Official Nicho Hynes

[Sparkles]

If we finish top 4 with Atko and Tricky pairing then win a finals game with them either first round or next, i'd be keeping them for next year

It'd be typical of Nicho's luck for it to happen.

How far back does this unlucky lucky streak go? At least to the Storm GF, where he didn't get to take the field. Anyone have anything before that?

Just read a little about his GF... This blokes autobiography is going to be some read!

Hynes was named on the bench in the Storm's 26–20 NRL Grand Final win over the Penrith Panthers.[9] On this day, he wrote his name in the history books as the first player in the NRL Era to be selected in a grand final but not play a single minute. Records therefore show he was not credited for appearing in the match.[10] The last time a team used less than 17 players in a grand final was the 1994 NSWRL Grand Final, when the victorious Canberra Raiders chose not to use two of their four substitutes.

 

[vicsharkfan]

Yeah people getting a bit carried away

#understatment

 

[bort]

If we finish top 4 with Atko and Tricky pairing then win a finals game with them either first round or next, i'd be keeping them for next year

They are both signed for next year already

At the moment 8 of our 11 wins came with Nicho. If we limp into top 4 he doesn't deserve any credit?
Trindall Atkinson pairing needs to win all the remaining 7 games of the season to have got one more win than Nicho for the season.
If they go 7 from 7 and win a final without him lets talk what to do with Nicho then*.

*okay, I actually have no issue with discussions, but there are a lot of absolutes being thrown around. Let's not pretend Trindall and Atko going 4 from 7 in our easy run home would be the only reason we made the top 4

 

[apezza]

They are both signed for next year already

At the moment 8 of our 11 wins came with Nicho. If we limp into top 4 he doesn't deserve any credit?
Trindall Atkinson pairing needs to win all the remaining 7 games of the season to have got one more win than Nicho for the season.
If they go 7 from 7 and win a final without him lets talk what to do with Nicho then*.

*okay, I actually have no issue with discussions, but there are a lot of absolutes being thrown around. Let's not pretend Trindall and Atko going 4 from 7 in our easy run home would be the only reason we made the top 4

I will add that the defeats that Nicho has been part of - our whole team has been trash. It's not as if he is the sole reason for our losses.

 

[Sharkfox]

It'd be typical of Nicho's luck for it to happen.

How far back does this unlucky lucky streak go? At least to the Storm GF, where he didn't get to take the field. Anyone have anything before that?

Just read a little about his GF... This blokes autobiography is going to be some read!

Hynes was named on the bench in the Storm's 26–20 NRL Grand Final win over the Penrith Panthers.[9] On this day, he wrote his name in the history books as the first player in the NRL Era to be selected in a grand final but not play a single minute. Records therefore show he was not credited for appearing in the match.[10] The last time a team used less than 17 players in a grand final was the 1994 NSWRL Grand Final, when the victorious Canberra Raiders chose not to use two of their four substitutes.

Unfortunate

They are both signed for next year already

At the moment 8 of our 11 wins came with Nicho. If we limp into top 4 he doesn't deserve any credit?
Trindall Atkinson pairing needs to win all the remaining 7 games of the season to have got one more win than Nicho for the season.
If they go 7 from 7 and win a final without him lets talk what to do with Nicho then*.

*okay, I actually have no issue with discussions, but there are a lot of absolutes being thrown around. Let's not pretend Trindall and Atko going 4 from 7 in our easy run home would be the only reason we made the top 4

Keep what works for the team, especially if we are going strong back end of season. They still got 7 rounds to improve or prove themselves and no team is easy when it comes to the busy end of year. Yes credit to Hynes helping us first half of season putting us in the position we are in now, but finals is also a different beast.
If they win first round of finals, means they beat one of the big 3, Storm, Panthers and Roosters in a finals game. If they lose first round and win 2nd round of finals we still go into a prelim which hasnt been done since 2018

 

[bort]

I will add that the defeats that Nicho has been part of - our whole team has been trash. It's not as if he is the sole reason for our losses.

Yep he may have missed opportunities to level or get ahead but others played a much bigger role in getting us to the point that was an issue.

