Ideas For The Cronulla Sharks

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this might not be the greatest idea but if they could make it profitable maybe look into putting our theme song up up cronulla onto a cheap cd and sell for 10-20 dollars a cd i dont know if it would be worth it but i would love it on a cd
you could possible sell it at the ground it is very important to know the song its even better when we win.....

Good idea! Why not make it a Sharks compilations CD that could include all of the songs that we've used over the years?

Also, include some other "inspirational" songs too.

It could be titled "Black, White and Blue You"

You could get a band to do a modern cover version of "Up-Up" as well.

In fact, I've often thought that we should get someone to write and perform a song titled "Up Up" - modernised hi energy thing wwith a chant like chorus of "Up, Up, Up, Up Up.."

Bulldogs like to brand themselves as the "Family Club"... we should brand ourselves as the "Up Club" - It ties in nicely with the CSSC's "Lift"

There's something there to work on "Lift Up" ... maybe similar to the chorus in this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uikiBuLfUDg

Perhaps the Sharks could run a song contest... not sure what the prize would be - guaranteed national exposure is nothing to sneeze at though!

I've written and performed a fair bit of music in my time... anyone want to collaborate on a song writing project?

I know this is a cross thread post because we have the Sharks Songs thread running at the moment - I can see that it fits nicely in both though.
 
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I would like to see the club better represented in the media like the on the Footy Show and NRL on fox. I think it is a good way to promote the Sharks to others outside the Shire also giving the fans a chance to see their team. The footy show never seem to say much about the Sharks or have much involvement as they do with the broncos and Bulldogs etc
 

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I received a letter about the tickets in the membership box and they did send a reminder letter a couple of weeks before the last game to remind people who hadn't used their tickets yet. If you didn't receive any letters from the club all year, perhaps they had the wrong address?

definately not. when I went in, they confirmed our address and had it correct.

And it was never communicated to me that I'd need to ring up and book my tickets. I was told that the tickets were being posted out.
 

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definately not. when I went in, they confirmed our address and had it correct

Maybe they didn't process your membership or something? I definitely received at least two letters that said I had to call them.

It really wouldn't surprise - they don't seem to be too organised or careful with the details. Twice this year I have ordered multiple items at the Sharks online store and only received one of the items ordered (but paid for both).
 

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I didn't get my interstate membership pack until I called up to ask them where it was.

That said the stuff I bought from the online store came through quickly all the time.
 

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Good idea! Why not make it a Sharks compilations CD that could include all of the songs that we've used over the years?

Also, include some other "inspirational" songs too.

It could be titled "Black, White and Blue You"

You could get a band to do a modern cover version of "Up-Up" as well.

In fact, I've often thought that we should get someone to write and perform a song titled "Up Up" - modernised hi energy thing wwith a chant like chorus of "Up, Up, Up, Up Up.."

Bulldogs like to brand themselves as the "Family Club"... we should brand ourselves as the "Up Club" - It ties in nicely with the CSSC's "Lift"

There's something there to work on "Lift Up" ... maybe similar to the chorus in this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uikiBuLfUDg

Perhaps the Sharks could run a song contest... not sure what the prize would be - guaranteed national exposure is nothing to sneeze at though!

I've written and performed a fair bit of music in my time... anyone want to collaborate on a song writing project?

I know this is a cross thread post because we have the Sharks Songs thread running at the moment - I can see that it fits nicely in both though.

so that people aren't being ripped off for having to pay 10 bucks for a cd with one old, poorly produced track, the club could put the feelers out for celeb musicians and/or fans who can do their own version of the song.

i for one could rip up a pretty mean metal version of the song which would scare the **** out of the all-blacks.

the cd could be a compilation of different peoples takes on the song and be actually worth 10 bucks
 

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Wasn't sure where this should go, but thought this would do.
Both of these ideas may have been covered before, but they're definetely important to the club. Both have got to do with our image, and improving it. Both are relatively inexpensive. Both are probably already done, but simply not publicised clearly enough.

I think the failure of the Bulldogs to find a front of jersey sponsor for 2009 was a massive blessing in disguise, cos the decision to put a charity like Camp Quality on the strip was a masterstroke. It was noticeable (bright yellow on blue) and a great charity to be associated with- bringing happiness to children with cancer. What could be more positive and admirable?

