The Press

[fancyman]

Did anyone listen to 2Ky this morning,
Gray Freeman was on it promoting the Sharks
move to Perth, but i have never heard Freeman say anything good
he is always sitting on the fence.
i normally dont bother with the show because of Slatter
but was in a sporty mood. so after that i went a got the
Telegraph, and a two page spread on our game, and nothing about the game
just on how Canterbury lost. and just a tiny line on Flanagan praised his player.
Paul Crawley and James Phelps must be the worse sport reporters and should look at doing something else like doing the weather.

 

[Mark^Bastard]

During the NYC game there was some quite positive comments from the commentary team (including Noddy). They mentioned that the future is looking bright with the NYC team doing well, Flanagan taking control of the NRL squad, and the development etc.

Gary Freeman honestly doesn't even do any research before opening his mouth. I reckon he has a timetable of where he has to be at what time for his job, and any time outside that is spent doing things away from football. I wonder if he even watches games. Every now and then he'll say something that just doesn't make sense unless he literally doesn't even follow League.

 

[BurgoShark]

The NRL can't kick anyone out anymore (Souths debacle) so relcation is the buzz.

If you look at the league there are:

- 7 "one team towns",
(Brisbane, Melbourne, Newcastle, Canberra, NZ, NQ, Gold Coast)

- 2 joint ventures (Wests Tigers and St. George-Illawarra)

- 6 teams with lots of money (Bulldogs, Penrith, Manly, Roosters, Souths, Parramatta)

- Cronulla

Unfortunately for the Sharks they have the conbination of money problems, lack of on-field success and poor crowd attendance, so they an easy target when people start talking relocation.

Winning some games would make a big difference - the NRL giving us Sunday afternoon home games would be good too.

 

[SharkySlats]

Penrith and Parramatta font have lots of money, they just have big leagues club that have heaps of pokies to pay the debts

 

[goodbyepenrithhellosharks]

The NRL can't kick anyone out anymore (Souths debacle) so relcation is the buzz.

If you look at the league there are:

- 7 "one team towns",
(Brisbane, Melbourne, Newcastle, Canberra, NZ, NQ, Gold Coast)

- 2 joint ventures (Wests Tigers and St. George-Illawarra)

- 6 teams with lots of money (Bulldogs, Penrith, Manly, Roosters, Souths, Parramatta)

- Cronulla

Unfortunately for the Sharks they have the conbination of money problems, lack of on-field success and poor crowd attendance, so they an easy target when people start talking relocation.

Winning some games would make a big difference - the NRL giving us Sunday afternoon home games would be good too.

From all reports the pennys are broker than us and have the smallest ground attendence in the nrl

 

[BurgoShark]

From all reports the pennys are broker than us and have the smallest ground attendence in the nrl

Thanks I didn't know that at all. I thought the "Panthers" club was still financial enough to bail the footy club out, but apparently not.

I don't wish ill-will on any club, but maybe this will deflect a bit from our money woes.

 

[Mark^Bastard]

Our crowds have actually been quite good this year and if you ask me we're on the up and up.

 

[HrvatskaDomovino]

There will be no order from the top for us to either relocate or to be kicked out. So the longer we survive (with the development it looks like we more than will) the greater the anguish for those who want to see our death as their wishes slip further and further from being fulfilled. So instead of feeling defensive embrace the death rider’s continual despair.

However, I'm not so sure the vision of five Sydney teams is a good one anyway. Rugby League has thrived on tribalism (e.g. conversation on the playground) in its growth. Even Super Rugby's push for conferences and more local derbies sees the logic of this. Many AFL and NRL teams have to move a lot games against out-of-town teams to NZ, NT etc. People I guess have a fixation with the whole National aspect of the competition but do we really need teams in Adelaide and Tasmania (at least Perth has some fertile ground) just to sooth their anxieties. Anyways, if expansion is to happen I reckon another Queensland and a Perth team will do at the expense of no one whilst leaving the Central Coast for a Sydney team to relocate if need be.

 

[slide rule]

Gary Freeman is a total dud, even for a kiwi.

 

[Murphy]

Thanks I didn't know that at all. I thought the "Panthers" club was still financial enough to bail the footy club out, but apparently not.

I don't wish ill-will on any club, but maybe this will deflect a bit from our money woes.

they in deep ****

 

[The Shire]

There will be no order from the top for us to either relocate or to be kicked out. So the longer we survive (with the development it looks like we more than will) the greater the anguish for those who want to see our death as their wishes slip further and further from being fulfilled. So instead of feeling defensive embrace the death rider’s continual despair.

However, I'm not so sure the vision of five Sydney teams is a good one anyway. Rugby League has thrived on tribalism (e.g. conversation on the playground) in its growth. Even Super Rugby's push for conferences and more local derbies sees the logic of this. Many AFL and NRL teams have to move a lot games against out-of-town teams to NZ, NT etc. People I guess have a fixation with the whole National aspect of the competition but do we really need teams in Adelaide and Tasmania (at least Perth has some fertile ground) just to sooth their anxieties. Anyways, if expansion is to happen I reckon another Queensland and a Perth team will do at the expense of no one whilst leaving the Central Coast for a Sydney team to relocate if need be.

any team outside of nsw or queensland will fail. it has been tried so many times and has failed. it always will fail. perth will never work.

our home crowds are above average for the nrl i believe. whats our average like 12K at least!

