Official Nicho Hynes

[Mr Ryan]

It was actually 42-0 at halftime if it is the 64-14 game at Shark Park you are talking about.

And Matty was with us that year, but was injured that day

 

[ben]

I wouldn't say he wasn't interested but this is how Hynes plays

1. Can't break the defence with routine set plays, starts going into panic attack mode.
2. Starts running the ball unnecessarily.
3. Starts making silly plays, i.e. pushing passes on 1st/2nd tackle sets.
4. Silly plays end up being mistakes.
5. Goes into shell.
6. Random silly plays that lead to mistakes.
7. Back in shell.

Then somehow people on here expect either Moylan or Trindall to step up when it's pretty obvious our whole structure revolves around one guy.

That's how we get found out, we aren't the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks, we are Nicho Hynes Sharks. We are a team based around one man, when he's out, we are all out. I'm not bagging Hynes, I think he's one of our best but we gamble too much on him.

I agree with all this. So should he be calling the plays? Im not sure he has it in him to run a team.

But where is his best position?

This is not a response to a bad game, he has done this multiple times.

 

[ben]

Thing is people say Tricky is inexperienced. Well guess what, so is Nicho.

We need more balance for sure, Nicho isn't Cleary.

Third year at half and fifth in the NRL.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Third year at half and fifth in the NRL.

I know, he's not experienced as a half.

If we was crook I'm glad we haven't said anything about it, no excuses.

 

[bort]

I agree with all this. So should he be calling the plays? Im not sure he has it in him to run a team.

But where is his best position?

This is not a response to a bad game, he has done this multiple times.

If not him then who?

At the training I went to in Perth before Rabbitohs game Hynes entirely ran the show, he did almost all of the talking and even stopped everyone to remind them something.
Moylan on the defence side with coaches and extras did more talking than Trindall.
McInnes and Toby did more speaking in a smaller group game than Trindall (Hynes and Moylan in other group).

I doubt the bloke is under special instructions not to talk at training even if Nicho is not around.
Another preseason with him as clear first choice 5/8 now so hopefully Tricky has improved since then but despite being a halfback that appeared to be a big hole in his game.

Part of the reason why I see nothing changing by swapping shirt numbers.

(I've referred back to this a few times but it's all I've got to go on haha, if anyone here ever attends any trainings/captains runs please contribute.)

Third year at half and fifth in the NRL.

So, particularly in the position we are playing him, only really halfway to the 100 game marker.
Doesn't mean he can't play well now, just means likely still improving and learning a lot.

I think sometimes he plays too fast for everyone, he does **** and expects our guys to be there and they either can't keep up or don't think to.
When he runs then pulls up and looks for a runner and nobody is there, when he runs himself out of space because the line runner he wanted (inside or outside) didn't appear, when he tried to shepherd Api off the loose ball like he thought someone else would come through and grab it.

A criticism of him as much as his teammates.

When he runs if nobody is communicating they are with him just take it yourself, when going across make sure from training they know exactly what you want them doing, dive on that loose ball.

 

[ben]

If not him then who?

At the training I went to in Perth before Rabbitohs game Hynes entirely ran the show, he did almost all of the talking and even stopped everyone to remind them something.
Moylan on the defence side with coaches and extras did more talking than Trindall.
McInnes and Toby did more speaking in a smaller group game than Trindall (Hynes and Moylan in other group).

I doubt the bloke is under special instructions not to talk at training even if Nicho is not around.
Another preseason with him as clear first choice 5/8 now so hopefully Tricky has improved since then but despite being a halfback that appeared to be a big hole in his game.

Part of the reason why I see nothing changing by swapping shirt numbers.

(I've referred back to this a few times but it's all I've got to go on haha, if anyone here ever attends any trainings/captains runs please contribute.)


So, particularly in the position we are playing him, only really halfway to the 100 game marker.
Doesn't mean he can't play well now, just means likely still improving and learning a lot.

I think sometimes he plays too fast for everyone, he does **** and expects our guys to be there and they either can't keep up or don't think to.
When he runs then pulls up and looks for a runner and nobody is there, when he runs himself out of space because the line runner he wanted (inside or outside) didn't appear, when he tried to shepherd Api off the loose ball like he thought someone else would come through and grab it.

A criticism of him as much as his teammates.

When he runs if nobody is communicating they are with him just take it yourself, when going across make sure from training they know exactly what you want them doing, dive on that loose ball.

I dont know who??

But it reflects on the coach really. We have people making a point that he is inexperienced, combine that with what you saw. So we have an inexperienced half, still learning, doing all the talking and running the plays. He wasn't that guy in Melb. Maybe we need to recruit a top shelf half like Nathan Cleary and move Hynes to supporting actor and hope he gets supporting actor syndrome. Maybe even a swap

 

[Proud Shark]

I dont know who??

But it reflects on the coach really. We have people making a point that he is inexperienced, combine that with what you saw. So we have an inexperienced half, still learning, doing all the talking and running the plays. He wasn't that guy in Melb. Maybe we need to recruit a top shelf half like Nathan Cleary and move Hynes to supporting actor and hope he gets supporting actor syndrome. Maybe even a swap

There are 16 other sides hoping to recruit a Nathan Cleary though. Given the move with AFB, I have little doubt Fitz and Mooney will upgrade any positions they can if they can. But in the mean time we need to make it work with what we have. I think that looks like persisting with Nicho as the key guy.

