NRL Round 2, 2016: Cronulla Sutherland Sharks v St George Illawarra Dragons, Sunday 13th March 4pm @ Shark Park

[deano the p]

Did you find your special little corner mate?

Yep found it nice and early. The North Eastern Western is a great place where all your troubles disappear.

 

[HaroldBishop]

This is very average behaviour if true.

The Rugby League Players Association is investigating security and welfare issues during and after Sunday's Sharks-Dragons match, including allegations that drunken fans abused St George Illawarra forward Joel Thompson in front of his wife and two-year-old daughter and threatened to urinate on their car as they were leaving Southern Cross Group Stadium.

The incident occurred after players were forced to walk from the dressing rooms under the western grandstand to a car park in the adjoining Sharkies Leagues Club, which is on the opposite side of the ground.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...lla-sharks-20160314-gnil5z.html#ixzz42v2iIzGK
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[Tiger Shark]

This is very average behaviour if true.

Yeah not the best behaviour in front of his family, though I don't think there's anything wrong with a bit of good heckling/banter. Seems like maybe they took it too far.

Don't agree with the players were forced to walk to the opposite side of the ground nonsense. How many other stadiums have their car park that close to the dressing room.

 

[Sir Chadley]

This is very average behaviour if true.

For a big crowd the security was pretty ordinary HB. Now I love it when the fans are able to run on the field but they got it horribly wrong on Sunday. About five minutes after fulltime, around 20-30 people suddenly jumped over the fence and went on to the field while the players were still there getting ready for the Monty Porter presentation. I counted just two security guards trying to wave everyone off but they were soon swamped when others saw that this first group had made it on to the field so everyone else just followed suit. The security guards just let it all happen, I doubt this is something the club planned.

 

[deano the p]

That's pathetic if true. Yell out sledges or something when they are on the field but once they are with their family leave the players alone unless you are going to be positive towards them.

 

[sharks2010]

For a big crowd the security was pretty ordinary HB. Now I love it when the fans are able to run on the field but they got it horribly wrong on Sunday. About five minutes after fulltime, around 20-30 people suddenly jumped over the fence and went on to the field while the players were still there getting ready for the Monty Porter presentation. I counted just two security guards trying to wave everyone off but they were soon swamped when others saw that this first group had made it on to the field so everyone else just followed suit. The security guards just let it all happen, I doubt this is something the club planned.

could have had all the security guards that were there and you still wouldn't be able to stop it. How are they suppose to stop that many people.

Blame the parents if anything

 

[gando2230]

yep normally the let spectators on the field after the 2nd siren.
but i think everyone was so stoked after the win they couldnt wait

 

[Milkshark]

The reason i say I wasn't real impressed with Fifita is because he wasn't the xfactor front rower we signed a couple of years ago. It was great he had no errors in him, but he didn't show the xfactor he has in him. It was just a solid display, nothing more.

We are used to Gallen playing lock like a front rower, a million hitups for a million metres per game. Hence why we all want him to play front row. Gallen is not your typical lock and honestly shouldn't even be playing lock. Locks are mobile forwards who can play out wide and could even back up in the backline. Sure they can do hitups but generally you would want them playing wider from the ruck and ballplaying and supporting the halves. I think Bukuya did well, he was mobile and had some important carries. I think he did well and should most definitely at the very least be getting a bench spot and playing quite a few minutes each week.

The game as we have known it for the last few years has changed with the interchanges being reduced and shot clock introduced. The game is quicker and players need to be fitter. Front rowers, 2nd rowers and locks aren't all battering rams anymore.

My 3,2,1:

3: Chad
2: Wade, maybe even Lewis, both were solid
1: Bukuya

Also just adding, I don't think we played well. Yes the scoreline would suggest we did play well but really we didn't. The Dragons played THAT bad and we capitalised on it. Lets not get carried away with the weekends performance, it was 2 all 30 minutes in and the Dragons looked alot better than us at that stage.

Of course all of the above is my opinion only.

 

[Sir Chadley]

could have had all the security guards that were there and you still wouldn't be able to stop it. How are they suppose to stop that many people.

Blame the parents if anything

Totally agree mate but they should have had more than just two guards posted. Maybe there were more but two was all I could see. But like Gando said, I don't think people had anything sinister in mind - they were just so excited seeing us womp the Merge.

