NRL SHARKS FOREVER SUPERCOACH

[Sevshark]

I might swap k Bradley or Burbo into my 2rf reserves for jed and put Schiller into ctw again

 

[BurgoShark]

Originally had Mcinnes in my starters but eventually went with my head over my heart.

Was very emotional

Have said this many times in my analysis so not really giving anything away here...

Sharks middles typically don't make good fantasy/SC players because they don't play big minutes and usually have a 4-forward bench... with the following exceptions:

- Hunt plays bigger minutes with high involvement when he starts games that BHU isn't playing, and
- Kaufusi's involvement is highest when he starts the game paired with BHU, and lowest when he starts without BHU
- McInnes plays more when Finucane is out, and

Red block is Hunt starting without BHU and round 9 is the game BHU got hurt in. He also would have had a very high score in the finals game (his raw stats in the finals game were similar to his round 12 game).

Round 25 was a result of a short stint with very high possession.

 

[Sparkles]

Have said this many times in my analysis so not really giving anything away here...

Sharks middles typically don't make good fantasy/SC players because they don't play big minutes and usually have a 4-forward bench... with the following exceptions:

- Hunt plays bigger minutes with high involvement when he starts games that BHU isn't playing, and
- Kaufusi's involvement is highest when he starts the game paired with BHU
- McInnes plays more when Finucane is out, and

Red block is Hunt starting without BHU. he also would have had a very high score in the finals game (but that isn't shown here). His raw stats in the finals game were similar to his round 12 game.

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That's the perfect representation of the info we were talking about earlier. So if BHU goes down we buy Hunt. Easy!
One application would be to see which forwards lift when their teammate missed games through Origin, for example. That's nice and predictive and identifies trade targets.

 

[BurgoShark]

That's the perfect representation of the info we were talking about earlier. So if BHU goes down we buy Hunt. Easy!
One application would be to see which forwards lift when their teammate missed games through Origin, for example. That's nice and predictive and identifies trade targets.

Only if Hunt starts though.

If Kaufusi and Rudolf are the starters it likely means that Hunt will be playing his normal role. He will still have high ppm but won't get enough minutes to get a high score.

Could alternatively buy Oregon and flip when BHU returns. Chances are that with the increased minutes he will hover around the 40-50 point mark. Not a huge money-earner but you might get $50-60k out of him. Good thing is he won't go down unless he cops an injury. He is basically the same guy every week. More minutes = more points with him.

 

[Sevshark]

Cnk in doubt for rd1

 

[bort]

Cnk in doubt for rd1

I think it's more than in doubt, think he's expected to miss at least 3 rounds.
If I end up a bit cap stuck I'd consider grabbing their backup FB, at least he is a dual for CTW. Not ideal though and would come with hoping* CNK actually misses longer than expected.

*I like CNK so that hope would be very much SC only

 

[Sevshark]

I think it's more than in doubt, think he's expected to miss at least 3 rounds.
If I end up a bit cap stuck I'd consider grabbing their backup FB, at least he is a dual for CTW. Not ideal though and would come with hoping* CNK actually misses longer than expected.

*I like CNK so that hope would be very much SC only

Yeah I was thinking putting in their backup might be a decent option instead of just a filler.

Tbh I've completely changed my team around since the one I posted this morning haha

 

[BurgoShark]

I wonder why Tuaupiki is dual. Did they give him 5 minutes on the wing one game or something? I've never seen him play anywhere else but fullback. He's too small for wing/centre. If they actually played him there I'd imagine it would turn out equally well as when the Dolphins put Nikorima in the centres.

I understand the use in SC. Just seems an on decision to make a guy dual in a spot he never plays.

 

[Proud Shark]

I wonder why Tuaupiki is dual. Did they give him 5 minutes on the wing one game or something? I've never seen him play anywhere else but fullback. He's too small for wing/centre. If they actually played him there I'd imagine it would turn out equally well as when the Dolphins put Nikorima in the centres.

I understand the use in SC. Just seems an on decision to make a guy dual in a spot he never plays.

Most rookie fullbacks/ctws seem to be duel. Iro is fullback available too. Often the rookie 2rfs are ctw available too.

 

[bort]

Most rookie fullbacks/ctws seem to be duel. Iro is fullback available too. Often the rookie 2rfs are ctw available too.

They did get a bit more strict on it last season though, were less generous. This is a bit of a weird one.
Iro has played internationals at FB so I think that’s easier to justify

 

[BurgoShark]

I'm starting to feel like Salmon is a bit of a trap too. He's going to have a low base as 2RF and very little potential for big scores compared to other CTWs. His price has been bumped up by a couple of bigger games where he played five-eighth and scored tries in each. His highest score without scoring a try was 40 in 54 minutes, and usually in half a game he scored 30 or less.

