Official Nicho Hynes

[Tiger Shark]

There was also about 3 or 4 games at Shark Park early last year where the wind / weather wad atrocious.

He definitely appears to be kicking better though

Yeah I think the general feel is he will get the kick as opposed to last year you didn’t know what version you’d get each week.

Build on that and we’re good

 

[Sharkfox]

If we let Mr Genuine himself run the show we’re probably desperately trying to score a try at the end to keep it respectable, rather than 1 point to draw or 2 to win.

Old mate best 40/20 in the NRL **** the bed with his kicking like two weeks ago.

Doesn’t lead or organise the team - it’s an interesting choice to assume that’s because coach won’t let him when there’s very little evidence he is as good at it, or certainly not that he’s better at it.

The bloke we call Tricky but his teammate just call Trindall had the ball in his hands at the death and ditched it at the back of Talakais shoulder.

Hynes does more because right now he’s a much better half. You won’t change my view.

Both have ceiling to keep improving towards.

Trindall had 6 games trying to adapt to the style of footy they had Hynes playing last two years, he did well coming in late in the season. Tell Trindall the halfback role is his, train and step up, give him a pre season and the regular season as first choice half back to prove himself and develop further.

Stop the halves switching roles game plan, just simplify things and have them play their traditonal roles. If you want Hynes as 7 then get him to focus more on game management and his kicking game so he can be at the level of the other top number 7's. I still think he'd be a better five eighth, he himself said thats where he'd prefer playing during origin, as a running five eighth, wasnt just saying that to get an origin jersey, he beleives thats where he's best suited and suits his style of playing

 

[Tiger Shark]

Trindall had 6 games trying to adapt to the style of footy they had Hynes playing last two years, he did well coming in late in the season. Tell Trindall the halfback role is his, train and step up, give him a pre season and the regular season as first choice half back to prove himself and develop further.

Stop the halves switching roles game plan, just simplify things and have them play their traditonal roles. If you want Hynes as 7 then get him to focus more on game management and his kicking game so he can be at the level of the other top number 7's. I still think he'd be a better five eighth, he himself said thats where he'd prefer playing during origin, as a running five eighth, wasnt just saying that to get an origin jersey, he beleives thats where he's best suited and suits his style of playing

You’re fixated on what number someone wears and the role they must play.

I don’t think it works that way anymore. If Nicho wants the 7 keep it. It’s not going to change how we play.

I agree that we need to tinker with things assuming Trindall gets first crack

 

[bort]

Trindall had 6 games trying to adapt to the style of footy they had Hynes playing last two years, he did well coming in late in the season. Tell Trindall the halfback role is his, train and step up, give him a pre season and the regular season as first choice half back to prove himself and develop further.

Stop the halves switching roles game plan, just simplify things and have them play their traditonal roles. If you want Hynes as 7 then get him to focus more on game management and his kicking game so he can be at the level of the other top number 7's. I still think he'd be a better five eighth, he himself said thats where he'd prefer playing during origin, as a running five eighth, wasnt just saying that to get an origin jersey, he beleives thats where he's best suited and suits his style of playing

Trindall should start training with the team if he’s only had 6 games to get used to his role.

Halves are always a partnership, the less they can interchange when needed the worse not the better, especially in modern game when defence is so strong. One bloke who always just does one thing another who always just does another won’t break down any defences. When they ‘swap roles’ they are doing the positions you prefer anyway, so what’s the difference. Probably happens more due to left right or where they happen to be standing not some intense game plan to alternate 6 and 7.

Hynes IS focusing on game managing and kicking. Fitz mentions it, I’ve seen it in captains run. Hynes IS trying to get to the level of the elite 7s, he’s played many many less games than them. Trindall certainly isn’t close based on his last game in 7

If you think he’d rather play 5/8 because he said it one time when it would help him get a rep jersey he’s not doing a good job of getting it.

But hey, I could be wrong, I know that’s true. Just my opinion.

 

[HaroldBishop]

The way Nicho and Tricky played against the Cows was perfect. Why we've gone away from that, back to the Nicho show, is stupid.

 

[ben]

I agree and one of our best games of the year. Its going to beinteresting to see Trindall and Kennedy together.