 

[Sir Chadley]

The reason i say I wasn't real impressed with Fifita is because he wasn't the xfactor front rower we signed a couple of years ago. It was great he had no errors in him, but he didn't show the xfactor he has in him. It was just a solid display, nothing more.

We are used to Gallen playing lock like a front rower, a million hitups for a million metres per game. Hence why we all want him to play front row. Gallen is not your typical lock and honestly shouldn't even be playing lock. Locks are mobile forwards who can play out wide and could even back up in the backline. Sure they can do hitups but generally you would want them playing wider from the ruck and ballplaying and supporting the halves. I think Bukuya did well, he was mobile and had some important carries. I think he did well and should most definitely at the very least be getting a bench spot and playing quite a few minutes each week.

The game as we have known it for the last few years has changed with the interchanges being reduced and shot clock introduced. The game is quicker and players need to be fitter. Front rowers, 2nd rowers and locks aren't all battering rams anymore.

My 3,2,1:

3: Chad
2: Wade, maybe even Lewis, both were solid
1: Bukuya

Also just adding, I don't think we played well. Yes the scoreline would suggest we did play well but really we didn't. The Dragons played THAT bad and we capitalised on it. Lets not get carried away with the weekends performance, it was 2 all 30 minutes in and the Dragons looked alot better than us at that stage.

Of course all of the above is my opinion only.

Mate, did you put these in the 3-2-1 thread? It'll get missed in this one.

 

[Milkshark]

Mate, did you put these in the 3-2-1 thread? It'll get missed in this one.

Nah I only put it in here because someone in here asked me.

 

[Bundy Shark]

The reason i say I wasn't real impressed with Fifita is because he wasn't the xfactor front rower we signed a couple of years ago. It was great he had no errors in him, but he didn't show the xfactor he has in him. It was just a solid display, nothing more.

We are used to Gallen playing lock like a front rower, a million hitups for a million metres per game. Hence why we all want him to play front row. Gallen is not your typical lock and honestly shouldn't even be playing lock. Locks are mobile forwards who can play out wide and could even back up in the backline. Sure they can do hitups but generally you would want them playing wider from the ruck and ballplaying and supporting the halves. I think Bukuya did well, he was mobile and had some important carries. I think he did well and should most definitely at the very least be getting a bench spot and playing quite a few minutes each week.

The game as we have known it for the last few years has changed with the interchanges being reduced and shot clock introduced. The game is quicker and players need to be fitter. Front rowers, 2nd rowers and locks aren't all battering rams anymore.

My 3,2,1:

3: Chad
2: Wade
1: Bukuya

Also just adding, I don't think we played well. Yes the scoreline would suggest we did play well but really we didn't. The Dragons played THAT bad and we capitalised on it. Lets not carried away with the weekends performance, it was 2 all 30 minutes in and the Dragons looked alot better than us at that stage.

Of course all of the above is my opinion only.

Mate, I will take this or that performance by Fifita for the majority of the season, back 'when he showed X factor' we needed him to because as a squad we had bugger all of X factor.

Our squad is now much stronger across the board so for the likes of Fifita or a individual having to be the only one to pluck something out of his behind to win us or get us back in the game are less needed now, we are starting to be a strong team, if each player plays his role we should be ok for the best part of most games, yeh, you need someone to stand up but if Fifita does his go forward without the rubbish we are a better team ten fold already.

IF he does make that break or miracle play its a bonus but you cant tell me we need it from him all the time, we just need Gal to realize if he does the go forward for us & works his backside off in defence we are ok as well, we don't need him to be the saviour every set of 6 nor need him to do the customary two hit per set of 6 or play the first receiver role.

 

[Milkshark]

Mate, I will take this of that performance by Fifita for the majority of the season, back when he showed X factor we needed him to because as a squad we had bugger all of X factor.

Our squad is much stronger across the board so for the likes of Fifita or a individual having to pluck something out of his behind to win us or get us back in the game are less needed now, we are starting to be a strong team, if each player plays his role we should be ok for the best part of most games, yeh, you need someone to stand up but if Fifita does his go forward without the rubbish we are a better team ten fold already.

IF he does make that break or miracle play its a bonus but you cant tell me we need it from him all the time, we just need Gal to realize if he does the go forward for us & works his backside off in defence we are ok as well, we don't need him to be the saviour every set of 6 nor need him to do the customary two hit per set of 6 or play the first receiver role.

