 runs in a grand final winning performance - Luai 7, Arey 9, Mam 9).

I see no reason to worry about how much Nicho does or does not run. Some criticisms of selection or quality perhaps, but very few players nail every run. Put them after faster play the balls and they will always look better.

 

[Thresher]

Adding to bold

Nicho ran 16 times to Trindall's 3 vs Tigers
He ran 23 times to Trindall's 13 vs Dogs
And 14 times to 7 against the Warriors

I thought calling him a running 5/8 was code for 'I inexplicably think Trindall is an elite game manager and don't think Hynes is or ever could be' not an actual criticism of amount of runs. If it is about him touching the ball less but running more... wild

If it is about when he has the chance to run - he gets plenty of late set ball as playmaker on one side, or as second receiver. We don't have some fixed structure that locks Hynes into passing to Trindall to decide whether to run or pass every set.

To your first point, SJ is a great example developed by exactly the same halves coach Nicho has... SJ may be playing better now but his transition started under DJ.
DJ has also been Trindall's halves coach for the past 5 years, since he was 19, and actually if I think Flegg used to be 20s? He would have been Trindalls assistant coach his very first season with Cronulla too.
Obviously this assumes someone cares to give DJ any credit at all, but he did start on our coaching staff in 2016 and continue to gain more responsibility and was recently recommended for an International head coach role by the outgoing coach.

Other halves which play predominantly 7 but have a strong run game include former great JT, fullback transitioner Hughes and, when things are going well, Nathan Cleary (who had 22 runs in a grand final winning performance - Luai 7, Arey 9, Mam 9).

I see no reason to worry about how much Nicho does or does not run. Some criticisms of selection or quality perhaps, but very few players nail every run. Put them after faster play the balls and they will always look better.

Why didn't you tell us this @djhabib ?

 

[bort]

Haha
To clarify, DJ is Daniel Holdsworth... or is it DJ Habibsworth

 

[Sevshark]

Haha
To clarify, DJ is Daniel Holdsworth... or is it DJ Habibsworth

I look forward to Wade Graham captaining Samoa to World Cup victory

 

[Wizard]

I'm prepared to live by it. Someone like Moses went from running half to game manager over a few years at the Eels, Sj did it too. Nicho is in his 3rd year as a halfback now, I don't think it's much of a stretch to think he can develop that part of his game over the next few years.

I think Nicho has ran the ball fine since he's been with us. I certainly don't think Fitz is holding him back.

That’s fair and I hope he kills it at 7.. just don’t see him being an elite game manager composed enough to squeeze out games consistently

If he and the coach are dead set on him being the be all end all halfback that takes majority of kicks and calling plays left right and centre then he needs a running half next to him not someone like Trindall ..

The criticism last year with Moylan was Hynes was doing too much and getting sloppy when he doesn’t get his way and it could be the same thing this year.

 

[Wizard]

Adding to bold

Nicho ran 16 times to Trindall's 3 vs Tigers
He ran 23 times to Trindall's 13 vs Dogs
And 14 times to 7 against the Warriors

I thought calling him a running 5/8 was code for 'I inexplicably think Trindall is an elite game manager and don't think Hynes is or ever could be' not an actual criticism of amount of runs. If it is about him touching the ball less but running more... wild

If it is about when he has the chance to run - he gets plenty of late set ball as playmaker on one side, or as second receiver. We don't have some fixed structure that locks Hynes into passing to Trindall to decide whether to run or pass every set.

To your first point, SJ is a great example developed by exactly the same halves coach Nicho has... SJ may be playing better now but his transition started under DJ.
DJ has also been Trindall's halves coach for the past 5 years, since he was 19, and actually I think Flegg used to be 20s? He would have been Trindalls assistant coach his very first season with Cronulla too.
Obviously this assumes someone cares to give DJ any credit at all, but he did start on our coaching staff in 2016 and continue to gain more responsibility and was recently recommended for an International head coach role by the outgoing coach.

Other halves which play predominantly 7 but have a strong run game include former great JT (who excelled in both roles), fullback transitioner Hughes and, when things are going well, Nathan Cleary (who had 22 runs in a grand final winning performance - Luai 7, Arey 9, Mam 9).

I see no reason to worry about how much Nicho does or does not run. Some criticisms of selection or quality perhaps, but very few players nail every run. Put them after faster play the balls and they will always look better.

That’s exactly the point. Thank you for proving it

Hynes is kicking more, running more, passing more etc he’s almost too fit for his own good. Exact same repeat of last year with Moylan. The structure has not changed with Trindall and that structure has major faults because the majority of it weighs on Hynes

It’s not about Hynes touching it less it’s about Hynes getting the ball at the right times and having more energy to be better with it, it’s not that complicated to fix.

