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We were happy to pay him around 350k to take the risk he wouldn't break. Given good start Mooney Fitz perhaps prepared to repeat the risk.
If he played the rest of the season at same quality it will cost us more to retain him you'd think.

I agree I think some people confused the injury disruption frustration and a fairly brief period where he got swapped back and forth between fullback and 5/8 and struggled into thinking he had extended bad periods of play for us. He has been overwhelmingly solid or good for us when healthy and playing one position.

To CM, only real stinkers I can think of are during the period we kept moving him (crowd applauding him catching a kick even). Don't think there has been too many others but I certainly won't claim a perfect memory.

Nah there’s no confusion, he’s had some stinkers at 5/8th as well from memory.

I respect and appreciate everyones opinion on this but I just dont agree with rushing into any kind of commitment to Matty for next season this early into the current one given his history, I dont see the harm in waiting and seeing how things play out with Matty. Just how I see it.
 
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Nah there’s no confusion, he’s had some stinkers at 5/8th as well from memory.

I respect and appreciate everyones opinion on this but I just dont agree with rushing into any kind of commitment to Matty for next season this early into the current one given his history, I dont see the harm in waiting and seeing how things play out with Matty. Just how I see it.
Fair point, but opening negs (which can take a while) and signing a contract are 2 different things. No harm in having a chat and saying, “if you can stay healthy and keep playing well, we would like to keep you on” - contract pending….
 

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I could see the Dolphins offerering $400K plus for next year.
Maybe why Fitz is being proactive
 

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Dolphins have already signed the young Penrith half... and could probably chase Milford or Ash Taylor for cheaper then Moylan.
 

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Nah there’s no confusion, he’s had some stinkers at 5/8th as well from memory.

I respect and appreciate everyones opinion on this but I just dont agree with rushing into any kind of commitment to Matty for next season this early into the current one given his history, I dont see the harm in waiting and seeing how things play out with Matty. Just how I see it.
He has, a few of them while he was in that period he really couldn't stay healthy or in a particular jersey. Surely also some others but overwhelmingly he has been okay or better when playing a position consistently.

2018 played 22 games of FE and 2 of FB - 15.5 MVP votes from us 0.65 per game
2019 played 0 games of FE and 11 games of FB - 8 MVP votes from us 0.73 per game
2020 played 4 games of FE and 3 games of FB (and one off bench) - 0 MVP votes
2021 played 12 games of FE and 0 games of FB (and three off bench) - 10.5 MVP votes from us 0.7 per game

So stinkers aside overall he has done pretty solidly in three out of 4 seasons when playing.

Given we gambled on him for this season under same staff not surprising they are looking at doing the same around a quarter of way into season where he has so far been good. As Westie mentioned, could be months until anything gets locked in.

Also at this stage with Metcalf confirmed leaving Moylans retention is probably a lot more attractive for Fitz - could well be a different story if we had extended Metcalf or he was currently unsigned still.
 

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I hope Mozza tempers his expectations around a pay bump and doesn't get too greedy - the bloke stole from us between 2019 - 2020. He was essentially a paid physio and rehab client that got free tixs to Sharks games on the weekend.

I hope he can appreciate that and not forgot. it would be nice to help the club balance that out somewhat (smooth out the financial edges so to speak, make it hurt a bit less) though I can appreciate that the salary cap and ladder position from seasons past isn't really relevant to this season and next as well so you can look at it that way too.

Give him same deal as this season for 2023 (maybe a small increase) , that is fair considering the huge coin he was on while warming the grand stands and it's only been 6 rounds into 2022.

We have been patient with him, he can do us a solid in helping us balance our cap and win a premiership OR he can take a larger offer (if any come through that is) from another club (likely new club or lower on ladder) and get thrown under the bus as soon as things go pair shaped.

Ben Ross came back to us and played on a cheese and biscuits contract acknowledging he didn't live up to the big coin contract he previously had with us.

All the rose colored glasses coming out on this bloke now haha yes he is talented and has quality in his game and through 2018, 2021 & 2022 he has been mostly good when he strings the games together. I do like the bloke and I think he has a crack most of the time but seriously he really was a mong at points in 2018 and pretty poor over 2019-2020 not helped by serious injury time.

