Predicted Round 1 team

[Sparkles]

Who is my halfback?

Not yours personally mate.

 

[bort]

I'm trying to reconcile how your halfback can confidently be handed the 13 Jersey on a regular basis.

If any of the halves are being handed the 13 jersey it is probably just to pass it along to McInnes

 

[HaroldBishop]

Call him drunken Ira Hayes
He won't answer anymore
Not the whiskey drinking Indian
Or the marine that went to war

 

[Sir Chadley]

Call him drunken Ira Hayes
He won't answer anymore
Not the whiskey drinking Indian
Or the marine that went to war

What!!!! That sounds dangerously close to poetry HB.

 

[HaroldBishop]

What!!!! That sounds dangerously close to poetry HB.

Walking the line tonight whilst wearing black.

 

[Sutty]

McInnes sounds like Mick Ennis when you say it out loud so maybe he can do long kicking for us like Ennis did in 2015 and its a secret talent of his or some ****.

From the little I have seen of Trindall I don't know if he is a first grade starter quality yet or like just slightly below that tier where if he plays there will always be whinging about dropping him for a NSW Cup frenchman or whatever.

Either way I think Hynes will be goal kicking for us (He's not great at it though), unless we wanna quickly sign Rhyse Martin from Leeds.

 

[bort]

From the little I have seen of Trindall I don't know if he is a first grade starter quality yet or like just slightly below that tier where if he plays there will always be whinging about dropping him for a NSW Cup frenchman or whatever.

You’re clearly not remembering all the games where he wasn’t named Chad Townsend which got some so hyped up like he should have been our starter halfway through 2020

 

[Sutty]

This is the way

 

[bort]

First look: Halves

The halves are amongst the most crucial players on the field for any NRL team. That being the case, with the NRL season less than six weeks away, we take a look at the Sharks squad and the players in contention to wear the six and seven jerseys for coach Craig Fitzgibbon and his team in 2022.

www.sharks.com.au

Mentions Trindally (and Metcalf) before Moyza
Once again mentions Miller is training at half, fullback and hooker.

 

[Jaz]

Surely Metcalf isn't really in contention. I was stoked when he returned from Manly, but now that he's leaving again he should be considered depth only.

2nd choice fullback
4th-5th choice in the halves

 

[bort]

Surely Metcalf isn't really in contention. I was stoked when he returned from Manly, but now that he's leaving again he should be considered depth only.

2nd choice fullback
4th-5th choice in the halves

Yeah I think I'd be trying to train him up as WK backup

I guess if he wins the halves spot he must be looking pretty damn good so may as well use him there to improve our results (while we mourn his loss). But realistically I don't see him beating Moylan and Trindall for it.

 

[Gards]

It's Rugby League not NASA - half backs aren't exactly orchestrating and executing a coordinated landing on Mars

They spend alot of their time throwing inside balls and kicking to fullbacks on the full. Sometimes they gotta point and yell at some dumb lump to run the ball a bit more to the other side of the field. It's a simple sport

And in teams with good hookers the 9 shoulders alot of the organisational stuff

When the ball is being carried outta of their own end on kick returns the backs and forwards don't have to be told to run straight and cart it back up. The halfback prob wont do much in that set until the 5th tackle

But I have spent alot of years watching Robbo & Chad strut around so you will have to forgive my bitterness

Halfback play isn't that creative these days, there's only so much you can scheme, plan and structure on a footy field and improvisation is often frowned upon because the 7 is supposed to be 'solid' and directing the team around not chancing their arms or working outside the game plan or structure.

Players like Moylan won't be a 7 not because they can't pass a ball or yell instructions, it's because outside of a running game they are complete mongs and like to play before they think

There are ofcourse halfbacks that football skills and abilities are at a higher level (running, passing, kicking, tackling ect.) If they are poor at these things it won't matter how good of an organizer or general they are, they will be a liability. Trindall has the potential to be good at all of these things, I can live with him taking some more time to play the director role. Heaps of senior players around to help in the mean time

Cronk for instance while a good leader that was listened to and respected and knew how he wanted a game to go was also an excellent all round footballer.

