James Shepherd

[sharks2010]

Imo our team offloads are overrated, to many times the player who receives the offload makes very little ground and at times we actually lose meters

 

[Spanner shark]

Do more players become involved in the tackles , to stop the offloads? Surely that helps.

 

[hamsy44]

Imo our team offloads are overrated, to many times the player who receives the offload makes very little ground and at times we actually lose meters

Offloads are good if they are thrown at the right time to the right player - if you can offload to a player coming at pace a lot of the time they can take advantage of the space created by the fact there are a couple of bloke caught in the tackle.

The person offloading needs to pick their time but if every player was always prepared for it and had the mindset to run the ball they would be more effective, if you string 2-3 offloads together with players ready to run forward you can do a lot of damage if the defence is not prepared to bust their gut to cover it.

Offloads for the sake of them are useless cause they do exactly as you have said - lose metres.

 

[Spanner shark]

That's exactly what l mean and what happened against the Warriors. Prior gave sum quality passes that created gaps. Hope they can repeat that this week. The younger players are sweating on them and l might add some of the oldies also. We still can be a suprise package.

 

[endevour shark]

Offloads are good if they are thrown at the right time to the right player - if you can offload to a player coming at pace a lot of the time they can take advantage of the space created by the fact there are a couple of bloke caught in the tackle.

The person offloading needs to pick their time but if every player was always prepared for it and had the mindset to run the ball they would be more effective, if you string 2-3 offloads together with players ready to run forward you can do a lot of damage if the defence is not prepared to bust their gut to cover it.

I agree and the more in a tackle the longer we have to play the ball giving oppo defence plenty of time to get set Agree preferable if we can string to gether quality off load the better.

And in any ball team sport it is often the work off the ball that helps makes the difference , ie dummy runners, quality protection for fullbacks, a good chase after a bomb.

We have more than our share of players who are capable off loading Toops Gal Taga, Prior, Gagan etc But is all about timing and quality.

 

[snowman]

Offloads are good if they are thrown at the right time to the right player - if you can offload to a player coming at pace a lot of the time they can take advantage of the space created by the fact there are a couple of bloke caught in the tackle.

The person offloading needs to pick their time but if every player was always prepared for it and had the mindset to run the ball they would be more effective, if you string 2-3 offloads together with players ready to run forward you can do a lot of damage if the defence is not prepared to bust their gut to cover it.

Offloads for the sake of them are useless cause they do exactly as you have said - lose metres.

spot on

the only 2 players who really know the appropriate times to offload are toops and heino, the guys who have made a career doing it

prior made a couple of good'uns on the weekend

 

[CrankyShark]

Offloads are good if they are thrown at the right time to the right player - if you can offload to a player coming at pace a lot of the time they can take advantage of the space created by the fact there are a couple of bloke caught in the tackle.

The person offloading needs to pick their time but if every player was always prepared for it and had the mindset to run the ball they would be more effective, if you string 2-3 offloads together with players ready to run forward you can do a lot of damage if the defence is not prepared to bust their gut to cover it.

Offloads for the sake of them are useless cause they do exactly as you have said - lose metres.

Also, offloading for the sake of it massively increases the chances of errors. Easy to say I know. As much as I like Fifita, I think he overdoes his offloads and causes us to lose the ball too often. He needs to become a little more selective and less hung ho.

 

[Sutty]

Uh, I think you'll find most of Fifita's offloads tend to be to advantage, he mightn't be Corey Parker but he's no offloading nub. (But yeah, for a perfect example of what good offloading can do, check Origin 3 - Parker completely and utterly destroyed NSW.)

 

[Bundy Shark]

FIFs does have a good offload on him but when doing so is risky as he carries the ball loosely, hence why he seems to blow up all the time when he turns it over, most of the time it's his doing.

 

[SharkShocked]

Helps if as everyone has stated, the players are alive on each play and looming up to support.

As opposed to our attitude "oh hes got the ball and near the defensive line, guess i better get ready for the next hit up into the brick wall infront of me, rather than maybe looking for an offload, gap and try scoring opportunity".

 

[Sutty]

The above makes too much sense SharkShocked! Especially considering we're a team with a go-to play in attack (apart from the Robbo inside ball of course) being the forward-to-forward-short-ball-just-before-the-goal-line-without-drawing-the-defence-off-the-line... Which has to be lowest percentage play ever invented.


At least the mid-field-Gal-short-inside-ball-hospital-pass-to-fullback-especially-when-Nathan-Gardner-is-playing-and-gets-smashed has a theoretical chance of success, if the opponent is blind and retarded.

 

[Bundy Shark]

I hope he is not forgotten for his efforts this yr & has a significant role on the coaching staff next yr.

 

[Western Sharkie]

I hope he is not forgotten for his efforts this yr & has a significant role on the coaching staff next yr.

Head Coach with a Noddy as his assistant.

 

[CrazyMatt]

I hope he is not forgotten for his efforts this yr & has a significant role on the coaching staff next yr.

I'd rather him coaching the 20's, finding us the next Val Holmes. He's good with young players.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

yeah to be honest if Flanno was to be dont come monday'd, id happily see Shepard in the role fulltime. Give him some quality support staff in the assistance and specialist training areas and he could be anything really.

I heard we got rid of (or he left) Fabri? Seems that blokes just brought a bootfull of dodgy hamstrings with him

 

[snowman]

yeah to be honest if Flanno was to be dont come monday'd, id happily see Shepard in the role fulltime. Give him some quality support staff in the assistance and specialist training areas and he could be anything really.

I heard we got rid of (or he left) Fabri? Seems that blokes just brought a bootfull of dodgy hamstrings with him

i wouldnt be happy with shep having the reigns fulltime, i would be happy with him being assistant though

imo, flanno is coming back, dave smiths comments seem to indicate that, but if he was to get the arse then we need to go after hook or someone with a bit of calibre

i am off the noddy bandwagon now, although i would like him on board

 

[Thresher]

What turned you off Noddy Snowman? Lack of coaching experience?

It's a bit of a gamble giving the job to someone without a coaching track record - and you'd want to give them a 2 or 3 year contract so they have a chance to implement a plan.

I agree with a lot on here that having a former halfback coaching us wouldn't hurt our attacking style, then a Jim Dymock type for our defence.

 

[slide rule]

Get Brian Smith. I bet he'd "stand up" to Gallen...:yawn:

Also, he can't win a premiership and neither can we. It's a match made in heaven. Our double negative would have to equal a positive.

 

[Catapultluch]

Get Brian Smith. I bet he'd "stand up" to Gallen...:yawn:

Also, he can't win a premiership and neither can we. It's a match made in heaven. Our double negative would have to equal a positive.

Oh he'd stand up to Gallen but I bet it wouldn't take too long before he's sat on his a-r-s-e though

 

[Born&bred]

If Brian Smith gets anywhere near our club I will cease giving a **** about our club & NRL forever.