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I think most of us are expecting Rudolf to be a top 17 player next year but definitely a question about where still. I might try watch replay of the Jets at some stage as I still have only seen him a little bit myself.

Could see him and Williams job sharing but not sure if we'd share Mags and Rudy at 13 and play Williams at prop, hence why I haven't brought him up in this current discussion.

You can see all the contenders go around next Sunday in the State Cup GF on FTA.
 

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Far out, I really didn’t get that impression

Pretty thin for clear starter options really - Mags, Williams or one of Prior/Fifita/Rudolf. Hence all the chat on here about Matterson and Arrow

Morris obviously rates Mags as he played him ahead of Boogs a couple times. He was solid but I certainly didn't watch him and think 'that's 13 sorted for next year'.
 

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Pretty thin for clear starter options really - Mags, Williams or one of Prior/Fifita/Rudolf. Hence all the chat on here about Matterson and Arrow

Morris obviously rates Mags as he played him ahead of Boogs a couple times. He was solid but I certainly didn't watch him and think 'that's 13 sorted for next year'.
I'd be going with Williams and telling his defense needs to get better. Or go Rudolf.

Just not Magoulis, seems slow and meh.
 
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Rudolf is a beast - runs and tackles with aggression, and to think he's back from an ACL injury makes you think the sky is the limit with this guy. Plus he showed some nice short passes yesterday.

He's my smokey for the 13 if he has a big off season.

I do like Williams but I like his impact off the bench. Then again Rudolf off the bench will be awesome too.
 

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Rudolf is a beast - runs and tackles with aggression, and to think he's back from an ACL injury makes you think the sky is the limit with this guy. Plus he showed some nice short passes yesterday.

He's my smokey for the 13 if he has a big off season.

I do like Williams but I like his impact off the bench. Then again Rudolf off the bench will be awesome too.

Agree totally with your comments about this bloke. He's a tall, rangy, athletic sort of a build that would be at home either in the middle or out wide. Def has some ball playing skills and with a full pre-season behind him I reckon he's more than a smokey for the #13 jumper.

What really impresses me is his desire to be 'in the game'. Loves being on the ball in both attack and defence.

We are blessed with some great emerging young forwards.
 
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And he doesn't look lazy in defense, he scrambles, wants to make those tackles. Wants to hurts people too. We need that. With him Uele and Williams our aggression should be better next year.

He would have played first grade this year if he didn't do his ACL
 

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A professional NRL team should definitely know to adjust their play based on certain circumstances, including non-ball playing lock to ball-playing lock.
Plenty of NRL teams adjust all the time, main intentional example is using a different style of hooker off the bench (Jayden vs Seg). Unintentional adjustment is common too if injury in spine mid-game, harder to adjust to as not planned but still need to change to suit.

I'd rather them know the game shifts slightly when Mags is on vs Williams than try and shoehorn Wilton in before he is ready or move Graham around. Sorensen has shown some other elements in his game in Cup we don't really see in NRL but he'd have to step up a lot to be able to play that role in NRL regularly.

It would be better if we had a more complimentary player to work with Mags but currently we don't.

I think deliberately making that type of change would be making things too complicated. Either you have 2-3 guys who can train in that role and are able to do it well, or you just don’t play that way IMO. Deliberately changing the structure mid-game would be asking for trouble.
 

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I think deliberately making that type of change would be making things too complicated. Either you have 2-3 guys who can train in that role and are able to do it well, or you just don’t play that way IMO. Deliberately changing the structure mid-game would be asking for trouble.
It complicates things sure, but the complication is worth it to get the most out of your roster. To help simplify matters a little is why I said I'd start Williams so early game when it is generally less expansive he is on and use Billy for the rest.

To me playing Wilton before he is ready or moving Graham is more disruptive than having one ball playing lock and one non-ball playing lock. You definitely don't want to rotate them every 10 minutes but you don't want to do that anyway.
All things being equal you play Wilton over Williams for this role but at this stage they aren't equal, Williams is much more NRL competent. The difference is likely significant enough that you make it work with the different styles.

I doubt the difference between Billy and Willy is a 100% different game plan, unlikely we are using our lock to do a huge amount of ball playing.

If you're playing prop (arguably the most 'simple' position in offence) for example you need to know the timing you can expect from two different halves, and the hooker (and bench hooker if there is one), and which other middles (because there is 2 or 3 on the bench too... and more in the squad) might pass to you if you run in support and which lines they like to run so you don't get in the way supporting. You learn how to play with your team.

In NRL you are training most days with these players if you can't figure out that Billy will likely play it on to you and Willy might but less likely then you're in trouble.
If Chad or Johnson look out and see Billy they should be able to call a play that everyone knows that involves him that would be marginally less effective with Willy.

Anyone ball playing should, wherever possible, let the players they intend to work with have a rough idea what they are planning anyway. If Billy is on and says 'hey mate I'll hit you back on the inside' you know what he wants from you, if he says nothing you support (and always be ready for the ball) but you assume there isn't anything specific happening.
 

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Pretty thin for clear starter options really - Mags, Williams or one of Prior/Fifita/Rudolf. Hence all the chat on here about Matterson and Arrow

Morris obviously rates Mags as he played him ahead of Boogs a couple times. He was solid but I certainly didn't watch him and think 'that's 13 sorted for next year'.
You should watch the jets semi against st George on ninenow.com. Mags plays 5/8th and gets MOM. I realise it’s NSW cup, but the guy puts in 110% on every play, has a good kicking and passing game, and seems to have footy smarts in the way Ennis did. He could turn out to be a very good, valuable first grade player, while never making rep.

And THB, our team could use his attitude next year. He’s a bloody terrier.
 

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You should watch the jets semi against st George on ninenow.com. Mags plays 5/8th and gets MOM. I realise it’s NSW cup, but the guy puts in 110% on every play, has a good kicking and passing game, and seems to have footy smarts in the way Ennis did. He could turn out to be a very good, valuable first grade player, while never making rep.

And THB, our team could use his attitude next year. He’s a bloody terrier.

Yeah interested in watching all the players, Mags right up there with Rudolf, Ronnie, Katoa and Kennedy.

Definitely need a couple 110% all game every game players in the NRL side. Huge part of Lewys game we were missing this year
 

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Yeah interested in watching all the players, Mags right up there with Rudolf, Ronnie, Katoa and Kennedy.

Definitely need a couple 110% all game every game players in the NRL side. Huge part of Lewys game we were missing this year

Only saw a bit of last few games. Where is Ferris? Looked ok to me, but havent seen enough. Any potential?

Re next year....Williams needs to get rid of a few mistakes for me. Does some good things but this negates the good
 

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You should watch the jets semi against st George on ninenow.com. Mags plays 5/8th and gets MOM. I realise it’s NSW cup, but the guy puts in 110% on every play, has a good kicking and passing game, and seems to have footy smarts in the way Ennis did. He could turn out to be a very good, valuable first grade player, while never making rep.

And THB, our team could use his attitude next year. He’s a bloody terrier.

yeh mags may just be the perfect 14 for us next year

not many minutes but come on and change a game when needed

rudolph needs to be in the squad as well
 

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Teig Wilton apparently under 20 kangaroos captain

Called it :)

On Tully - he was actually in the summer squad for the SG Ball team this year. I think he’s born in 2002 so will still be u18 next year, but will confirm that for sure and add him to the appropriate 2020 thread.
 
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i think so, i can see him on the bench next year for us

Well if we lose Gallen, Prior and Bakuya based on most common rumours we need to bring in some forwards.

Seems like Rudolf, Billy and Teig are the main options.
 
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