It's not like if Trindall wasn't a goal kicking or drop goal beast we wouldn't have let him take them instead. He's kind of bloke I could absolutely see CHTing a kick.

Unfortunate

Keep what works for the team, especially if we are going strong back end of season. They still got 7 rounds to improve or prove themselves and no team is easy when it comes to the busy end of year. Yes credit to Hynes helping us first half of season putting us in the position we are in now, but finals is also a different beast.
If they win first round of finals, means they beat one of the big 3, Storm, Panthers and Roosters in a finals game. If they lose first round and win 2nd round of finals we still go into a prelim which hasnt been done since 2018

So Nicho at 7 didn't 'work for the team' when we had all those other wins to get us up the ladder?
He shouldn't even get a look in next year because some other guys got the easy run home and then won one finals game (of completely unknown circumstances, and with their own form/contribution purely hypothetical?)

 

[Proud Shark]

We won 8/9 games to start this year against weaker opposition (and the roosters) when Nicho started. Why would we not bring Nicho back if we beat up on weaker opposition to finish the year without him? He had a bad run of form, it doesn't mean we should be looking to replace him with someone with a lesser overall skill set.

 

[Sharkfox]

Yep he may have missed opportunities to level or get ahead but others played a much bigger role in getting us to the point that was an issue.

It's not like if Trindall wasn't a goal kicking or drop goal beast we wouldn't have let him take them instead. He's kind of bloke I could absolutely see CHTing a kick.


So Nicho at 7 didn't 'work for the team' when we had all those other wins to get us up the ladder?
He shouldn't even get a look in next year because some other guys got the easy run home and then won one finals game (of completely unknown circumstances, and with their own form/contribution purely hypothetical?)

If they played well rest of the year then in the finals, and looked good as a halves combo steering the team to get to a prelim or beat 1 of the top 3, would you not be interested to see what they can do next year?
I still said it depends how they go rest of the year

 

[bort]

If they played well rest of the year then in the finals, and looked good as a halves combo steering the team to get to a prelim or beat 1 of the top 3, would you not be interested to see what they can do next year?
I still said it depends how they go rest of the year

Interested, sure, but they can win the spot off Nicho through preseason too. I’m not giving them a free pass to be our starters because they managed one finals win I don’t even know the circumstances of.

If they can’t prove they deserve to start over him in preseason then we back our marquee star player - if our two pleb halves play well together and don’t play as well with him keep whichever one plays best with him and replace the other with someone who suits him.

If they win through, both in great form, and he can barely get a look in through preseason it’s a different convo but inheriting a top 4 position and then winning one more game doesn’t guarantee you the start next season, imo

 

[Sharkfox]

Interested, sure, but they can win the spot off Nicho through preseason too. I’m not giving them a free pass to be our starters because they managed one finals win I don’t even know the circumstances of.

If they can’t prove they deserve to start over him in preseason then we back our marquee star player - if our two pleb halves play well together and don’t play as well with him keep whichever one plays best with him and replace the other with someone who suits him.

If they win through, both in great form, and he can barely get a look in through preseason it’s a different convo but inheriting a top 4 position and then winning one more game doesn’t guarantee you the start next season, imo

You gotta give credit to the two plebs also before Hynes got injured, they won games for us without him and some games Trindall was the better half when paired together

 

[Western Sharkie]

Do we really think that the Trindall/Atkinson combo is going to take us deep into finals? They've had 3 games together, which included a loss to 16th, a win over 17th and a win over 11th who were missing key players and in the middle of a 6 game losing streak.

Did I say he shouldn’t?

Pretty sure I posted “That all depends on how the team goes without him over the next 4-6 weeks I guess”

So let me then ask you,

Do you put him right back in if that combination wins all of the up coming games that Nicho is unavailable leading into the finals? Maybe disrupting the harmony of the team (maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t).

That still depends on his fitness and confidence IMHO.

I never said no. I did however say, let’s see what happens.

No need to put words in my mouth. I can **** up by myself (but I don’t think I said anything wrong in that post).

