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We all know Teig is going to be your man next year. You can’t hide it.
Official Teig Wilton
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djhabib
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Nah I'm going to go a bit more exotic I think
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Colquhoun is spoken for.
JimBob
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Hazelton isn’t that exotic is he?
djhabib
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He is erotic
sharks2010
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Mate it's not funny anymore, it's affecting my forum experience
djhabib
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Ok HB x
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@bort ... carrying on the conversation about Teig and the narrative that Graham came in and fixed the problem...
I've looked at all of the tries scored against the Sharks and I'm actually going to take this one step further and say that in addition to Teig not being a turnstile, the forum trope "left side is the issue" wasn't true after round 5 when Teig was playing.
Since you are talking about "edge defence" in relation to Teig, I've excluded tries from kicks and broken play, and I've identified plays where Teig had to make a tackle in the middle and was at marker.
There were 10 games where the edge didn't concede a try while Teig was defending in it.
If we look at the 12 tries they conceded in the other 6 games, 4 of these were examples of the edge defence working and everyone being position, but one player missing a tackle. The remaining (blue) ones I would say are failures of the edge defence.
I'd say the left edge broke down 8 times in the 16 games Teig played, and 5 of these breakdowns were in the first 5 weeks.
Even if I was to accept that Wilton was culpable on every single one of those 8 plays in blue, it's not a terrible body of work, especially after round 5.
I would sum up the left edge from rounds 1-19 like this:
* Moylan let in some soft ones.
* The whole edge had some sync/teething issues in rounds 1-5.
* They were then pretty great for much of rounds 7-19, except for:
- trotting out garbage in magic round (just like the rest of the team), and
- capitulating late against the Storm (it was 38-6 prior to the left edge conceding a try)
I would go as far as to say that from round 7 to 19, the right edge was better than the left edge, and Teig was at least on par defensively with Nikora.
I've looked at all of the tries scored against the Sharks and I'm actually going to take this one step further and say that in addition to Teig not being a turnstile, the forum trope "left side is the issue" wasn't true after round 5 when Teig was playing.
Since you are talking about "edge defence" in relation to Teig, I've excluded tries from kicks and broken play, and I've identified plays where Teig had to make a tackle in the middle and was at marker.
There were 10 games where the edge didn't concede a try while Teig was defending in it.
If we look at the 12 tries they conceded in the other 6 games, 4 of these were examples of the edge defence working and everyone being position, but one player missing a tackle. The remaining (blue) ones I would say are failures of the edge defence.
I'd say the left edge broke down 8 times in the 16 games Teig played, and 5 of these breakdowns were in the first 5 weeks.
Even if I was to accept that Wilton was culpable on every single one of those 8 plays in blue, it's not a terrible body of work, especially after round 5.
I would sum up the left edge from rounds 1-19 like this:
* Moylan let in some soft ones.
* The whole edge had some sync/teething issues in rounds 1-5.
* They were then pretty great for much of rounds 7-19, except for:
- trotting out garbage in magic round (just like the rest of the team), and
- capitulating late against the Storm (it was 38-6 prior to the left edge conceding a try)
I would go as far as to say that from round 7 to 19, the right edge was better than the left edge, and Teig was at least on par defensively with Nikora.
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Of the 19 tries down the right edge during this same period.
- 6 times Nikora was at marker
- 2 were blatant defensive error from Nicho
- 11 were comparable to the 8 above in blue for Wilton.
This isn't meant to be some magic bullet to defend Wilton. I'm just trying to point out that conceding points in one part of the field can be a function of an error elsewhere in the line, or a middle not doing a good enough job of travelling across to cover as the 4-man after the second rower has made a (correct) decision to come in on the previous play to shut something down.
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I hope he can have a standout season next year.
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Fancy stats for Teig - 2023
Fairly consistent across the board. Great involvement inside his own 40 (less than the centres but comparable to the wingers and more than most middles).
Most of his "below average" games were wins, which probably just says that he wasn't required to do as much work in those games because the team had good field position and possession.
Fairly consistent across the board. Great involvement inside his own 40 (less than the centres but comparable to the wingers and more than most middles).
Most of his "below average" games were wins, which probably just says that he wasn't required to do as much work in those games because the team had good field position and possession.
Hopefully partnerships are forming strongly through preseason or could be tough year for Teig.
Could have Trindall on one side (don't think he played next to him at all in 2023) and a rookie centre on his other side in attack.
In D will have Trindall then the rookie, whose major criticism is defence.
