Official Nicho Hynes

[Milkshark]

Nope.


I certainly don't hold it against him that he had a couple of late plays to contribute to the win. I just thought the other three were better across the 80. I also don't think there is any problem with giving points to a guy who made the match winning play, as long as he was otherwise in the mix. I am just opposed to giving points to some guy who had a bludger of a game and then had some nice touches late (like Reece Walsh).

Brailey's involvement late probably factored in to me giving him the nod over the other two guys for the 3, and defence was a big factor in picking those other two guys.

Ultimately it is pretty easy to pick a 3-2-1 from that game though. Lots of good players and a lot of "set for set" footy where the whole squad needs to do their jobs. I think in that game as long as you didn't pick Hunt, Nikora or Williams nobody can really argue that the guy didn't earn a point.

Appreciate the explanation. Yeah their were a few HM’s the in the 3, 2, 1 thread. A real broad range of players picked.

Hopefully the the same again this week.

 

[Milkshark]

The fact that Nicho won Dally M at 7 when he says himself he is more of a 6 just shows the talent the guy has.

For fun, could Cleary play 6 and 7? Or even 1? Nope.

Because we know Hynes can play all 3 spots. The guy is a star.

 

[Proud Shark]

I agree

if he’s saying what his strengths and what he likes best then you do whatever to accommodate to get the best out of him

It's the coach's responsibility to do what he thinks is best for the team though. Which at this stage must be Nicho playing 7.

I don't disagree though, if we see a Tricky and Nicho partnership down the line, I think it will likely be with Tricky playing as an organising 7 and letting Nicho call the ball whenever he wants it. A similar style relationship to Chad and Jimmy. Jimmy still dominated the game for us when he wanted the ball and also kicked very well.

 

[Tiger Shark]

The fact that Nicho won Dally M at 7 when he says himself he is more of a 6 just shows the talent the guy has.

For fun, could Cleary play 6 and 7? Or even 1? Nope.

Because we know Hynes can play all 3 spots. The guy is a star.

Yep, he's our best 6. 7 and 1 - probably give other positions a red hot crack too.

Glad we have him locked up, now we just need to strengthen our forwards imo and we're looking at some good times ahead.

 

[BurgoShark]

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Yep, he's our best 6. 7 and 1 - probably give other positions a red hot crack too.

Glad we have him locked up, now we just need to strengthen our forwards imo and we're looking at some good times ahead.

Nicho to prop?

 

[Proud Shark]

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Nicho to prop?

Lock*

 

[Gards]

Being an attacking team and turning the ball over in the oppositions end is all fine and good if you can back it up with good line speed and contact to take advantage of that field position and your discipline is in order not giving away penalties ect. Otherwise the opposition is probably getting themselves back down your end to attack your line anyway.

Line speed and discipline is still a work in progress for us but when we get it together we will be a much tougher team to pressure and get a win over. Our attack is already humming so it's the other stuff we need to keep improving on.

The ingredients are there to be one of the better teams in the comp again it's just about execution and doing it consistently. Some teams can do the defense and discipline thing, heck even completing sets at a high level ect. but their attack is so pedestrian they are still not gunna win many games so I am glad our team have that side of things covered because being good in attack isn't an easy thing.

Defending is tough too but it's more straightforward, more down to attitude, fitness, basic structure and communication. Ofcourse you need tackle technique too but anyone can be taught that. There are things Hynes can do that fall back on instinct and talent, things that can be hard to coach.

Hynes providing he can get the team to go with him week to week is going to win us a premiership or 2. Some very strong clubs have fallen away somewhat so we are well placed for a real shot.

 

[Vichyssoise]

When all is said and done and Sharkpark is officially renamed "Nicho Hynes Playground" in a few years time, we should erect a statue to Barry Russell near the entrance.

If it wasn't for him and the whole email saga that eventually led to Flanno being shown the door, we'd be stuck with FlanJu at 7 and bemoaning our bad luck. In fact, I'll go as far as say that he's the main reason why Flanno hasn't got a head coach gig yet. Nobody wants him to bring Junior over.

So All Hail Nicho the Great and kiss Barry's feet in the same motion. And I'm only half-joking.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Yep, he's our best 6. 7 and 1 - probably give other positions a red hot crack too.