 

[Master Sharky]

Don't stress, we will always cop this untill we win a premiership or get some some cashflow.
And the cash is on its way with the new IC/Tv deal and our re-development proposal.
Then all we need is that damn premiership! That will shut them up.

 

[Shark68]

The NRL can't kick anyone out anymore (Souths debacle) so relcation is the buzz.

If you look at the league there are:

- 7 "one team towns",
(Brisbane, Melbourne, Newcastle, Canberra, NZ, NQ, Gold Coast)

- 2 joint ventures (Wests Tigers and St. George-Illawarra)

- 6 teams with lots of money (Bulldogs, Penrith, Manly, Roosters, Souths, Parramatta)

- Cronulla

Unfortunately for the Sharks they have the conbination of money problems, lack of on-field success and poor crowd attendance, so they an easy target when people start talking relocation.

Winning some games would make a big difference - the NRL giving us Sunday afternoon home games would be good too.

Bulldogs Lots of $$$$
Penrith are broke but can sell assets
Manly are Broke with no assets
Roosters are corporate strong
Souths have only Crow & Co topping them up limited $$$$ Souths Juniors have heaps of $$$$$
Parramatta are selling off assets ie property / 2 blues Club to keep a float to repay a massive debt, when that money is gone they will also be stuffed

When the NRL asked the Sharks to see how they would be in future Gallop was impressed the club produced a ten year graph and went through all clubs, the top Sydney Clubs 1 Dogs 2 Sharks 3 Roosters they proved that the rest would struggle

It was also stated by Gerry Harvey if a club was available to buy which club as a business man would you like to buy he said the Sharks and I would pay 20Million but they would be worth a lot more than that not bad as Crowe paid 3Million and it is still costing him

 

[dier]

Out of Penrith, Parramatta, Manly and Us. From the far as I know we are the only team doing something about the future for our money problems. Not just looking for a quick immediate fix.

Unfortunately, we are in the agenda of most of the media. Easy to pick on. Just ignore it, works for me.

 

[Murphy]

penrith have a potiental billionare wanting to buy in

 

[HrvatskaDomovino]

any team outside of nsw or queensland will fail. it has been tried so many times and has failed. it always will fail. perth will never work.

our home crowds are above average for the nrl i believe. whats our average like 12K at least!

I beg to differ:

Hobbs said they would point out the success, not the perceived failure, of their predecessor the Western Reds, which fielded a side in the NRL in 1995 and '96 and as the Perth Reds in Super League in 1997.

"We've spent a lot of money researching the sustainability and feasibility of a team here in WA with positive feedback," Hobbs said.

"We need to emphasise that the Western Reds didn't fail.

"Back then we had 18,000 registered members and an average crowd at the WACA of 17,500. We also had to pay for flights and accommodation of visiting teams, which was just ridiculous. And since then we've had a massive influx of people from strong league states which take up permanent residency in WA from Queensland, NSW, New Zealand and the UK.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/nr...indfall-chairman/story-fn7shzfu-1226028730783

 

[Mark^Bastard]

Bulldogs Lots of $$$$
Penrith are broke but can sell assets
Manly are Broke with no assets
Roosters are corporate strong
Souths have only Crow & Co topping them up limited $$$$ Souths Juniors have heaps of $$$$$
Parramatta are selling off assets ie property / 2 blues Club to keep a float to repay a massive debt, when that money is gone they will also be stuffed

When the NRL asked the Sharks to see how they would be in future Gallop was impressed the club produced a ten year graph and went through all clubs, the top Sydney Clubs 1 Dogs 2 Sharks 3 Roosters they proved that the rest would struggle

It was also stated by Gerry Harvey if a club was available to buy which club as a business man would you like to buy he said the Sharks and I would pay 20Million but they would be worth a lot more than that not bad as Crowe paid 3Million and it is still costing him

Have you got any sources for any of this info? It'd be very handy to have with arguing with people!

 

[fancyman]

Teams to relocate, its hard to relocate a team with a suburb tied to it, the only one I can think of, that is an easy relocate is, the Dragons, can move anywhere,
But Tigers should play all home games out of Cambeltown. Bulldogs to central coast,
relocate rosters or Souths, and shift Penrith to Richmond, and dragons full time in the Gong.

 

[Mark^Bastard]

Haha that's just bias. Dragons are very tied to their areas.

I think the Tigers are the most relocatable, because they already play at so many different areas in Sydney, and they have a lot of good will and marketability at the moment. They already feel like a 'freelance' team (can't think of a better word to use).

 

[since1967]

I have to laugh when i hear comments like this from a guy like Freeman (Tallis also). League ia a funny business, ex players get into rolls where really given there emplyment history know other organisation would consider employing them. Freeman and Tallis belted there heads against other blokes for 20 + years between them yet they are now the guys suggesting where the NRL should invest money? Only an idiot would listen to such advice.

Another example.... Would Paul Osbourne be considered for the CEO job with any other company outside the NRL? He wouldn't even get through the first round of interviews with anyone. Also our old Admin headed by Barry Pierce and sludge probably showed that ex league players are not the right people to be running the club.

I love the fact that our CEO and chairman has run a successful business of his own. He is not a Rugby League puppet like some of the others. I believe this is why he and sticky butted heads. Ricky was not experienced at cutting costs to run a successful business like Irvine has so far proved needed to be done. Another example of a good businessman at the helm who isn't a league player would be Todd Greenberg....