The Sharks must something similar. I know the club already has some charities that they're linked with, that's good, but we need to publicise it better. Let's not wait until we're not able to find a jersey sponsor to do it- let's find a local, but well-known charity that people admire, and create a formal link. A link that's publicised on the playing gear and the merch, and in particular ON THE WEBSITE! A nice big box/banner. Have the Club donate but also make players available for the charity and encourage fans to donate to this charity by including it in promotional material. Write news stories about players working for them. Invite the paper to cover it.
I know players do a lot of work for charity already, but we need to make it more obvious, and make it clear who we are associated with. Easy, but could be so so positive for the club (and its sponsors).
Anyone got any good ideas what charity would be good?

The second thing is also a communication matter. The club must already have some sort of code of conduct with respect to player behaviour. This should be available on the club website, maybe under the "Team" drop down menu. If the code isn't good enough to be published as it is now, make it good enough. Get a hold of the best ones in sport and copy parts that will work for us. Make ours good enough to be a model for other clubs and the independent commission if it decides to take over the off-field disclipine role. Make it clear and let everyone know what it is- tell the press. Transparency.
Similarly, the club constitution, rules and admin/who to contact etc should be available on the website. The football club board should be published. Why hide this stuff?
 

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Great ideas mate... the most obvious charity that I can think of is The McGrath Foundation

McGrath Foundation
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In an initiative which was driven by the players and coaching staff, the Sharks supported the McGrath Foundation in 2008 to the tune of $500 per try scored in the Telstra Premiership

On Sunday 1st February, 2009 at Glenn McGrath Oval in Caringbah the Sharks were proud to donate $37,000 to the McGrath Foundation.

The Sharks are committed their support to the charity organisation which was founded in 2002. The McGrath Foundation was co-founded by Jane McGrath and her cricketing husband Glenn after Jane’s diagnosis and initial recovery from breast cancer.

While being treated for a secondary cancer in 2003, Jane had access to a breast care nurse for the first time and became aware of the huge impact that they can have on a patient’s physical and mental well being during and after treatment.

To find out more on the McGrath Foundation visit McGrath Foundation


Source: http://www.sharks.com.au/default.aspx?s=charities
I think this would be a really positive association for the Sharks. In particular, because of the negative image that the Sharks gained in 2009 with the Group Sex Scandal, Zappia's "shadow-boxing", etc.,

Another good organisation to support would be something like The Women's Domestic Violence Court Advocacy Service or something similar.

On to your other point...

You're spot on mate, the website is seriously in need of an overhaul. I know there were steps in place towards the end of the season but that seems to have stalled a bit.

Unfortunately, it's very hard to get people at the Club to change their mindset.

On the face of things, the Club has been focused on The Leagues Club and the Rugby League team. It is very hard to modify that way of thinking to the new reality that they are, in fact, in the Media and Entertainment industry.

Regrettably, there are still many people who are sceptical and fearful of new technologies - they think that by publishing information that they are somehow losing control of who uses that information. Much of the reason for that is that there is a baseline of conservatism.

Most progressive businesses are actually opening up the communication channels - particularly online engagement and interactivity.

I would love the Sharks to put more resources into their online community engagement as well as providing (dare I say "pushing") greater amounts of information to the fans, the sponsors and to media organisations.

The simplest form of information provision would be to publish a series of comprehensive bios / CVs for all players and coaching staff in all grades as well as key personnel within the Club as a whole.

For example, you could have a bio on each of the Board Members, The CEO, The Stadium Manager etc., Perhaps each of these could include a sort of vision statement.

Realistically, that is a simple task and probably two week's work.

I guess the answer could lie in the old saying "Where there is a will, there is a way" and it's implied inverse statement of "Where there is no will, there is no way"
 

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Best idea BUZCan think of at the moment is for the Club to dig out the Mercury Report and follow the instructions.

The Club did pay for this advice... Didn't it?

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get old players involved in the club, with both training and mentoring, get some business people to mentor the players about investments and training & work experience during off season to set them up after footy.
from a player perspective if we could other players such mcgaw, miller, barry russell, etc to train the players along with et and ricky our players would get a unique advantage learning from these greats, i think our current players would develop more passion for the club and have less off field dramas meaning bigger crowds and a more successful club
 

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Great ideas mate... the most obvious charity that I can think of is The McGrath Foundation

I think this would be a really positive association for the Sharks. In particular, because of the negative image that the Sharks gained in 2009 with the Group Sex Scandal, Zappia's "shadow-boxing", etc.,

Another good organisation to support would be something like The Women's Domestic Violence Court Advocacy Service or something similar.

