Official Nicho Hynes

[Western Sharkie]

Can't believe @Western Sharkie is such a Nicho hater. Disappointing.

You better believe it…….

I have a voodoo doll of him and the last pin went into his right leg…….

or was that the left leg?

 

[Sharkfox]

They didn’t win many games without him (2 wasn’t it?), but those were factored in.

If Trindall could be the better half with Nicho before he could do it with him again.
Maybe he was the ‘better half’ because of the work Nicho did as the 7 and not despite it

Its not like Hynes single handedly won all the games first half of season, he also had those two support him, play their roles and contributed with and without the ball.

 

[Vichyssoise]

Its not like Hynes single handedly won all the games first half of season, he also had those two support him, play their roles and contributed with and without the ball.

Yep. We're a very good team on our day, but we really have only one star (Nicho) that's not always super.
When we win, we usually do that on the back of a remarkable team effort. Besides Talakai's performance against Manly 2 years ago (please keep sending your condolences to Morgan Harper's family), I can't remember a single game where one player really, by himself, beat the opposition and won the game single handedly ala Cleary in last year's GF for example.

 

[bort]

It’s not like Hynes single handedly won all the games first half of season, he also had those two support him, play their roles and contributed with and without the ball.

Yeah, but if they could win games playing with him before, they can again

 

[Sharkfox]

Yep. We're a very good team on our day, but we really have only one star (Nicho) that's not always super.
When we win, we usually do that on the back of a remarkable team effort. Besides Talakai's performance against Manly 2 years ago (please keep sending your condolences to Morgan Harper's family), I can't remember a single game where one player really, by himself, beat the opposition and won the game single handedly ala Cleary in last year's GF for example.

Yeah, but if they could win games playing with him before, they can again

The rookies look more comfortable individually and as a pairing together than they did with Nicho. The spine also doesnt rely on or look for 1 guy all the time, both can play their natural games and also share the work load of game management and attack.
Hynes is a gun and star player, but i dont want him back in running the team at halfback. We look much better as a team keeping things simple and playing more direct.

 

[bort]

The rookies look more comfortable individually and as a pairing together than they did with Nicho. The spine also doesnt rely on or look for 1 guy all the time, both can play their natural games and also share the work load of game management and attack.
Hynes is a gun and star player, but i dont want him back in running the team at halfback. We look much better as a team keeping things simple and playing more direct.

Works a treat when you play tigers
Simply not playing like morons and keeping possession helped quite a bit. More than having Hynes out did, in a perhaps controversial opinion.

It’s nice when plebs can play a role, with or without stars in, it’s Cleary and his grand final effort that’s remembered from last season though.

We haven’t gone **** all season and found some success when Hynes got injured.

If your star halfback is getting you consistently to finals you find a way to get that extra edge to start winning them. You don’t throw the dally m 7, the cabbage 9, and the worst fullback in an NRL squad out and start over because Trindall has the closest haircut to Robson.

 

[Wizard]

The rookies look more comfortable individually and as a pairing together than they did with Nicho. The spine also doesnt rely on or look for 1 guy all the time, both can play their natural games and also share the work load of game management and attack.
Hynes is a gun and star player, but i dont want him back in running the team at halfback. We look much better as a team keeping things simple and playing more direct.

 

[Sharkfox]

Works a treat when you play tigers
Simply not playing like morons and keeping possession helped quite a bit. More than having Hynes out did, in a perhaps controversial opinion.

It’s nice when plebs can play a role, with or without stars in, it’s Cleary and his grand final effort that’s remembered from last season though.

We haven’t gone **** all season and found some success when Hynes got injured.

If your star halfback is getting you consistently to finals you find a way to get that extra edge to start winning them. You don’t throw the dally m 7, the cabbage 9, and the worst fullback in an NRL squad out and start over because Trindall has the closest haircut to Robson.

Its not just based on Tigers game, other games when paired also, and theyve only played what 3 games together, and look more comfortable

 

[Vichyssoise]

Works a treat when you play tigers
Simply not playing like morons and keeping possession helped quite a bit. More than having Hynes out did, in a perhaps controversial opinion.

It’s nice when plebs can play a role, with or without stars in, it’s Cleary and his grand final effort that’s remembered from last season though.

We haven’t gone **** all season and found some success when Hynes got injured.

If your star halfback is getting you consistently to finals you find a way to get that extra edge to start winning them. You don’t throw the dally m 7, the cabbage 9, and the worst fullback in an NRL squad out and start over because Trindall has the closest haircut to Robson.

I lol'd

 

[bort]

Its not just based on Tigers game, other games when paired also, and theyve only played what 3 games together, and look more comfortable

And Nicho has contributed very strongly to us playing three finals series, even if he doesn’t play again this season.

The goal is winning not being comfortable. They can look as comfortable as they want the rest of this season I’m still not giving them a walk up start to be halves pairing next season.

If they win a grand final I’ll give it then round 1 in vegas.

