Round 2, 2012 NRL Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks v Newcastle Knights @ Toyota Stadium, Sunday, March 11, 2:00pm

[Mark^Bastard]

Forget the rule book, do you think it -should- be a try? I think it should. If you were watching the sport for the first time and saw that from multiple angles at full speed you'd be saying it's a scoring play for all money.

He was still moving while he stretched out. He only came to a stop when the ball was over the line.

His ball carrying arm did touch the ground but it's not like he craweled or wiggled. He bounced from natural momentum.

It's just hard to cop after what happened at the other end.

 

[Mark^Bastard]

they always find reasons to deny tries no matter which team it is.

They found a reason to disallow that try, they found a reason to allow the dropped ball from Jr Sau.

 

[josh11223344]

It's always inconsistant, there are so many similar tries that go to video ref every season but there are always different calls. So frustrating.

 

[sharks2010]

Forget the rule book, do you think it -should- be a try? I think it should. If you were watching the sport for the first time and saw that from multiple angles at full speed you'd be saying it's a scoring play for all money.

He was still moving while he stretched out. He only came to a stop when the ball was over the line.

His ball carrying arm did touch the ground but it's not like he craweled or wiggled. He bounced from natural momentum.

It's just hard to cop after what happened at the other end.

nope I still don't think it was a try. He promoted the ball by reaching out for the try. Plus he should of passed it to j mo

 

[goodbyepenrithhellosharks]

IMO...if that was not a double movement then wtf is.....perfect example

 

[sharks2010]

IMO...if that was not a double movement then wtf is.....perfect example

This!!!

 

[ABshark]

Rugby has got the double-movement issue right. You can place the ball in any direction when you are tackled, but you only get one crack at it.

 

[josh11223344]

I like that, makes it simple and if there are different interpretations coming from the refs they really are dumber than they look!

 

[Steve Kneen]

Steve kneen, I'm part of the problem? Cause I went out to the game today? And screamed my lungs out till the 80th minute? Cause I'm a member and have supported the sharks my entire life. Yeah I'm the problem, I'm not accepting mediocrity, I'm saying that before everyone on this forum starts killing themselves, look at the bigger picture.

You seem to be a hypocrite, you say me and thresher shark can't accept other views yet you can't accept mine, whateva mate, we are all sharks supporters here, im doing my bit, and if I have to be the guy that stands up and defend the boys while you u lot sit back o your expert panel at home judging the team at round 2, then fine I'll be that guy.

Was my no swearing post good enough?

I am not someone to be a smug, but looks like I was right about Carney being at 5/8, so I must have far more of an idea than you have. No use defending anything, this is a 1st grade side, they can defend themselves, and they know if they haven't played well. I only identified something that needed to be changed and you turn that into criticism and start swearing and carrying on about people "cutting their wrists" when it was obvious deficiencies needed to be addressed and Flanagan has realised it, but you didn't. It is all about putting the best side out there with the best chance to win. Defend what you like, and yes looks like I am an expert. :cheers

 

[Sir Chadley]

You all have to get over the double movement issue. Bukuya and Best were definite double movements rule book or no rule book. If those tries had been awarded against us we'd be blowing up big time.

 

[stormshark]

You all have to get over the double movement issue. Bukuya and Best were definite double movements rule book or no rule book. If those tries had been awarded against us we'd be blowing up big time.

Agree both no trys in any unbiased view!

 

[josh11223344]

You all have to get over the double movement issue. Bukuya and Best were definite double movements rule book or no rule book. If those tries had been awarded against us we'd be blowing up big time.

I'm over it, never made a big deal out of it but imo whatever team it is that should be a try. Obvious momentum involved.

 

[Sir Chadley]

I'm over it, never made a big deal out of it but imo whatever team it is that should be a try. Obvious momentum involved.

No momentum at all Josh in both of those. Not sure where you see that. Both players were stopped and then they reached out. They only went to the video ref against the Knights because of all the furore from the week before. Haines was going to award the penalty until he thought better of it.

"never made a big thing out of it?". You mentioned it at least three times in three different threads! No worries though mate, we all wish they had been tries but I think the Refs got them right for a change.

 

[sharks2010]

Yeah I'm with you chad. He promoted the ball after it hit the ground and if that was given a try against us I would blow up delux

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

I'm over it, never made a big deal out of it but imo whatever team it is that should be a try. Obvious momentum involved.

No momentum mate. Momentum would be if he landed a foot shy of the line and bounced over, the fact is, he stretched his arm out after the ball has been on the ground in the tackle.

IMO that leaves alot of loop holes to the idea of a complete tackle though doesnt it, its a different call to a mid field tackle where players wrestle and carry on when a player is laying down, ball and ball carrying arm on the ground. But come to 1 foot out, and as soon as he is on the deck, theres no a 'held' call made, but if he continues to the line it gets called back. I think the ref needs to watch these tackles, and call HELD at the time his arm touches the ground

 

[josh11223344]

imo he bounced with the momentum then reached for the line, it was a no try by the law if it is when the arm touches the ground but I think it's stupid.

I'm sick of this arguement as obviously everone else has seen it differently

 

[Mark^Bastard]

No momentum? BS, go watch it again. Had heaps of momentum, bounced, but also stretched out.

It was the act of bouncing that made the ball arm touch the ground.

 

[Jigsaw]

Someone post that Peachey Try scoring video... there is a try he scores that is way worse then what we have seen from Best and JB the last 2 weeks. And i STILL feel Peach had momentum in that try as well.

 

[Sixgill]

So even if you have momentum, you're not allowed to promote the ball?

Remember when you made up the best games at school that generally had very few rules, and then some goose came along and started making up rules until the game lost all it's fun?

League seems to be getting very rule focused. There are so many of them that need to be simplified, and quickly.

The double movement is one of them.

 

[Mark^Bastard]

Couldn't agree more mate.

Forget the rules, look at the try they got and the one we were disallowed, it's freaking bull****.