Yeah mate, I saw that article and it seems a good fit. The players are clearly very supportive of it, and then of course there's the link to Porter's mum who died this year- not sure if it was breast cancer, but its a significant tie nonetheless. Apart from being a good cause, from a PR perspective its good- recognisable brand that is on the up in terms of media exposure, great logo, great figure to be associated with in pidgeon and his late wife. If they were up for it, make us partners, put the logo on the strip and the training gear, on the website and get our boys turning up and promoting their events. And if Glenn's a sharks man- I know he lives in the shire- invite him to be our No. 1 ticket holder. He'd be a great personality to have associated with the club.

My only issue with doing this is that the McGrath Foundation might have grown too big for us already, given how the NRL have put in place that "Women in League" round where the pennies wore pink and everyone played with those weird pink balls, and we might be priced out of the market by a bigger player so to speak. Aside from the good we will do for the charity, we need to make sure we get maximum benefit from the association.

The McGrath Foundation got me thinking about an another ex-cricketer's chairty- the Steve Waugh Foundation. From their website:

http://www.stevewaughfoundation.com.au/index.php

The purpose of the Steve Waugh Foundation - Australia is expressed in the phrase "Somewhere to Turn". It captures Steve's philosophical reasons for establishing a Foundation and honours his feelings about what he wants to achieve. The Foundation is focussed on making a real difference in the lives of beneficiaries. Steve is determined that the Steve Waugh Foundation - Australia stands alone from large organisations. It is all about being there for people who really have no-where to turn. There are many individuals in Australia who have illness and afflictions that don't meet any set criteria for various reasons and as such are unable to qualify for assistance from the Government or established charitable organisations. There is a void that need to be filled for these people and it is in this area that Steve passionately believes the Foundation can not only make a difference but have a real impact.

Its a relatively young charity too, but one that will most likely grow if Steve Waugh is behind it... we're all familiar with his drive. Another marketable group with a very marketable face. I think Steve's been seen at Sharks games in the past too so either he or his son must be a fan, sign him up and make him No. ticket holder. It would be hard to find a better personality to be associated with the club and the reinforce that tough attitute the boys showed last year.

Just while having a qucik look around, the Cathy Freeman Foudation might be another good fit with the work it does with Indigenous kids. Never know, might mean we get our hands on the next Inglis or Blacklock! Either way, there are plenty of good options out there, and its a great opportunity to get a really well known, positive figure associated with the club as well.

On to your other point...

You're spot on mate, the website is seriously in need of an overhaul. I know there were steps in place towards the end of the season but that seems to have stalled a bit.

Unfortunately, it's very hard to get people at the Club to change their mindset.

On the face of things, the Club has been focused on The Leagues Club and the Rugby League team. It is very hard to modify that way of thinking to the new reality that they are, in fact, in the Media and Entertainment industry.

Regrettably, there are still many people who are sceptical and fearful of new technologies - they think that by publishing information that they are somehow losing control of who uses that information. Much of the reason for that is that there is a baseline of conservatism.

Most progressive businesses are actually opening up the communication channels - particularly online engagement and interactivity.

I would love the Sharks to put more resources into their online community engagement as well as providing (dare I say "pushing") greater amounts of information to the fans, the sponsors and to media organisations.

The simplest form of information provision would be to publish a series of comprehensive bios / CVs for all players and coaching staff in all grades as well as key personnel within the Club as a whole.

For example, you could have a bio on each of the Board Members, The CEO, The Stadium Manager etc., Perhaps each of these could include a sort of vision statement.

Realistically, that is a simple task and probably two week's work.

I guess the answer could lie in the old saying "Where there is a will, there is a way" and it's implied inverse statement of "Where there is no will, there is no way"

Couldn't agree more mate.

The bios for the players remaining after 2009 have been updated and they are just more of the same- three or four lines of dribble. And poorly written dribble- "try's" for instance. Aside from better information, can we at least start with professionally presented information?

These days, the website is the first port of call for someone outside the club who wants basic information or is interested in the club- media, fan, sponsor or whatever, particularly during the offseason, and it has to be a professional, polished piece. We expect our players to be complete professionals now more than ever and they are- blokes like Dougie who treats his body like a temple all week to ensure he's fit to play on the weekend- so the administration must be similarly professional. Check out the difference between our player profile pages and those of the dragons, rabbits or the dogs. And those aren't even all that flash, but they're a long stretch better than ours.