 

[Sharkfox]

And Nicho has contributed very strongly to us playing three finals series, even if he doesn’t play again this season.

The goal is winning not being comfortable. They can look as comfortable as they want the rest of this season I’m still not giving them a walk up start to be halves pairing next season.

Thats the thing, when he's not comfortable, we're not winning, everything relies heavily on him when at halfback

 

[bort]

Thats the thing, when he's not comfortable, we're not winning, everything relies heavily on him when at halfback

And when he’s gone it’ll be some other blokes lone fault for most losses

 

[Sharkfox]

Who cares about dally m, thats in the past, need to move on with what works and gels, and for a start play him at 5-8 when returning and have Tricky run the team at halfback or find an experienced one if he doesnt step up end of year. Let them play what suits their games.
As much as you bag Trindall we're pretty lucky to have him as an option at halfback, because he is a "halfback", and Atko being a pleb has also stood up having only played a few first grade games.
Now that he's gone, we dont expect two rookies to win all the games, but for now theyve shown good signs they're up for it and have the skills to steer and manage a team "together" .
We've had Moylan, Trindall and Atkinson, all trying to adapt to Nicho at halfback, but when they arent paired with Nicho they look better.

 

[Jasonstevenswedgie]

tricky 12 games 7 wins 5 losses

TRY ASSISTS 8
LINE BREAK ASSISTS 6

nicho 13 games 8 wins 5 losses ( and wasnt involed when we scored 58 points)

TRY ASSISTS 12
LINE BREAK ASSISTS 13

nicho at half back offers nothing

 

[bort]

Who cares about dally m, thats in the past, need to move on with what works and gels, and for a start play him at 5-8 when returning and have Tricky run the team at halfback or find an experienced one if he doesnt step up end of year. Let them play what suits their games.
As much as you bag Trindall we're pretty lucky to have him as an option at halfback, because he is a "halfback", and Atko being a pleb has also stood up having only played a few first grade games.
Now that he's gone, we dont expect two rookies to win all the games, but for now theyve shown good signs they're up for it and have the skills to steer and manage a team "together" .
We've had Moylan, Trindall and Atkinson, all trying to adapt to Nicho at halfback, but when they arent paired with Nicho they look better.

To start with you’re moving the goal posts. I objected to if we win a final Trindall and Atkinson are walk up starters for next season
Or that’s how I read

i'd be keeping them for next year

Secondly, do I bag trindall that much? I dont want to suck his dick and he hasn’t really achieved anything, but I don’t think I bag him that much.

And finally, by what metric did Moylan and Hynes not work together? Because Moylan was a defensive liability on his tryline?

 

[Sir Chadley]

For me, there is only one person on this forum who bags Trindall and says he’s crap, but he’s really not worth listening to.

I think also the vast majority of us want Nicho at 6 when and if he returns, but not confident that Nicho or the coach himself want that.

 

[Sharkfox]

To start with you’re moving the goal posts. I objected to if we win a final Trindall and Atkinson are walk up starters for next season
Or that’s how I read


Secondly, do I bag trindall that much? I dont want to suck his dick and he hasn’t really achieved anything, but I don’t think I bag him that much.

And finally, by what metric did Moylan and Hynes not work together? Because Moylan was a def waive liability on his tryline?

Geez mate, dont have to go to that extreme, even with Nicho haha.
Nicho is most likely done for the season, even if he was ok end of season or finals, wouldnt play him after being out for about 2 months. So i'm ruling that out.
I originally said if this rookie halves pairing plays well and the combination also suits how the team plays, and they go all the way to a prelim i would like to see it continue next year.

 

[Deleted member 2543]

What exactly do people think would change if they (Nicho/Trindall) swapped jerseys? When Trindall and Atkinson play together Trindall is still the less involved half in every aspect of the attack expect kicking (Tricky does more) and good ball attack (which is about an even split). Why would that change if Nicho wore 6 instead of Atko? Nicho already plays more second receiver than first in good ball attack, and you expect both halves to be heavily involved in that part of the field no matter what number you slap on their backs.

 

[bort]

Nicho runs too much as a 7. As a 6 he could play his natural game and run more.

He’d also be less likely to miss a game winning/tying goal kick if wearing the number 6 as it comes with less pressure I guess, although admittedly I’m a bit lost on that one.

 

[Sir Chadley]

Not sure if this is a good example @BurgoShark but I think what everyone is saying is if you put 6 on Nicho’s back he becomes the running half like say Dearden at the Cowboys and Tricky at 7 as the controlling half like Townsend (bit of a stretch I know).

This theoretically makes Nicho even more dangerous and allows him to pick his moments while Tricky does the hard stuff. Maybe a better example is Hughes and Munster at the Storm.

Unfortunately my football knowledge doesn’t allow me to know with any certainty this would work with the kind of attack we have.

But in Nicho’s latest form before his injury, it certainly wasn’t working with him at 7.