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That’s an interesting one

For starters do you really think he’d go back there?

But also what’s your theory on their backline?
Young Best Gagai Marzhew is already pretty solid I’d say. Are you suggesting they should move Gagai to fullback sign Ramien and that’s how they play Ponga at 6 (in 2024)?
Or they could not retain Young and move Gagai to wing I suppose
Best is starting to build quite the injury history and not really living up to the hype - potential remains I guess ..
 

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Best is starting to build quite the injury history and not really living up to the hype - potential remains I guess ..
True but probably on decent coin and signed for next two years. Be tough to buy an expensive player over the top of that. They have okay fills ins

He’s a second rower but Jones did a number on us filling in there a couple years back
 

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That’s an interesting one

For starters do you really think he’d go back there?

But also what’s your theory on their backline?
Young Best Gagai Marzhew is already pretty solid I’d say. Are you suggesting they should move Gagai to fullback sign Ramien and that’s how they play Ponga at 6 (in 2024)?
Or they could not retain Young and move Gagai to wing I suppose
I was wondering at first why I didn't remember hearing of a player with such a long weird name.
 
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You can't underestimate the work both he and Sifa do coming out of our end, can't think of many centre pairings that are better in that area.

He's supposedly on 500k now. With the cap going up 18% that takes him to 590k.

650k isn't that much extra relatively speaking.
No, but it bumps him up to 590k straight away. An extra 60k isn't much.

As I said earlier, I'd prefer him to lost the brain farts though.
Ramien is the one player on the Sharks who may not actually get the 18% raise automatically. Assuming he does though, you're right - an increase of $60k would be a pretty small pay bump.

Based on what has been reported, $650k/year would put him in line with well-paid guys like Gagai and Suli, but still well below the highest paid centres (Holmes, Manu, Lomax and Staggs).
 

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Ramien is the one player on the Sharks who may not actually get the 18% raise automatically. Assuming he does though, you're right - an increase of $60k would be a pretty small pay bump.

Based on what has been reported, $650k/year would put him in line with well-paid guys like Gagai and Suli, but still well below the highest paid centres (Holmes, Manu, Lomax and Staggs).

Yep and personally I'd be taking him ahead of Again and Suli every day of the week.
 

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Yep and personally I'd be taking him ahead of Again and Suli every day of the week.
Me too... except for if you could keep Gagai toggled to 'Origin mode'

Suli actually was pretty good for Dragons, like Talakai (except when he went beast mode) he made a lot of meters for them. But we have Talakai on the other side already doing extra meters so def wouldn't make Suli attractive. And I just think Ramien is better than Suli anyway.
 

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Me too... except for if you could keep Gagai toggled to 'Origin mode'

Suli actually was pretty good for Dragons, like Talakai (except when he went beast mode) he made a lot of meters for them. But we have Talakai on the other side already doing extra meters so def wouldn't make Suli attractive. And I just think Ramien is better than Suli anyway.
Like you I was very unhappy with what we paid him to come back but the last two years he's shown us what he can do and he does it consistently now

Sure, I'd rather pay a bit less but 650k isn't super high with the new cap. As Burger points out it puts him second tier amongst centres which is fair.
 
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Like you I was very unhappy with what we paid him to come back but the last two years he's shown us what he can do and he does it consistently now

Sure, I'd rather pay a bit less but 650k isn't super high with the new cap. As Burger points out it puts him second tier amongst centres which is fair.
He's pretty much been an absolute gun except when playing outside Shaun Johnson or the rotating cast of Knight's five-eighths. Even in 2021 his best footy was played in the back end of the year after SJ got hurt and he was playing outside Trindall most weeks.
 

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Yeah SJ was a shocker for him.

On Bloke podcast Ramien reckons he only took 150k to go to Knights yet reportedly (yeah I know I'm also having a cap argument in another thread) we paid him 500k a year to come back. That doesn't add up. While maybe it's not a full 2 million over four years I think he's rounded down a bit there...

Bloke just needs early ball.
dammit why did you start your post with Bloke makes mine confusing haha
 

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Yeah SJ was a shocker for him.

On Bloke podcast Ramien reckons he only took 150k to go to Knights yet reportedly (yeah I know I'm also having a cap argument in another thread) we paid him 500k a year to come back. That doesn't add up. While maybe it's not a full 2 million over four years I think he's rounded down a bit there...


dammit why did you start your post with Bloke makes mine confusing haha
it wouldnt surprise me if thats what jeese took to go to newcastle, he signed early in 2018 to go to them and hadnt really broken into our team

it wouldnt surprise me if morris went into a one man auction and bid against himself to get him back
 

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Sounded like he woulda taken almost any deal getting him back close to his kid.

How/why we topped his salary up another $350k to get him back off the scrap heap would be an interesting yarn.
 

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Sooooo it seems he has agreed to stay with us for 3 years. Pen to paper should be done before round 1. Has said he doesn’t want to go anywhere.
They also said he’s dropped 10kg from same time last year
 
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