NFL 2008/09

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The Actual season kicks off in 10 days (well for my team anyways)

Anyone here follow it?

I go for the Giants, we just lost one of our best Defensive Linesmen in Osi for the season.. Damaged his knee in a pre-season game against the Jets..

But apparently Strahan said he would come out of retirement (his 77 day retirement) for $8 million dollars... If we can talk to him down to 7ish its worth it we are week in the DE position now...

I was thinking a 11-5 season,
But now with Osi out and Plaxico still not healthy...
Maybea 9-7 record is more realistic...

Whats your guys thoughts on your teams and such...
 

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hoping that aaron rodgers can pull through for all packers fans. making the playoffs will be a big achievement after all this crap surrounding brett favre. im still disappointed in him.

why do all my heros being disapponiting towards me this year? to complete the pain would be lebron wanting out of the cavs which could happen in 2 yrs, ut thats ages away.

but back to the nfl. id say the patriots will be very difficult to beat this year. still got the same talent and will still be hurting after the superbowl defeat
 

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I gotta give a big Rep to the Packers staff for not accepting back favre and tellin him that they have moved on with rodgers...

That was a honorable thing to do and i think packers will be very good under rodgers
 

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could usain bolt have an nfl career

Could Olympic gold-medal sprinter Bolt charge into the NFL?
Gil Brandt By Gil Brandt | NFL.com

Someone asked me the other day what I thought about the idea of making Olympic gold-medal sprinter Usain Bolt a football player. Let's put it this way: If Hall of Fame general manager Tex Schramm and I were still running the Cowboys, we'd be in Jamaica right now waiting for Bolt's plane to land.

That's not to say anyone can predict what the fastest human being alive might do on a football field. But in a sport that places such a premium on raw speed, why not take a chance on a guy who just shattered world records?

Bolt electrified the Olympics this week as he set records in both the 100-meter and 200-meter events. He became the first Olympian since Carl Lewis in 1984 to win gold in both those races.

FYI, we drafted Lewis in the 12th round of the 1984 draft. It was a calculated risk; Lewis never signed with Dallas.

We had set the ultimate precedent for that 20 years earlier, when we used our seventh-round draft pick on a marginal running back from tiny Florida A&M. Of course, it wasn't his skills as a running back that impressed us. We drafted Bob Hayes for one reason and one reason only: speed.

I first met Hayes in the spring of 1963, when I was introduced to him by Florida A&M coach Jake Gaither. The Cowboys just loved fast guys, and we felt he was worth a shot. Teams were allowed to draft players back then even if they still had a year of eligibility left, so we took Hayes in the 1964 draft -- which was actually held in December 1963.

Hayes had already set records in track, but his finest moments as a sprinter came later, in the 1964 Summer Games. Hayes set a then-world record of 10 seconds flat in winning gold in the 100 meters (even though he was running in a lane that had been badly worn from a race the day before). And in the 4 x 100 relay, he led an amazing come-from-behind victory with a 100-meter leg that was unofficially timed at 8.6 seconds.

When Hayes arrived in Dallas, we moved him to wide receiver to best take advantage of his speed, and it proved to be a wise move.

As a rookie with the Cowboys in 1965, Hayes caught 46 passes for 12 touchdowns and was selected to the Pro Bowl. After his first three seasons in Dallas, Hayes had a total of 159 receptions and 35 touchdowns -- an incredible average of one touchdown every 4.5 catches.

When you consider that the Cowboys ran the football 56 percent of the time back then, and they played a 14-game season, well, it's no wonder his teammates nicknamed him "Speedo." Not only did Hayes excel at receiver, but in 1968 he led the NFL with a 20.8-yard punt return average, returning two punts for scores (to go along with 10 TD catches -- his fourth consecutive season with at least 10).

While it's true that offensive schemes were much simpler in those days, Cowboys head coach Tom Landry did find creative ways to get Hayes the football. Not that it wasn't enough just to send Hayes deep every week. But Landry did something that was quite new at the time: He would have Hayes line up on the outside, take a step back as the ball is snapped and get a quick pass from the quarterback. The wide receiver screen was born.

With Hayes running the receiver screen, it was an unbelievably dangerous play. I remember former Giants cornerback Dick Lynch was once asked about Hayes' speed and he said, "Well, I remember one game when he caught a quick screen at the 45-yard line. I started out even with him -- and by time he crossed the goal line he was 10 yards ahead of me."

Simply put, Hayes did more to change defenses than anyone to come into the league at that time. His ability to stretch the defense forced coaches to adjust the basic zone defenses they were using at the time.