 

[Sharkfox]

You’re fixated on what number someone wears and the role they must play.

I don’t think it works that way anymore. If Nicho wants the 7 keep it. It’s not going to change how we play.

I agree that we need to tinker with things assuming Trindall gets first crack

The roles still matter, you dont see alot of the top halfbacks which most happen to wear the 7 switch roles alot through out games. Each half can play on their own sides and when they combine the halfback still remains as a first receiver. The roles are simplified, and you can have Nicho at five eighth roving both sides playing second or third receiver instead of on the ball all the time

 

[Sharkfox]

Trindall should start training with the team if he’s only had 6 games to get used to his role.

Halves are always a partnership, the less they can interchange when needed the worse not the better, especially in modern game when defence is so strong. One bloke who always just does one thing another who always just does another won’t break down any defences. When they ‘swap roles’ they are doing the positions you prefer anyway, so what’s the difference. Probably happens more due to left right or where they happen to be standing not some intense game plan to alternate 6 and 7.

Hynes IS focusing on game managing and kicking. Fitz mentions it, I’ve seen it in captains run. Hynes IS trying to get to the level of the elite 7s, he’s played many many less games than them. Trindall certainly isn’t close based on his last game in 7

If you think he’d rather play 5/8 because he said it one time when it would help him get a rep jersey he’s not doing a good job of getting it.

But hey, I could be wrong, I know that’s true. Just my opinion.

He played well at 7 beginning of the year, has the mindset to game manage just needs more game time to develop and mature. Not a fan of swapping roles, if you got a play making fullback then use him, otherwise use the five eighth to rove, but have the halfback play his role as first reciever. Hynes should be running around like Munster while someone like Trindall does the managing, He can still be dominant and call shots.

 

[bort]

He played well at 7 beginning of the year, has the mindset to game manage just needs more game time to develop and mature. Not a fan of swapping roles, if you got a play making fullback then use him, otherwise use the five eighth to rove, but have the halfback play his role as first reciever. Hynes should be running around like Munster while someone like Trindall does the managing, He can still be dominant and call shots.

Did he play well at 7 at the beginning of the year? We dropped games to Rabbitohs and Raiders who both finished below us, and barely beat Eels. Teams 8, 9 & 10 and we won 1/3.
He was solid but some have taken it and run with him as an elite game manager for some reason. Can kick slightly longer and has played 7 as a junior. Must be a high level game manager.

Does Cleary, DCE, Hunt, Hughes etc just pass along from first receiver?
How does Hynes be dominant and call the shots as a second receiver to the game manager?

 

[Wiz]

The way Nicho and Tricky played against the Cows was perfect. Why we've gone away from that, back to the Nicho show, is stupid.

Agreed

Nicho just wants to be the man

Have no idea why else we shifted away from what was our most complete game all year

 

[Wiz]

Did he play well at 7 at the beginning of the year? We dropped games to Rabbitohs and Raiders who both finished below us, and barely beat Eels. Teams 8, 9 & 10 and we won 1/3.
He was solid but some have taken it and run with him as an elite game manager for some reason. Can kick slightly longer and has played 7 as a junior. Must be a high level game manager.

Does Cleary, DCE, Hunt, Hughes etc just pass along from first receiver?
How does Hynes be dominant and call the shots as a second receiver to the game manager?

@bort nah he just played well enough to get voted best player on ground twice out of 3 games

@Sharkfox feed him

 

[Sharkfox]

Did he play well at 7 at the beginning of the year? We dropped games to Rabbitohs and Raiders who both finished below us, and barely beat Eels. Teams 8, 9 & 10 and we won 1/3.
He was solid but some have taken it and run with him as an elite game manager for some reason. Can kick slightly longer and has played 7 as a junior. Must be a high level game manager.

Does Cleary, DCE, Hunt, Hughes etc just pass along from first receiver?
How does Hynes be dominant and call the shots as a second receiver to the game manager?

Not saying he's an elite game manager, but he has the skills to manage games better and with more games he can develop and mature further. Nicho can be an elite five eighth

 

[puma1355]

We need Ben Hunt. Throw $1.3m at him. Move Hynes to 5/8th.
Give the dragons Moylan, Trindall and Finucane.

