NRL Round 21 2011: Glory Bound Round: Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks @ Brisbane Broncos - Friday 29 July 7:35PM
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Might of overdone it on the overs. I'd suggest that each "over" was an different reason why we are crap. The message was the same but the point's were different. Probably because I wasn't feeling the love, I crave the negative attention didn't you know?
Any chance you could elaborate?
He's a ****ing standout in my opinion. He's going to make the odd mistake and does have size issues but **** he has a go. If every player put in like Gardner then I doubt Brisbane put 46 on us the other night. Got to love a competitor. Surround him with players like Frizell, Peachey, Mills and Townsend and the future is bright. The problem is how reliant we are on him. I'm pretty sure other teams have figured out he is our go to man in that backline. The poor kharnt has a target on him and still manages linebreak after tackle bust.
Beejay
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late in the game when the ball was kicked to Gards he just booted it off the volley and almost regathered it 50 mtrs into their half.
When Gards smashed Beale over the sideline
err ive forgotten others
I remember that one! (well now). Anyone would think that I wasn't at the game haha.
I still think there are belief issues and the young blokes have some pretty poor periods where they lose focus, especially when Gal isn't there.
Then again, there are different problems when Gal is there too- mostly him doing too much and the others not taking enough responsibility.
I'm looking forward to the tenacity and relentless competitiveness De Gois will bring next year because its something that we sometimes miss. He throws his body in to his work as hard when his team is leading by forty as he does when his team's behind by six with a minute to go.
Then again, there are different problems when Gal is there too- mostly him doing too much and the others not taking enough responsibility.
I'm looking forward to the tenacity and relentless competitiveness De Gois will bring next year because its something that we sometimes miss. He throws his body in to his work as hard when his team is leading by forty as he does when his team's behind by six with a minute to go.
Again, good point. DeGois will control the middle far better than Morris does. Morris does work hard but he either tackles really low and gets offloaded on or goes high and gets pushed back. He got dominated a few times against the Bronco's which helped them get a roll on. You just don't get that with DeGois. He hits hard and hits often which helps control the ruck and controls the momentum with dominate tackles. Throw in his selective running game and decent service from dummy half and you immediately have an upgrade at dummy half.
JdBeam13
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was at game in bay 304 up near the front, from what i remember if the broncos knocked it on it was 6 more tackles.... and how on earth was that wallace try an actual try ???? sure we dropped the ball a bit too often i think, or the broncos just stole it off us and got 6 more tackles.. but as a night, the refs robbed us, and the casino robbed me !!!! no luck all night !!!! beware of the rich asians on poker tables !!!! they call anything !!!!!
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It must just be me but I didn't actually think he was that interested. He looked dangerous on a few occasions but I thought he was pretty bad defensively.
I know that was entertaining when he kicked the ball and chased it and I also know we were down by alot but I thought it was stupid and although he got to the ball at an awkward height he should have picked it up instead of giving it straight back to them. That is the sort of stuff the coach wouldn't like to see.
there is no way the refs were the reason we lost that. I was pissed off when they gave wallace the try after last weeks no try ruling but they weren't the cause for the loss.
Also there was one thing that I think the coach did wrong and that was have friz, wright and stapo on the one side. It would of been helpful to either have toops or hot dog on that side.
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I go along with you Josh, except it was our left side defence that was leaking all of the first half, when the damage was done. That was Toops, Best and Hot dog. Stapo was safe, except for that under ten effort when they scored in the right side in the first half. Wright was good in that first half and in fact had that try covered being around the players legs. If Stapo went for the ball (and he had the opportunity) maybe that would not have been scored (not that its made a difference).
phoenix
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i dont think that was wrong imo broncs didnt score down that side and tbh we didnt attack down that side, well we did once and scored but we did play one side in attack left side
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Yeah they defended well and matty wright looks great at reading the defense but I thought we should of had someone with abit more age and experience over there to help them. It wasn't really a problem but it could have been. I was very impressed with them and that could possibly be our right edge for years to come.
I'm just watching this game for the first time- I'm starting with the second half because I'm not sure I'm up to the pain of the first, but my initial thoughts are:
- We're gonna miss Kade Snowden pretty badly
- Ty Frizell has to be in the 17 long term. He's an unusual talent for us to produce- a very high quality athlete. And Tautai is a similarly good athlete.