Shaun Johnson played the game a different way in 7, had a different aura and persona, had the skills and his off the cuff style could be great on one day but ultimately inconsistent and difficult to reproduce week in week out. His organisational skills were almost irrelevant in light of how he plays as an individual

 

[BurgoShark]

It's Rugby League not NASA - half backs aren't exactly orchestrating and executing a coordinated landing on Mars

Some might argue that a moon landing has a higher probability of success than getting Rugby League players to follow instructions.

 

[Gards]

Some might argue that a moon landing has a higher probability of success than getting Rugby League players to follow instructions.

I ROFL every time I hear Joey Johns crap on about how halfbacks have to account for the curvature of the earth when they are kicking, fmd really mate lol does the average footy player even know the earth is round ?

 

[BurgoShark]

I ROFL every time I hear Joey Johns crap on about how halfbacks have to account for the curvature of the earth when they are kicking, fmd really mate lol does the average footy player even know the earth is round ?

It's a coaching thing. Coaches teach forwards that they are not allowed to pass or think, and they teach halves that forwards are idiots. After being coached this way for all of their life the forwards have never learned to see the big picture, the halves have been conditioned to think that they are the only ones who know the secret sauce, and all of them think that this is the only possible way to play.

I had a local senior coach tell me recently that the only time a junior front rower or second rower should pass the ball on gameday is during the warm up.

 

[stormshark]

Absolutely ridiculous, one of my Huge hates. Kids going to ground with the ball, when a pass is on, regardless of a players playing position ... and hookers/halves looking backwards, setting up plays before the play is dead. Stupid stupid Jnr rep coaching of otherwise creative players, although i think it might be starting to change, with the NRL style freeing up a bit..

 

[BurgoShark]

Absolutely ridiculous, one of my Huge hates. Kids going to ground with the ball, when a pass is on, regardless of a players playing position ... and hookers/halves looking backwards, setting up plays before the play is dead. Stupid stupid Jnr rep coaching of otherwise creative players, although i think it might be starting to change, with the NRL style freeing up a bit..

He also told me that if my team structure involved my second rowers being expected to sometimes pass the ball - that is touch footy structure and I am hurting the players' development by having them play like that. Fun times

It will take at least 15 years or more before we see meaningful change imo. Too many dinosaurs in decision making roles.

 

[Sparkles]

He also told me that if my team structure involved my second rowers being expected to sometimes pass the ball - that is touch footy structure and I am hurting the players' development by having them play like that. Fun times

It will take at least 15 years or more before we see meaningful change imo. Too many dinosaurs in decision making roles.

Could be right mate. Although we're seeing the fullback become the primary playmaker, halfbacks playing lock and locks playing like halfbacks... Anything could happen next

 

[BurgoShark]

Could be right mate. Although we're seeing the fullback become the primary playmaker, halfbacks playing lock and locks playing like halfbacks... Anything could happen next

Yeah - change/shift is a thing. There seems to be this attitude that the way NRL is played now is the only way or the best way to play. People ignore the fact that in 100 years the game has been played probably 40 different ways under dozens of different sets of rules. It will change again. Why should any player be coached only the way it is now?

Think of a player like Billy Mags. I know he couldn't put it together at NRL level - but can you imagine having to defend against someone like that in the local under 16's? A prop who can bring players under, pass at the line, kick like a half, etc. What a nightmare - and what a travesty it would have been for someone to grab him at 14 and tell him that sort of stuff is not his go because he plays in the middle.

 

[Proud Shark]

So I know this doesn't make anything set in stone, but I thought it was interesting. Players did a photo shoot for ch9 and the gallery is on the sharks site. Had players in their numbered jerseys. Many as expected, McInnes 13, Finucane 10 and some other regs. But interesting to see Hynes in the 7.