I 100% agree. I can't stand some of the stupid things Fifita does. His performance on the weekend was great, don't get me wrong. I just didn't see the xfactor he has. BUT, if he plays like this all year then we should all be happy. Agree regarding Gallen too, he just needs to run hard and tackle nothing more nothing less. I only brought Gallen into the convo to state that I don't think he is a lock the way he plays so we shouldn't use him as a comparison for other locks.

 

[Gards]

yep normally the let spectators on the field after the 2nd siren.
but i think everyone was so stoked after the win they couldnt wait

I think it's usually just children allowed onto the ground after the second siren though, not all and sundry
Was pretty funny seeing all these little kids swap the players while they were still out there though ha ha

Club really needs to learn from Sunday and how to manage big crowds in the future (security, bar lines ect) not that they haven't had lessons in the past...

 

[deano the p]

The reason i say I wasn't real impressed with Fifita is because he wasn't the xfactor front rower we signed a couple of years ago. It was great he had no errors in him, but he didn't show the xfactor he has in him. It was just a solid display, nothing more.

We are used to Gallen playing lock like a front rower, a million hitups for a million metres per game. Hence why we all want him to play front row. Gallen is not your typical lock and honestly shouldn't even be playing lock. Locks are mobile forwards who can play out wide and could even back up in the backline. Sure they can do hitups but generally you would want them playing wider from the ruck and ballplaying and supporting the halves. I think Bukuya did well, he was mobile and had some important carries. I think he did well and should most definitely at the very least be getting a bench spot and playing quite a few minutes each week.

The game as we have known it for the last few years has changed with the interchanges being reduced and shot clock introduced. The game is quicker and players need to be fitter. Front rowers, 2nd rowers and locks aren't all battering rams anymore.

My 3,2,1:

3: Chad
2: Wade, maybe even Lewis, both were solid
1: Bukuya

Also just adding, I don't think we played well. Yes the scoreline would suggest we did play well but really we didn't. The Dragons played THAT bad and we capitalised on it. Lets not get carried away with the weekends performance, it was 2 all 30 minutes in and the Dragons looked alot better than us at that stage.

Of course all of the above is my opinion only.

I disagree with your summary on a lock. I think our game at this stage has progressed past your description which is more the role of a traditional lock.
These days we have backrowers on the edge used in much the same way as a lock of old (except for floating around the field). Most edge backrowers are capable enough ball players to help the halves and the ones who aren't are used well as decoy runners and hard running lines which assists the halves anyway.
The lock these days is a middle third player, this may change back but for the moment this is the role of the lock.

 

[Sir Chadley]

I think it's usually just children allowed onto the ground after the second siren though, not all and sundry
Was pretty funny seeing all these little kids swap the players while they were still out there though ha ha

Club really needs to learn from Sunday and how to manage big crowds in the future (security, bar lines ect) not that they haven't had lessons in the past...

After the second siren everyone can go on Gards. For those of us with kids 6 years old or younger you need to be with them at all times.
I've gone on with my boy a few times and it's great fun. But it has to be after the players go off - apart from the lack of security guards there was no announcement either.
If they had announced what was going to happen llike they have done before, everyone would have known they had to wait for the second siren.

I'm sure they'll sort it out.

 

[Milkshark]

I disagree with your summary on a lock. I think our game at this stage has progressed past your description which is more the role of a traditional lock.
These days we have backrowers on the edge used in much the same way as a lock of old (except for floating around the field). Most edge backrowers are capable enough ball players to help the halves and the ones who aren't are used well as decoy runners and hard running lines which assists the halves anyway.
The lock these days is a middle third player, this may change back but for the moment this is the role of the lock.

My description of a lock is definitely old school, but I think we are heading back that way, I hope so anyway.

 

[deano the p]

My description of a lock is definitely old school, but I think we are heading back that way, I hope so anyway.

I struggle to think we will get back to that now tbh, maybe we will when interchanges go down more but I don't see it in the near future.

 

[Milkshark]

I struggle to think we will get back to that now tbh, maybe we will when interchanges go down more but I don't see it in the near future.

I really hope so. League used to be so much more exciting.

 

[Mr Wright]

could have had all the security guards that were there and you still wouldn't be able to stop it. How are they suppose to stop that many people.

Blame the parents if anything

Sorry mate, Mummy and Daddy didn't make the trip down. They couldn't stop me.