- Perhaps the biggest weakness in JMo's game is that he doesn't give help his runners get over the advantage line much at all- Frizell just got belted because the pass he received was too high and poorly timed, making him stutter before he hit the defenders
- Line speed is terrible
- We're gonna miss Kade Snowden pretty badly
- Ty Frizell has to be in the 17 long term. He's an unusual talent for us to produce- a very high quality athlete. And Tautai is a similarly good athlete.
- Perhaps the biggest weakness in JMo's game is that he doesn't give help his runners get over the advantage line much at all- Frizell just got belted because the pass he received was too high and poorly timed, making him stutter before he hit the defenders
- Line speed is terrible
I find this as our number 1 weakness.
Watch the Sharks vs Dragons round 2 and Panthers vs Sharks round 3. Our line speed was amazing.
Also our kick chase is very awful as well. God i wish we had noddy back sometimes for this very reason.
I don't. But I agree about linespeed- its probably the best measure of attitude.
Morris has been terrible. Wrong options galore. He just came out of DH with a couple of dummies before sliding cross field and passing just in time for Townsend to get belted.
Also- Tautai, Smith and Snowden have been our best. By far.
Pomeroy just made a great break thanks to Hotdog, then murdered a try after nice spread.
And we should have kept Tautai instead of signing Taufua. Anyone who says different has no clue. He can play anywhere in the pack, he's mobile, has good footwork, great upper body strength and great leg drive. Yes he has the odd error in his game, but so does Gal.
Gerard Beale is a freak in the making.
The Broncos look pretty ordinary without Lockyer and Parker on the field. We've dominated the last 10 minutes of the match.
Smith was our best (at least in the second half).
Morris has been terrible. Wrong options galore. He just came out of DH with a couple of dummies before sliding cross field and passing just in time for Townsend to get belted.
Also- Tautai, Smith and Snowden have been our best. By far.
Pomeroy just made a great break thanks to Hotdog, then murdered a try after nice spread.
And we should have kept Tautai instead of signing Taufua. Anyone who says different has no clue. He can play anywhere in the pack, he's mobile, has good footwork, great upper body strength and great leg drive. Yes he has the odd error in his game, but so does Gal.
Gerard Beale is a freak in the making.
The Broncos look pretty ordinary without Lockyer and Parker on the field. We've dominated the last 10 minutes of the match.
Smith was our best (at least in the second half).
HrvatskaDomovino
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I disagree. I think one of his better attributes is that he engages the markers before he brings others into play (i.e. getting his runners over the advantage line). A lot of DH either pass off the ground or make a run whereas I think the better ones like Smith, Farah etc do a lot more play-making, have more variety in their games. On the whole I think Morris has been good for us; I wouldn't be judging him off the back of this game.
I agree. Problem is that a lot of people made their judgment of him long ago and have been trying to justify it since. If he does have issues with discipline (which I don't think he does) than that is easily fixable as Gal has shown over the past couple of years.
Good ol' Gus made a good point once about the Storm and how everything they do gives off the impression of having been rehearsed and practiced over and over again by rote.
Against the Bulldogs it seemed as if we came into that match with our structures fresh in mind. We had depth, we had ball-runners coming back against the grain with Gardner sweeping around etc. Since then we've been scattered in that regard and seemingly not executing those structures with the same regularity as we did then. It seems that in the intensity of the battle we lose our mettle too easily in this regard. In the off season that should be a priority of ours to work upon.
The other thing we were missing on Friday night was a Segeyaro type player. The Panthers were well in control of that match with both T. Sims and Bowen looking insipid. Then he came off the bench and puts on a superman tackle which rattled the the pennies and the whole intensity of the Cows lifted thereon. Whereas in the Broncos game Brisbane were physically relentless and no one really attempted to change the momentum of the game. Bukuya was good in that regard. There were a couple of games where he made real good energetic runs to get us out of trouble and swung momentum our way.
On a side note I thought Dayne Weston looked like a gun (though he was up against his old team).
On another note which AB's elaborated on before. I think the NRL lacks the notion of a rebuilding/development phase. There's a perception that teams have to compete every season for a premiership.
Let Peachey, Frizell, Townsend, Mills etc have a couple of seasons in first grade to make mistakes, learn and develop themselves into top line players. Expecting them to be ready made FG's at the point of their debut is unrealistic. Maybe it'll cost us a season or two but in the long run it'll be much more beneficial.
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