Could have Trindall on one side (don't think he played next to him at all in 2023) and a rookie centre on his other side in attack.
In D will have Trindall then the rookie, whose major criticism is defence.
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Wilton grateful to be back in full swing
With a new appreciation of "how good it is to play rugby league" after his 2023 season was curtailed by a knee injury, Sharks forward Teig Wilton is back in full training and pumped for next year.A torn meniscus against the Warriors in round 20 forced the second-rower to undergo surgery and watch from afar as his teammates secured a finals berth.
Having started this pre-season in rehab, Wilton rejoined the main group about a week ago and is on track for the trial matches in February.
While Wilton cemented himself as a starter last season, largely keeping captain Wade Graham on the interchange in his final NRL campaign, the 24-year-old from Narooma will look to take another big step after the veteran's retirement.
"I'm feeling good and looking forward to next year. I'm back in full training with the team and it feels really good to be back out there amongst the group," Wilton said.
"(The injury) was difficult. It was definitely not what any player would want to do; build for the year and then miss the funnest, most important part of the year.
"It was tough - it was my first major injury - but it definitely gave me a new appreciation of what we get to do and how much I want to play finals footy."
There were silver linings in the injury for the hard-working Wilton, who has played 62 NRL games and scored 14 tries since his debut in 2020.
"You definitely see the game from a different perspective and can sit back and look at your role in more depth," he said of his time on the sidelines.
"When you're going week to week, you're reviewing then looking at the next week. I was definitely able to review myself at a closer level and (gained) a newfound gratitude of how good it is to play rugby league, really."
With the 2023 squad mostly remaining intact, Wilton can sense something special brewing in the Shire under the guidance of coach Craig Fitzgibbon.
"We're definitely looking to go to new heights in 2024 and I think we have the group to do it," he said. "I'll be back full and healthy (for the trials)."
Wilton has been impressed by the standard at training throughout the summer, with a host of emerging players showing their capabilities.
"We've got a good crew this year. We've got a lot of good young lads," he said.
"I don't really want to single anyone out because they've all been so good. If I name one I'd have to name a handful!"
Wilton grateful to be back in full swing
Sharks forward Teig Wilton is back in full training and pumped for 2024.
HaroldBishop
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Looking forward to watching Teig next year. I reckon 2025 is when we'll see his best if he's following the same trajectory as Brit.Wilton grateful to be back in full swing
With a new appreciation of "how good it is to play rugby league" after his 2023 season was curtailed by a knee injury, Sharks forward Teig Wilton is back in full training and pumped for next year.
A torn meniscus against the Warriors in round 20 forced the second-rower to undergo surgery and watch from afar as his teammates secured a finals berth.
Having started this pre-season in rehab, Wilton rejoined the main group about a week ago and is on track for the trial matches in February.
While Wilton cemented himself as a starter last season, largely keeping captain Wade Graham on the interchange in his final NRL campaign, the 24-year-old from Narooma will look to take another big step after the veteran's retirement.
"I'm feeling good and looking forward to next year. I'm back in full training with the team and it feels really good to be back out there amongst the group," Wilton said.
"(The injury) was difficult. It was definitely not what any player would want to do; build for the year and then miss the funnest, most important part of the year.
"It was tough - it was my first major injury - but it definitely gave me a new appreciation of what we get to do and how much I want to play finals footy."
There were silver linings in the injury for the hard-working Wilton, who has played 62 NRL games and scored 14 tries since his debut in 2020.
"You definitely see the game from a different perspective and can sit back and look at your role in more depth," he said of his time on the sidelines.
"When you're going week to week, you're reviewing then looking at the next week. I was definitely able to review myself at a closer level and (gained) a newfound gratitude of how good it is to play rugby league, really."
With the 2023 squad mostly remaining intact, Wilton can sense something special brewing in the Shire under the guidance of coach Craig Fitzgibbon.
"We're definitely looking to go to new heights in 2024 and I think we have the group to do it," he said. "I'll be back full and healthy (for the trials)."
Wilton has been impressed by the standard at training throughout the summer, with a host of emerging players showing their capabilities.
"We've got a good crew this year. We've got a lot of good young lads," he said.
"I don't really want to single anyone out because they've all been so good. If I name one I'd have to name a handful!"
Wilton grateful to be back in full swing
Sharks forward Teig Wilton is back in full training and pumped for 2024.www.sharks.com.au
djhabib
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Hopefully he swings himself to the super league
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All Sharks' fans, all mates.
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Thought he did pretty well last night. 44 tackles, 105m.