 

[bort]

I dont know who??

But it reflects on the coach really. We have people making a point that he is inexperienced, combine that with what you saw. So we have an inexperienced half, still learning, doing all the talking and running the plays. He wasn't that guy in Melb. Maybe we need to recruit a top shelf half like Nathan Cleary and move Hynes to supporting actor and hope he gets supporting actor syndrome. Maybe even a swap

A rhetorical question!

I'm onboard with your recruit Nathan Cleary plan, I don't now the numbers but presumably we move Royce Hunt on and go from there haha

We are quite an experienced team, growing and learning together, our primary leaders are Cam and Dale who I have no doubt drive standards at training and will benefit us in the long run but the fact Dale is often out, they often rotate on and off, and neither is a big impact player* hurts.

*What I meant there is while they can both positively impact a game neither has that top level momentum turning ability. When Dale tries he gets suspended, Cam can generate momentum for us but not off slow PTBs when everything going against us.
A vet middle with game changing ability would help us a lot, a real AFB type haha

 

[apezza]

It was actually 42-0 at halftime if it is the 64-14 game at Shark Park you are talking about.

Yep. That's it.

 

[Gards]

Cue the "Bring Moylan Back" thread

I asked about his flight status 2 weeks ago. He was the specialist half vs pleb team expert player

I don't get why when we are pinned in our half and we wait on the 5th to do a clearing kick while there are three backs waiting to catch on the full.

Why aren't we doing clearing kicks on the 4th when usually it's the opposition fullback is on his own?

Because in our team it's illegal to do a long kick we have to cart it up manually as far as possible before doing a stabbing little kick that lands 20m out from the goal line

Trindalls boot is being wasted

I know, he's not experienced as a half.

If we was crook I'm glad we haven't said anything about it, no excuses.

It's bad enough and hard enough just trying to get some rest and stay hydrated when you are crook yet alone playing 80 mins of FG Rugby League. Young and fit but would still be a nightmare to get through IMO.

If that's what comes from it though maybe he shouldn't be playing and maybe player should put their hand up for sake of the team or coach makes the executive decision the player is gunna be a liability possibly.

Not sure who we had in the named squad as a suitable halves replacement though? By the team someone gets sick it might be too late and we already down to a 18 man squad or whatever.

The flu is no joke, if it goes through your team you are screwed

Yep. That's it.

You are probably thinking of Andrew Johns whinging to the ref before half time that his team were 30 points down and to start going easy on them haha but it only got worse for them lol. Such a great day

 

[apezza]

You are probably thinking of Andrew Johns whinging to the ref before half time that his team were 30 points down and to start going easy on them haha but it only got worse for them lol. Such a great day

That is exactly what I was thinking about!!

We scored a try, went to video ref and subsequently got awarded.. Ref told Johns it was a benefit of the doubt try.

Johns replied: "Benefit of the doubt? - it's 30 nil!"

 

[Sir Chadley]

That is exactly what I was thinking about!!

We scored a try, went to video ref and subsequently got awarded.. Ref told Johns it was a benefit of the doubt try.

Johns replied: "Benefit of the doubt? - it's 30 nil!"

He actually said, "It's 42-0!"

 

[apezza]

He actually said, "It's 42-0!"

One in the best days at Shark Park!

 

[Gards]

That is exactly what I was thinking about!!

We scored a try, went to video ref and subsequently got awarded.. Ref told Johns it was a benefit of the doubt try.

Johns replied: "Benefit of the doubt? - it's 30 nil!"

Yea it was something like that, I remember Johns standing in our in-goal with the ref absolutely spewing at the carnage taking place and how bad his Knights were getting pumped and for some mercy to be shown.

The thing I remember more than anything though is the Paul Mellor double palm down the wing. We were untouchable in that game and against prime Newcastle era.

Glorious

 

[apezza]

Yea it was something like that, I remember Johns standing in our in-goal with the ref absolutely spewing at the carnage taking place and how bad his Knights were getting pumped and for some mercy to be shown.

The thing I remember more than anything though is the Paul Mellor double palm down the wing. We were untouchable in that game and against prime Newcastle era.

Glorious

Rabs commentary: "Not even I could stop Paul Mellor!"

 

[MrDravid]

Trindalls boot is being wasted

Trindall kicked almost as much as Nicho on the weekend.

 

[Sparkles]

I get confused when he decides to run the ball.

He’s a big half and he has a good knack of knowing when to run, but it’s like he stops in the line to avoid contact.

It's like his first instinct is to set up for the next play rather than make the most of or try to create an opportunity. That play where he tried to shepherd the ball on the ground so someone else could get it when he was the best positioned player from either side was a good example. The bit where he looked angry at everyone for not getting the ball wasn't a good look.

 

[Sharky Pete]

One in the best days at Shark Park!

I remember being at that game on the southern hill.

Still one of the best games I've seen.

 

[Sharky Pete]

I get confused when he decides to run the ball.

He’s a big half and he has a good knack of knowing when to run, but it’s like he stops in the line to avoid contact.

I said it in the match thread on the weekend but I honestly think Trindall & Hynes should swap jumpers. We need a halfback that is a playmaker and as much.as I love Nicho it ain't who he is.

Hynes to 6, Trindall to 7.

 

[apezza]

I remember being at that game on the southern hill.

Still one of the best games I've seen.

Now that's how a halfback gets 3 Daily M points!