Official Matt Moylan

[andrew's_sharks]

2 years is okay. Hopefully we do hold onto dykes. It takes some time to develop young halves and Dykes and Trindall both have futures in the NRL best to be part of a winning team.

 

[Sevshark]

Feels harsh given he’s had more than a 4 year career

Wonder if we could pay him 500k to make the second season a CO…

I think that their is a fair argument that he skated by on his natural talent for most of his early career. Not saying that to be dismissive, he played origin and internationals during that time.

From a pure fitness stand point I think fair to say he has never been in this kind of shape before.

 

[Sparkles]

Clarkey posted something earlier today asking who fans think is worth 1 mill a year.

Lots of people must of heard about Chad's e-mail because his name was being featured alot.

Chad's name? Worth at least a million to the forum

 

[Sparkles]

Hopefully we hold onto Dykes.

I hope he doesn't levee

 

[Sevshark]

Chad's name? Worth at least a million to the forum

Can we send a cease and desist to North Queensland for copyright infringement?

 

[bort]

I think that their is a fair argument that he skated by on his natural talent for most of his early career. Not saying that to be dismissive, he played origin and internationals during that time.

From a pure fitness stand point I think fair to say he has never been in this kind of shape before.

Yeah I guess but I assume he was pretty fit and in shape as a top NRL fullback

Agree it’s likely the most effort he’s ever put into his body.
I’d say he was probably fitter then than he is now but with a lot of that being spritely pre injury youth, now he’s back at a good level but he’s had to really work for it.

 

[Sevshark]

Yeah I guess but I assume he was pretty fit and in shape as a top NRL fullback

Agree it’s likely the most effort he’s ever put into his body.
I’d say he was probably fitter then than he is now but with a lot of that being spritely pre injury youth, now he’s back at a good level but he’s had to really work for it.

All valid points bort.

I do remember hearing Gus say something along the lines that he has never seen him in this kind of shape as well but very possible I'm misquoting.

 

[bort]

All valid points bort.

I do remember hearing Gus say something along the lines that he has never seen him in this kind of shape as well but very possible I'm misquoting.

Yeah probably a shape vs fitness question.
Depending how you want to define he’s probably in better shape now but likely has been as fit if not fitter when a top FB.

 

[Bundy Shark]

As do I mate. Guess the big selling point is that this is the first time in his career that he's been in genuinely great shape and hasn't been having those injury issues.

coincidentally????? I tend to think not..…
he was given a one year deal & this has seen a shift in his attitude & performance come off the back of it.

I really think, for me, one year deals, this is the way forward with him for more than a few reasons, give him decent money but all requires him to back himself & put in as a pro athlete outside of game day as well

 

[Sevshark]

coincidentally????? I tend to think not..…
he was given a one year deal & this has seen a shift in his attitude & performance come off the back of it.

I really think, for me, one year deals, this is the way forward with him for more than a few reasons, give him decent money but all requires him to back himself & put in as a pro athlete outside of game day as well

Completely agree mate

 

[Wizard]

coincidentally????? I tend to think not..…
he was given a one year deal & this has seen a shift in his attitude & performance come off the back of it.

I really think, for me, one year deals, this is the way forward with him for more than a few reasons, give him decent money but all requires him to back himself & put in as a pro athlete outside of game day as well

We will never be a top tier team with Moylan in the halves… what a waste of 400k I guarantee we will end up re signing Nikora for about 600k then re sign Graham for 400k as well. Such ruthless recruitment

 

[snowman]

We will never be a top tier team with Moylan in the halves… what a waste of 400k I guarantee we will end up re signing Nikora for about 600k then re sign Graham for 400k as well. Such ruthless recruitment

with whats on the market right now, who is your suggestion for the 6 jersey?

 

[Wizard]

with whats on the market right now, who is your suggestion for the 6 jersey?

Go hard for Munster or Moses or even stick with Trindall save $ and develop him for a year then go into the market if still no good.. now we have Moylan we would have to re sign trindall for a back up half and by then we’re probably about 600k (200k min for Trindall) out of pocket and still short of an elite half for the next 2 years.

We should honestly save money and roll with Trindall for a year if it works it works if it doesn’t there’s potentially Dykes who would only be 2nd in line or we go into the market with big $ ..now we’re just stuck with Moylan

 

[burgess1978]

Go hard for Munster or Moses or even stick with Trindall save $ and develop him for a year then go into the market if still no good.. now we have Moylan we would have to re sign trindall for a back up half and by then we’re probably about 600k (200k min for Trindall) out of pocket and still short of an elite half for the next 2 years.

We should honestly save money and roll with Trindall for a year if it works it works if it doesn’t there’s potentially Dykes who would only be 2nd in line or we go into the market with big $ ..now we’re just stuck with Moylan

You know we don’t have to pick Moylan right? If Trindall actually becomes better than him in the next two years, we are allowed to put Moylan in reggies, or worst-case pay some of his contract to move him on. You are speaking as if every NRL contract is etched in stone and salary is the deciding factor in team selections.

If we were to sign one of the guys you suggest for 2024, take a hit for one year and move Moylan on - easy.

 

[Wizard]

You know we don’t have to pick Moylan right? If Trindall actually becomes better than him in the next two years, we are allowed to put Moylan in reggies, or worst-case pay some of his contract to move him on. You are speaking as if every NRL contract is etched in stone and salary is the deciding factor in team selections.

If we were to sign one of the guys you suggest for 2024, take a hit for one year and move Moylan on - easy.

But we do have to pay him 800k burg

 

[Sparkles]

with whats on the market right now, who is your suggestion for the 6 jersey?

What's being on the market got to do with signing a player?

 

[bort]

What's being on the market got to do with signing a player?

Not sure we have the right peoples brothers at Sharks.

I guess we could sign some bottom 4 players and try get them early...

 

[snowman]

Go hard for Munster or Moses or even stick with Trindall save $ and develop him for a year then go into the market if still no good.. now we have Moylan we would have to re sign trindall for a back up half and by then we’re probably about 600k (200k min for Trindall) out of pocket and still short of an elite half for the next 2 years.

We should honestly save money and roll with Trindall for a year if it works it works if it doesn’t there’s potentially Dykes who would only be 2nd in line or we go into the market with big $ ..now we’re just stuck with Moylan

so no one attainable, or trindall, who is terrible? ok

 

[burgess1978]

But we do have to pay him 800k burg

It’s not my money, and in fact it’s not even the Sharks’ money. It just equates to 2.5-3.5% of a made up number which tells them how much of of someone else’s money they are allowed to spend…

and you don’t necessarily pay him the whole $800k…

$400k for 2023, a year where the Sharks currently have a gazillion dollars in cap space AND the cap is going up.

Who knows in 2024. Could pay $150k and someone else takes him if he doesn’t fit the plans. Nice insurance policy for if none of the young guys or market targets pan out.

 

[Sevshark]

Go hard for Munster or Moses or even stick with Trindall save $ and develop him for a year then go into the market if still no good.. now we have Moylan we would have to re sign trindall for a back up half and by then we’re probably about 600k (200k min for Trindall) out of pocket and still short of an elite half for the next 2 years.

We should honestly save money and roll with Trindall for a year if it works it works if it doesn’t there’s potentially Dykes who would only be 2nd in line or we go into the market with big $ ..now we’re just stuck with Moylan

Munster will NEVER move to Sydney so everyone can just stop pretending we have any chance of getting him.