 

[Proud Shark]

Do you put him right back in if that combination wins all of the up coming games that Nicho is unavailable leading into the finals? Maybe disrupting the harmony of the team (maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t).

If the rest of the team plays ****, but Tricky kicks us out of trouble and he and Atkinson are individually brilliant to get us those wins, I think there's a conversation to be had.

If the whole team continues to step up and the halves are able to finish well, then Nicho comes straight back in IMO.

If the rest of the team is cooking, I back Nicho to add to that. It wasn't Nicho's fault that the entire team started dishing up trash, he's only responsible for his own trash.

 

[Western Sharkie]

If the rest of the team plays ****, but Tricky kicks us out of trouble and he and Atkinson are individually brilliant to get us those wins, I think there's a conversation to be had.

If the whole team continues to step up and the halves are able to finish well, then Nicho comes straight back in IMO.

If the rest of the team is cooking, I back Nicho to add to that. It wasn't Nicho's fault that the entire team started dishing up trash, he's only responsible for his own trash.

Yep fair.

 

[bort]

You gotta give credit to the two plebs also before Hynes got injured, they won games for us without him and some games Trindall was the better half when paired together

They didn’t win many games without him (2 wasn’t it?), but those were factored in.

If Trindall could be the better half with Nicho before he could do it with him again.
Maybe he was the ‘better half’ because of the work Nicho did as the 7 and not despite it

 

[SharkShocked]

He will.
But SHOULD he?

That all depends on how the team goes without him over the next 4-6 weeks I guess

Depends if you judge a bloke over the first 10 rounds or the last 4 rounds or over the last 2 years.

Nicho is the guy, they've all backed him. They will all back him to get back to his best.

I have absolutely no doubt that the squad is significantly more dangerous with him fit and firing. Are there some changes to make to assist him and taking some of the pressure of him from an organisational and kicking perspective... yes. Are there other players who need to do more for the team to excel....absolutely.

But you are kidding if you think the team isn't stronger as a whole with him included.

Definitely everyone is getting carried away.

 

[MrDravid]

Did I say he shouldn’t?

Pretty sure I posted “That all depends on how the team goes without him over the next 4-6 weeks I guess”

So let me then ask you,

Do you put him right back in if that combination wins all of the up coming games that Nicho is unavailable leading into the finals? Maybe disrupting the harmony of the team (maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t).

That still depends on his fitness and confidence IMHO.

I never said no. I did however say, let’s see what happens.

No need to put words in my mouth. I can **** up by myself (but I don’t think I said anything wrong in that post).

Wasn't at all meant to be a dig at you, more of a general question.

Do I think even if we win the next 7 games and then Nicho is fit, he comes back into the team? Probably, but obviously, plenty of water to go under that bridge (and the reality is Nicho may not be fit anyway). I hope we win the next 7 games and FItz gets that headache.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Wasn't at all meant to be a dig at you, more of a general question.

Do I think even if we win the next 7 games and then Nicho is fit, he comes back into the team? Probably, but obviously, plenty of water to go under that bridge (and the reality is Nicho may not be fit anyway). I hope we win the next 7 games and FItz gets that headache.

Agreed.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Depends if you judge a bloke over the first 10 rounds or the last 4 rounds or over the last 2 years.

Nicho is the guy, they've all backed him. They will all back him to get back to his best.

I have absolutely no doubt that the squad is significantly more dangerous with him fit and firing. Are there some changes to make to assist him and taking some of the pressure of him from an organisational and kicking perspective... yes. Are there other players who need to do more for the team to excel....absolutely.

But you are kidding if you think the team isn't stronger as a whole with him included.

Definitely everyone is getting carried away.

100%.

I never said we should stick it out without him.
I did say “let’s see what happens” and he needs to be “fit” which is what I’m getting at “and firing” would be nice too.

If he ain’t fit (at the very least), then don’t rush him back “just cos“ (especially if the 2 in the role are “firing”).

 

[HaroldBishop]

Can't believe @Western Sharkie is such a Nicho hater. Disappointing.

 

[Vichyssoise]

Can't believe @Western Sharkie is such a Nicho hater. Disappointing.

Had us all fooled last year with his anti-Fittler agenda.