Those guys you listed at the bottom do not have the running game Hynes does, only except for Hughes but Hughes is partnered with a runner in Munster not a player like Trindall

We either wait a couple years before Hynes matures and gets his kicking game spot on or make it work sooner by tweaking the set-up with Tricky.. Tricky has played pretty good at 7 then he has at 6 and It would be good to see what Hynes looks like at 6 instead of 7

 

[Proud Shark]

That’s fair and I hope he kills it at 7.. just don’t see him being an elite game manager composed enough to squeeze out games consistently

If he and the coach are dead set on him being the be all end all halfback that takes majority of kicks and calling plays left right and centre then he needs a running half next to him not someone like Trindall ..

The criticism last year with Moylan was Hynes was doing too much and getting sloppy when he doesn’t get his way and it could be the same thing this year.

On the bold, he's not yet. But as before, I would have said the same about Moses and SJ and they are now.

My perspective on Fitz at the moment is that he's not dead set on anything. I think there's a plan for what works best with this squad now, which happens to be Hynes at 7 being the ball-dominant player. I think if a serious game managing half became available, that plan might change.

It's possible that your second scenario is the case, and that the long-term plan is still Dykes at 6. In which case Nicho as the 7 makes a lot of sense too.

I guess ultimately I believe that every team in the NRL is trying out variations of their combinations. That would include a variation where they've trained with Tricky in the more dominant role. For some reason that I'm not privy to, they decided what we have is the best course of action. If I was making decisions from the outside, I'd probably have switched them, but I recognise that even if we did, I don't think it changes much for the team, and I'd be doing it based of very limited info.

 

[Sparkles]

I'm prepared to live by it. Someone like Moses went from running half to game manager over a few years at the Eels, Sj did it too. Nicho is in his 3rd year as a halfback now, I don't think it's much of a stretch to think he can develop that part of his game over the next few years.

I think Nicho has ran the ball fine since he's been with us. I certainly don't think Fitz is holding him back.

Just a reminder that he's 27... another few years to perfect the art won't leave much time to apply it, unless he's one of the rare breed to play into his mid 30's

That’s exactly the point. Thank you for proving it

Hynes is kicking more, running more, passing more etc he’s almost too fit for his own good. Exact same repeat of last year with Moylan. The structure has not changed with Trindall and that structure has major faults because the majority of it weighs on Hynes

It’s not about Hynes touching it less it’s about Hynes getting the ball at the right times and having more energy to be better with it, it’s not that complicated to fix.

Those guys you listed at the bottom do not have the running game Hynes does, only except for Hughes but Hughes is partnered with a runner in Munster not a player like Trindall

We either wait a couple years before Hynes matures and gets his kicking game spot on or make it work sooner by tweaking the set-up with Tricky.. Tricky has played pretty good at 7 then he has at 6 and It would be good to see what Hynes looks like at 6 instead of 7

How do they define a run?

 

[Proud Shark]

Just a reminder that he's 27... another few years to perfect the art won't leave much time to apply it, unless he's one of the rare breed to play into his mid 30's

Yeah I'm running on the assumption of late starter later player. Kinda like Cody Walker.

 

[Sparkles]

Yeah I'm running on the assumption of late starter later player. Kinda like Cody Walker.

I liked the comment to be polite... Please don't bucket him with Cody

 

[Gumby]

David Fifita may leave the titans. Has until round 10 to lock in his extension.

That clubs a bigger mess than they were with Holbrook at the helm. Really not sure how they can get out of this any time soon.

 

[Proud Shark]

David Fifita may leave the titans. Has until round 10 to lock in his extension.

That clubs a bigger mess than they were with Holbrook at the helm. Really not sure how they can get out of this any time soon.

Wow. I don't see any way we could fit him in, but **** it would be lovely.

 

[Gumby]

Wow. I don't see any way we could fit him in, but **** it would be lovely.

Yeah we’re no chance. I see the raiders having another crack at him. Along with the dragons

 

[egg]

Yeah we’re no chance. I see the raiders having another crack at him. Along with the dragons

Ricky ahead of his time
Aiming for a squad of 22 forwards and 8 backs

 

[bort]

Lomax expected to seek an immediate release
Dragons will only consider a player swap.

Who else has excess or player on the outter?
Storm have NAS rumoured on the outter (or Welch… or both)

 

[HaroldBishop]

Lomax expected to seek an immediate release
Dragons will only consider a player swap.

Who else has excess or player on the outter?
Storm have NAS rumoured on the outter (or Welch… or both)

Haha good luck with that with Flanno as coach.

 

[Sevshark]

David Fifita may leave the titans. Has until round 10 to lock in his extension.

That clubs a bigger mess than they were with Holbrook at the helm. Really not sure how they can get out of this any time soon.

The fact he can activate the option, go shop himself to other teams and then still choose to stay at Titans if no-one offers him a better contract is absolutely insane.