It remains a major bone of contention to me that he is still not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Nobody will convince me that he doesn't belong. That said, he remains the only athlete to win both an Olympic gold medal and a Super Bowl ring.

In 1982, we lost out to the 49ers in our effort to sign another world-class track star, hurdler Renaldo Nehemiah. If not for America's boycott of the Moscow Olympics in 1980, the reigning world-record holder in the 110-meter hurdles at the time, likely would have matched Hayes' amazing double. He played three seasons for the 49ers and was part of the 1984 team that won Super Bowl XIX.

Other athletes to make the transition from the track to the turf include Ron Brown, Willie Gault and James Jett. Interestingly, all three, at one point in their NFL careers, played for Al Davis' Raiders.

Of course, that doesn't mean signing Olympic speedsters is a no-brainer.

Three years after we drafted Hayes, the Miami Dolphins tried to follow suit. Jimmy Hines was a sprinter from Texas Southern who did in the 1968 Olympics exactly what Hayes had done four years prior. Hines broke Hayes' Olympic record in the 100 meters, and he led an amazing comeback win in the 4x100 relay with a blazing anchor leg.

The Dolphins had drafted him in the sixth round in 1968, and they signed him just four days after the Olympics.

But Hines was no Hayes. In fact, it didn't take long before Hines earned a nickname of his own. The Dolphins called him "Oops" -- because that's what he said every time he dropped a pass in practice, which was often. Hines caught a total of four passes in parts of two NFL seasons.

So would Usain Bolt make it in the NFL?

There's no way of knowing for sure. He's got a tremendous body. The thing that would concern me is that he's such a long strider. Those long legs help him run fast, but they wouldn't do a lot of good making cuts.

That said, he could probably fly past most any cornerback. If he had any hands at all, he'd be scary. Certainly worth giving him a look if you're a team in need at receiver.

You never know when you might strike gold.
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HAHA they chase anyone these days...

Like turning hester in to a WR, I member he dropped like 3 certain touchdowns in 2 weeks...

But if Bolt can catch, JESUS that would be scary...VERY VERY scary
 

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id say the patriots will be very difficult to beat this year. still got the same talent and will still be hurting after the superbowl defeat

i follow the patriots. in fact im wearing their jersey right now
 

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i follow the patriots. in fact im wearing their jersey right now
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LOL!

sorry couldn't help myself.

giants won the season opener 16-7 verse the redskins. thoughts dier?

First half was Great

Nice defence
Great running game
Passing game complimented the running game


2nd half Average at best

Defence still BRILLIANT!
Stopped running the ball and passed more which didn't play in to eli's hands having a very average 2nd half

Still won though, Eli only passed like 15 balls in the preseason so I expect to see an improvement next week..

Plaxico was outstanding catching some balls other wouldn't of in double coverage....
Brandon Jacobs was Bone crunching good...
 

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LOL!

sorry couldn't help myself.



First half was Great

Nice defence
Great running game
Passing game complimented the running game


2nd half Average at best

Defence still BRILLIANT!
Stopped running the ball and passed more which didn't play in to eli's hands having a very average 2nd half

Still won though, Eli only passed like 15 balls in the preseason so I expect to see an improvement next week..

Plaxico was outstanding catching some balls other wouldn't of in double coverage....
Brandon Jacobs was Bone crunching good...

i saw the first half of the giants/redskins game before i had to go to work and the redskins defense was just getting raped. not a very attractive win for the giants
 

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yeh they will really struggle right now without him. but i think they are a professional enough team to turn it around and still have a good year. wonder who the new QB is gonna be?

packs 1st game tomorrow against the vikings. cmon a-rodge
 

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yeh they will really struggle right now without him. but i think they are a professional enough team to turn it around and still have a good year. wonder who the new QB is gonna be?

packs 1st game tomorrow against the vikings. cmon a-rodge

Matt Cassel ( dont no about the spellin) he played 3 and a hlaf quarters today and had 1 td and like 13/18 and a good amount of yards ( too lazy to look up exact stats)

Wont last for ever though
 

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packers won their first game against the vikings 24-19. rodgers went well and i bet there is no more relieved man in the world right now
 

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Yer Rodgers played well brad, also Joe Flacco for us had a solid debut which was great to see....and what about Michael Turner's debut for the Atlanta Falcons 22 carrys 220 yds & 2 TD's.
 

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yeh hes always been talented but has been stuck behind tomlinson at san diego for a while
 
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