Feels to me like he is one of those "good at footy, not good for Supercoach" players.

I liked him in draft as an dually bench option to avoid burning trades on bye weekends. Not sold on his value in classic though.

 

[Proud Shark]

I'm starting to feel like Salmon is a bit of a trap too. He's going to have a low base as 2RF and very little potential for big scores compared to other CTWs. His price has been bumped up by a couple of bigger games where he played five-eighth and scored tries in each. His highest score without scoring a try was 40 in 54 minutes, and usually in half a game he scored 30 or less.

Feels to me like he is one of those "good at footy, not good for Supercoach" players.

I liked him in draft as an dually bench option to avoid burning trades on bye weekends. Not sold on his value in classic though.

The benefit for Salmon is his potential to have a high floor. If he gets 50-60 minutes, he should get 40 points as a minimum through tackles, runs and the occasional attacking stat. If he does this, he will make money, which is the goal. If he ends up with two good 60-70 games in a row he should jump up in value quite a bit and be ripe for the sell.

 

[BurgoShark]

The benefit for Salmon is his potential to have a high floor. If he gets 50-60 minutes, he should get 40 points as a minimum through tackles, runs and the occasional attacking stat. If he does this, he will make money, which is the goal. If he ends up with two good 60-70 games in a row he should jump up in value quite a bit and be ripe for the sell.

It's still a risk though. He split time pretty close to 50/50 with Mann on the weekend, and would have scored ~30 points.

I guess if he is going to get 30 every week without fail it's unlikely his value goes go down, so he's safe to carry based on potential to go up.

 

[bort]

Apparently Curran was a bit ill in second trial too, which gives me a bit less confidence again in Salmon.
Curran's intention there was to play lock, while it might not happen it is possible Salmon and Mann were fighting for the 14 in the trial.

If Salmon is named 13 I'll definitely consider still, but more due to lack of other cheap options available.

 

[Proud Shark]

Apparently Curran was a bit ill in second trial too, which gives me a bit less confidence again in Salmon.
Curran's intention there was to play lock, while it might not happen it is possible Salmon and Mann were fighting for the 14 in the trial.

If Salmon is named 13 I'll definitely consider still, but more due to lack of other cheap options available.

Yeah I probably wont touch him if named at 14, but will take the risk if he's named to start.

It's still a risk though. He split time pretty close to 50/50 with Mann on the weekend, and would have scored ~30 points.

I guess if he is going to get 30 every week without fail it's unlikely his value goes go down, so he's safe to carry based on potential to go up.

All the cheapies are a risk really. Could take Bostock and he averages 30. Having a forward in your ctw is worth the risk I think for me if he starts.

 

[Sparkles]

Are there any 'certainty' cheapies this year? I'm struggling to find any standouts

 

[Proud Shark]

Are there any 'certainty' cheapies this year? I'm struggling to find any standouts

I'm pretty confident in the FRF options. Outside of the Bostock seems most likely. If there were less options the raiders ones would be a bank, but there are too many to fit into 2-3 spots.

 

[bort]

Are there any 'certainty' cheapies this year? I'm struggling to find any standouts

Hughes seems as close as you can get but as a prop it is not a high ceiling anyway. Nothing like Hopgood was last year.

Strange if he locks down a 6 given how week that position is OR you could squeeze him into CTW, would have to make the vast majority of teams. But again not a likely high ceiling.

If you go a bit more expensive with your definition I don't really see how you couldn't have Arthars. Bostock another but we saw better form from Arthar's in GF than we have ever seen from Bostock in an NRL game.

 

[Sparkles]

Hughes seems as close as you can get but as a prop it is not a high ceiling anyway. Nothing like Hopgood was last year.

Strange if he locks down a 6 given how week that position is OR you could squeeze him into CTW, would have to make the vast majority of teams. But again not a likely high ceiling.

If you go a bit more expensive with your definition I don't really see how you couldn't have Arthars. Bostock another but we saw better form from Arthar's in GF than we have ever seen from Bostock in an NRL game.

Sounds like we're on the same trail. Stange makes me nervous because of Sticky... he could play the lights out for three weeks and get benched.
I like Arthars, I've had him in from the beginning.

Can't wait for TLT Pt2...!

 

[Sparkles]

I'm pretty confident in the FRF options. Outside of the Bostock seems most likely. If there were less options the raiders ones would be a bank, but there are too many to fit into 2-3 spots.

Who besides Hughes youu thinking for FRF?