How can you be a first grade NRL player on $850k and not be able to catch or pass a ball LOL. Dugan had the same dramas, another notoriously over priced player who was good for us when he wanted to be

We are a better team with him on the field generally speaking though so depending how much Fitz values that and wants to fight for it with the vision he has for this team over the next 20 months or so I guess is gunna determine the offer along with what market options may be presented
 

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We’re only 6 games into the season, yes he’s been good for those 6 games, but what if his lower limbs break again? What if he falls back into old infuriating shitty Moylan ways? It doesn’t make sense to me to rush into anything with a guy with his history.
To clarify - for the most part it wasn't that he couldn't play, just that he didn't want to play
 

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He has definitely had an attitude shift over the off season which would have started with him getting his body recovery and training a big focus and priority.

This has translated to a more consistent performance and has paid dividends on his overall health. He looks happier, playing better and at this stage remaining injury free. It is great to see him become an integral part of this team.

I apologise in advance if I have jinxed him.

How does all this translate to contract negotiations? No idea but I'm enjoying watching his combination grow with Hynes, Kennedy and our edges (both sides!).
 

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Contract year!!! (Who would of thought)

Just coming off a long term contract where he has been predominately injured. But can find it in himself to get fit come time for a new contract.

Would rather they didn’t but max. One year if no better options for mine (wouldn’t be in a rush to sign him either)
 

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I disagree with the first part, he hasnt been good in every single game he’s played for us, far from it. He’s had some good games, some fantastic games, but he’s also had his fair share of stinkers.

Someone at his stage of his career wont need long to negotiate his contract, its not like he’s going to be in high demand.
his bad games have been at fullback, he has been solid at 6 since he has been here
 
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Rumoured, dramatic twist in Cronulla star’s future​

Sharks star Matt Moylan has turned his career around in the space of a few months and is reportedly about to reap the rewards.


Sharks star Matt Moylan has gone from the outhouse to the penthouse in the space of a few months.
The playmaker was instrumental in Cronulla’s win over the Sea Eagles on Thursday night and his future is looking brighter every time he steps onto the football field in 2022.
Moylan was reportedly forced to accept a one-year, cut-price contract last year as a result of a form slump.

He remains uncontracted beyond the 2022 season, but it has now emerged the 30-year-old’s career will be extended into at least 2023.
The Daily Telegraph’s Phil Rothfield reports the former Panthers captain is wanted at the Sharks next year and coach Craig Fitzgibbon is ready to talk deals.
“Interesting with Moylan, they only signed him for one year because they weren’t convinced in the off-season that his head was right, that he was putting in to justify his salary,” Rothfield said on Fox League’s NRL 360.
“But Fitzy said, and I spoke to him this afternoon, they’re ready to talk again.
“He’s shown them enough in six weeks that Fitzy wants to sit down and talk next year.”
The situation has taken a dramatic twist with a suggestion on Friday, Moylan may have attracted the eye of Dolphins coach Wayne Bennett.
The veteran coach is reportedly getting desperate in searching for players as the new franchise prepares to enter the NRL next year.
Channel 7’s Michelle Bishop told SEN she would not be surprised if Bennett swooped to trump any offer the Sharks were prepared to put to Moylan.

“He’s very comfortable in his role at the moment with Nicho Hynes,” she said.
“I called them the odd couple and I was worried about if that was ever going to work. And it has.
“I’m just going to put it out there, with his performance and even last night, I won’t be surprised if Bennett and the Dolphins don’t come and have at least a conversation with Allan Gainey, his manager, if the Sharks only offer a one-year deal.
“His utility value is really solid if he stays injury free that is. He’s such a good buy at the right price.”
Teammates said during the pre-season Moylan had impressed them with his performances.
Braden Hamlin-Uele declared Moylan had been in “scary” form heading into the start of the year.
It comes after reports the Dolphins have signed Panthers playmaker Sean O’Sullivan.
O’Sullivan impressed in the No. 7 jersey in the opening three games of the season while Nathan Cleary was injured.
“The other thing I think we’ll find in the next few weeks will be (the Dolphins) halfback next year will be Sean O’Sullivan from the Panthers,” Phil Rothfield said on NRL 360 this week.
“He is only on a one-year deal at Penrith. He was outstanding early on. Admittedly, he was spinning the football to a great backline at Penrith.”
 

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A solid keep but not worth fighting for, if he can get an extra 100k+ or longer deal he should take it.

Current price I’d be okay going to two years. Maybe a little more for one year.
 
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