 

[MrDravid]

If we let Mr Genuine himself run the show we’re probably desperately trying to score a try at the end to keep it respectable, rather than 1 point to draw or 2 to win.

Old mate best 40/20 in the NRL **** the bed with his kicking like two weeks ago.

Doesn’t lead or organise the team - it’s an interesting choice to assume that’s because coach won’t let him when there’s very little evidence he is as good at it, or certainly not that he’s better at it.

The bloke we call Tricky but his teammate just call Trindall had the ball in his hands at the death and ditched it at the back of Talakais shoulder.

Hynes does more because right now he’s a much better half. You won’t change my view.

Both have ceiling to keep improving towards.

As an old dead guy once said... what the heart loves, the will chooses and the mind justifies.

 

[HaroldBishop]

If we let Mr Genuine himself run the show we’re probably desperately trying to score a try at the end to keep it respectable, rather than 1 point to draw or 2 to win.

Old mate best 40/20 in the NRL **** the bed with his kicking like two weeks ago.

Doesn’t lead or organise the team - it’s an interesting choice to assume that’s because coach won’t let him when there’s very little evidence he is as good at it, or certainly not that he’s better at it.

The bloke we call Tricky but his teammate just call Trindall had the ball in his hands at the death and ditched it at the back of Talakais shoulder.

Hynes does more because right now he’s a much better half. You won’t change my view.

Both have ceiling to keep improving towards.

He did? He only took 5 kicks.

Those dinky little bombs Nicho put up in the first half were shithouse.

 

[CrazyMatt]

We need Ben Hunt. Throw $1.3m at him. Move Hynes to 5/8th.
Give the dragons Moylan, Trindall and Finucane.

1. Even if we move Moylan, Trindall and Dale on for full freight, which is damn near impossible because no club would be stupid enough to do that for us, we probably wont have enough money to cover the 1.3m Hunt would ask for, plus fill out our required squad numbers.

2. Ben Hunt’s made it clear that he wants to go back to Queensland, despite what the song says, we’re not in Queensland.

Lets keep it realistic shall we folks?

 

[Blue_Eyes84]

I hope Hynes can get whatever off-field problems fixed over the off-season. He looked like some external issues weighed him down this year. Also, Fitzy needs to get Trindall more involved and take some pressure off Hynes.

 

[Proud Shark]

There seems to be a lot of chat about how Nicho dominating isn't working. I don't disagree, but I think there's more nuance to the reason why it isn't working.

I think it's pretty safe to say that the game plan isn't "Nicho do everything". The coach has been critical of him doing this throughout the year so that pretty much rules this out.

I guess I'd raise the question - Does he feel like he has to do everything, and if so, why?

Potentially he doesn't trust the other spine members to get the job done. This could be due to the developing combinations - Tricky 8 weeks, Tracey 5 weeks, etc. I know they train together, but I can imagine nothing would build trust like getting it done together on game day, which they haven't had a lot of experience doing.

Potentially he needs other players to step up and get it done. All three of our other spine players had the potential to step up against the roosters and they didn't:
- Tracey could have iced his opportunity on the edge that he didn't.
- Brailey had multiple opportunities with Tedesco off the field to score or ice chances.
- Tricky could have been anywhere near the ruck to provide an extra field goal option instead of sitting on the left edge.
- Our whole pack/team could have provided some defence/blockers for Nicho taking the field goal.

If any of the above happens, we're almost talking about how good Nicho was in icing the game for us. Whilst I agree that sometimes he's everywhere and unpredictable, and he could slow down. I definitely think the onus should lay more on the rest of the side to step up and support him.

There's a lot of rhetoric from the side when interviewed about how good he is, and how he sees the game differently and creates opportunities. I worry that if they believe that, maybe they feel under less pressure to step up and create themselves.

 

[Walley_01]

Nico has said for a while that he wants to be the main man of a team which is clearly is for ours. With that comes lots of pressure and i wonder how much pressure he puts on himself to deliver which leads to overplaying his hand.

 

[bort]

He did? He only took 5 kicks.

Those dinky little bombs Nicho put up in the first half were shithouse.

13 actually