Glad we have him locked up, now we just need to strengthen our forwards imo and we're looking at some good times ahead.

Can we clone him?

 

[Sparkles]

It's the coach's responsibility to do what he thinks is best for the team though. Which at this stage must be Nicho playing 7.

I don't disagree though, if we see a Tricky and Nicho partnership down the line, I think it will likely be with Tricky playing as an organising 7 and letting Nicho call the ball whenever he wants it. A similar style relationship to Chad and Jimmy. Jimmy still dominated the game for us when he wanted the ball and also kicked very well.

I reckon Nicho wants his hands on the ball as much as possible and Fitz is smart enough to let him. He might give that up playing alongside Cleary, but does anyone really want Nicho to be less involved for Tricky?

 

[Proud Shark]

I reckon Nicho wants his hands on the ball as much as possible and Fitz is smart enough to let him. He might give that up playing alongside Cleary, but does anyone really want Nicho to be less involved for Tricky?

I don't think anyone wants Nicho to be less involved. He definitely would be in the origin arena though, I agree.

 

[Wiz]

I reckon Nicho wants his hands on the ball as much as possible and Fitz is smart enough to let him. He might give that up playing alongside Cleary, but does anyone really want Nicho to be less involved for Tricky?

You don’t want him too involved to the point it makes him erratic and mistakes creep in.

It happened a few times last year, you want him primed and ready to tear sides apart as soon as the gap/opportunity is there in a game

It’s a long season it’s a marathon not a sprint

 

[Proud Shark]

You don’t want him too involved to the point it makes him erratic and mistakes creep in.

It happened a few times last year, you want him primed and ready to tear sides apart as soon as the gap/opportunity is there in a game

It’s a long season it’s a marathon not a sprint

How can you determine whether mistakes are made because he's having a bad game, or because he is under too much pressure/has too much responsibility? It seems like something that would be hard to know without hearing it from the horses mouth.

 

[HaroldBishop]

How can you determine whether mistakes are made because he's having a bad game, or because he is under too much pressure/has too much responsibility? It seems like something that would be hard to know without hearing it from the horses mouth.

Nicho's nickname is Mr Ed?

 

[Sharkfox]

He can still be the dominant half, get the ball more and be involved when ever he calls it. It will be good for him to have someone else share the organising, game management and kicking.

You don’t want him too involved to the point it makes him erratic and mistakes creep in

Yep, he was trying to do too much

We need both halves to share the duties if we want to go all the way in finals.

 

[Wiz]

How can you determine whether mistakes are made because he's having a bad game, or because he is under too much pressure/has too much responsibility? It seems like something that would be hard to know without hearing it from the horses mouth.

Just like him saying he likes to take a backseat and pick his moments ?

 

[Proud Shark]

Just like him saying he likes to take a backseat and pick his moments ?

Compared to him saying he wants to be the guy and wants the ball in his hands when the pressure is on?

 

[Wiz]

Compared to him saying he wants to be the guy and wants the ball in his hands when the pressure is on?

You’re taking away from the point that he said he likes to play second receiver and take his moments.. that doesn’t mean he can’t take control when he wants.

my reply was to someone saying we want the ball in his hands as much as possible Which at times last year was detrimental

He likes to play like a 6 and that’s ok

 

[Proud Shark]

You’re taking away from the point that he said he likes to play second receiver and take his moments.. that doesn’t mean he can’t take control when he wants.

my reply was to someone saying we want the ball in his hands as much as possible Which at times last year was detrimental

He likes to play like a 6 and that’s ok

Actually you said he was making mistakes because he was touching the ball too often. I asked how can you determine that was the case without hearing him or fitz say that was the reason. You followed up with a quote from Nicho that didn't really relate to the initial question, so I followed suit.

Him saying he likes to pick his moments doesn't mean he was making mistakes because he had too many touches. I was trying to understand how you got to that conclusion.

 

[Wiz]

Actually you said he was making mistakes because he was touching the ball too often. I asked how can you determine that was the case without hearing him or fitz say that was the reason. You followed up with a quote from Nicho that didn't really relate to the initial question, so I followed suit.

Him saying he likes to pick his moments doesn't mean he was making mistakes because he had too many touches. I was trying to understand how you got to that conclusion.

Watch the games last year it happens when he was trying to do too much.. he got a little sloppy . feel free to disagree