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Is Nicho playing a different role this year? 5 games as a sample now and it feels like he's doing a lot more first reciever and not getting in as much space down the edge.

Tonight's game for example, last year Nicho was in the position to lay on those tries Tricky did.

I recognise it could be my confirmation bias as I picked him up in a SC draft and he's doing half of what he was last year 😅
 

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@BurgoShark stat request.

Is Nicho playing a different role this year? 5 games as a sample now and it feels like he's doing a lot more first reciever and not getting in as much space down the edge.

Tonight's game for example, last year Nicho was in the position to lay on those tries Tricky did.

I recognise it could be my confirmation bias as I picked him up in a SC draft and he's doing half of what he was last year 😅
I’ve noticed that both him and tricky play different sides but Hynes is having abit more trouble making it work on his edge..

You wouldn’t think out of all the players tonight he’s the one that’s the million dollar man
 
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I’ve noticed that both him and tricky play different sides but Hynes is having abit more trouble making it work on his edge..

You wouldn’t think out of all the players tonight he’s the one that’s the million dollar man
I think it's the role. That Katoa try is a good example. I feel like last year that is Moylan at first reciever, Nicho out the back throwing the cut out.

Nicho seems to be that first receiver role far more this year. No doubt he's not at the top of his game at the moment either though.
 

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I think it's the role. That Katoa try is a good example. I feel like last year that is Moylan at first reciever, Nicho out the back throwing the cut out.

Nicho seems to be that first receiver role far more this year. No doubt he's not at the top of his game at the moment either though.
Well the people that want him to be a halfback need to understand that’s what they are going to turn him into.

What a waste
 
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Well the people that want him to be a halfback need to understand that’s what they are going to turn him into.

What a waste
I didn't see an issue with it last year, as I thought he was still getting plenty of space to excel at what he's good at. Haven't seen it so much this year.

You were quite loud about it last year, do you think it's different this year or more of the same?
 

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I didn't see an issue with it last year, as I thought he was still getting plenty of space to excel at what he's good at. Haven't seen it so much this year.

You were quite loud about it last year, do you think it's different this year or more of the same?
I think we are dulling him out by turning him into a first receiver. Plain and simple

It’s also different this year because for example tonight Hynes mostly stayed on one side of the field.

For me he’s worth a lot more to us when we have him running at gaps, playing 2nd receiver and taking on the line
 
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I think we are dulling him out by turning him into a first receiver. Plain and simple

It’s also different this year because for example tonight Hynes mostly stayed on one side of the field.

For me he’s worth a lot more to us when we have him running at gaps, playing 2nd receiver and taking on the line
Yeah agreed I want him running wider. I think he's been playing both sides okay, just more in that middle third than I'd like.
 

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Also needs to stop doing useless runs or probing on his own. Holds onto to the ball too much, organise better or just pass to other players and set up for next play
 

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Yeah agreed I want him running wider. I think he's been playing both sides okay, just more in that middle third than I'd like.
Nah

If he is our million dollar player and he wants to be this amazing halfback him and the coach keep talking about then Im expecting more from him

He needs to figure out what his game is
 

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@BurgoShark stat request.

Is Nicho playing a different role this year? 5 games as a sample now and it feels like he's doing a lot more first reciever and not getting in as much space down the edge.

Tonight's game for example, last year Nicho was in the position to lay on those tries Tricky did.

I recognise it could be my confirmation bias as I picked him up in a SC draft and he's doing half of what he was last year 😅
I think that you have nailed it. Team has evolved with Tricky having a different skillset to Moyza. Nicho is still contributing very well but it's not all up to him.
 

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Yeah agreed I want him running wider. I think he's been playing both sides okay, just more in that middle third than I'd like.
Though depends On the team we are playing, he is more aggressive l. I do think they (Hynes and Trindall ) are finding their way still. And he is still finding those moments he needs to pick. though when both tricky and Hynes combined, there is a try most of the times
 
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@BurgoShark stat request.

Is Nicho playing a different role this year? 5 games as a sample now and it feels like he's doing a lot more first reciever and not getting in as much space down the edge.

Tonight's game for example, last year Nicho was in the position to lay on those tries Tricky did.

I recognise it could be my confirmation bias as I picked him up in a SC draft and he's doing half of what he was last year 😅
I don’t think it is something which can be reflected by stats mate. Could start mapping it, but I wouldn’t have anything to compare to.

In my opinion though, there are some specific things which Tricky does well and some things he struggles at. Their positioning on the shifts tends to reflect that.

E.g. If you look at the Katoa try, or on the Sifa try rd1 or the Ronnie try last week. Trindall can’t throw the pass the Nicho throws in those situations.
 

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I don’t think it is something which can be reflected by stats mate. Could start mapping it, but I wouldn’t have anything to compare to.

In my opinion though, there are some specific things which Tricky does well and some things he struggles at. Their positioning on the shifts tends to reflect that.

E.g. If you look at the Katoa try, or on the Sifa try rd1 or the Ronnie try last week. Trindall can’t throw the pass the Nicho throws in those situations.
Yeah seems like we've gone from Moylan - Hynes - Kennedy - Winger (sometimes no Kennedy), to now Hynes - Tricky - Kennedy - Winger (sometimes no Kennedy).

Either Hynes is not doing the same job Moylan did, or Tricky isn't doing the same job Hynes did (or a bit of both).
 
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I don’t think it is something which can be reflected by stats mate. Could start mapping it, but I wouldn’t have anything to compare to.

In my opinion though, there are some specific things which Tricky does well and some things he struggles at. Their positioning on the shifts tends to reflect that.

E.g. If you look at the Katoa try, or on the Sifa try rd1 or the Ronnie try last week. Trindall can’t throw the pass the Nicho throws in those situations.
Yeah that's what I think. Tricky is less able to play the Moylan role, so the structure this year is more Nicho = 2023 Moylan and Tricky = 2023 Nicho.
 
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Yeah seems like we've gone from Moylan - Hynes - Kennedy - Winger (sometimes no Kennedy), to now Hynes - Tricky - Kennedy - Winger (sometimes no Kennedy).

Either Hynes is not doing the same job Moylan did, or Tricky isn't doing the same job Hynes did (or a bit of both).
Yeah that's what I think. Tricky is less able to play the Moylan role, so the structure this year is more Nicho = 2023 Moylan and Tricky = 2023 Nicho.
That’s not what I meant.

Nicho is playing the same. Nobody is playing the Moylan role. Tricky is playing a new role.
 
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