All errors like that take is a basic proofreading job by someone. I know the club is stretched in terms of staff etc and its probably just an oversight/time usage decision which is understandable. The 'news' articles too (which I've been very pleased to see on the increase of late, well done club) usually contain errors, and they're the things that AAP and the papers use to write their pieces. If the staff really can't spare the ten minutes it would take to proof these sorts of things, then I'm sure plenty of people here would be happy to help out, probly with script for the webiste too though I have absolutely no idea personally. Stuff like the bios and articles about the boys going to that white ribbon event are hardly top secret info, I can't see how it would hurt.

I'd love to see transcripts provided of the 'Sharks TV' items (particularly the interviews) for those that don't have access to fast broadband/internet explorer. Another thing a volunteer could do easily.

Its pedantic I know, but small things make a disproportionate difference, generally. Hell, they're the key to winning footy matches after all.
 

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I think they should have a whole bunch of optional extras and try and flog as much crap off as possible while they've got the fan with their wallet in their hand.

Go into the website, select your membership type, for instance Shark Net like myself, then build on it as much or as little as you like. Basically get your membership then pass through the Sharks Store on your way to the check-out tacking on items like jerseys, flags, t-shirts, polos and whatever else. Then all your Sharkies gear for the upcoming season arrives on your doorstep just before or after Chrissy and your set ready for the season to kick off. You get all the merch you would of brought from various sports stores throughout the year and the Club gets the money those other joints would have.

Makes sense.

i wished they had cougar mermaids, for blokes like me

Makes sense.

From your experience, Fancy, has the Club ever looked after 'blokes (players) like you'?
 
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last year i needed to do a school newspaper report on a rugby league player and conduct an interview with that player...now my school in st.george district and i asked the leader for contact with dragons and they said dont bother with dragons and i asked bout sharks and they said the sharks most welcome to...so i went down to the training session and the whole team and even ricky were always first to say hello to me and i was very impressed.
what i mean im proud that sharks let and rival area school conduct interview and have access to the training session to.
cheers to the sharkies

sharks should also try to get their outer city fans to like functions and stuff cause seriously dragons dont do nothing with my school and my school used to be the feeder school for dragons.
 

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Since 2010 is the year of reconnecting with the shire and all that jazz.
The club should develop a voucher to give away at primary schools around the shire, General Admission for one primary school child ( 12 & under ) and one adult for 20 ( cost of GA ticket for an adult) and give away one thousand a week through out schools. If everyone turns up it gives us an extra 2k supporters and 20k in cash and maybe we just create a few more sharkies fans for the future. Should be plenty of room for this considering our avg crowd figures
 

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Best idea BUZCan think of at the moment is for the Club to dig out the Mercury Report and follow the instructions.

The Club did pay for this advice... Didn't it?

:confused:

$30K from memory
 

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Since 2010 is the year of reconnecting with the shire and all that jazz.
The club should develop a voucher to give away at primary schools around the shire, General Admission for one primary school child ( 12 & under ) and one adult for 20 ( cost of GA ticket for an adult) and give away one thousand a week through out schools. If everyone turns up it gives us an extra 2k supporters and 20k in cash and maybe we just create a few more sharkies fans for the future. Should be plenty of room for this considering our avg crowd figures

That's a great idea.

And I remember when I played junior rugby league I could get in for $3. Does that still happen? If so we should allow rival clubs juniors to watch the sharks very cheaply.
 

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First off this isn't my idea but a mate of mine has come up with this idea and I'm just spreading the word.
Full credit goes to Bunnyman07. It's a great idea and I'm behind it.

In our quest to be the first club to reach 10,000 ticketed members, I am calling on the generosity of all Souths fans who have the ability and the resources to help those Souths Fans that are less fortunate.

There are plenty of disadvantaged kids out there who absolutely worship Souths and would love to get to the games, but through tough life circumstances, genuinely cannot afford it.

I would like to call on all Souths fans who have been financially blessed in this life to buy some of these kids a Reggies Pack Junior Ticketed Membership. I know we don't know who they are, but there will be plenty of people on this forum who know of children whose parents simply cannot afford the $50 for the season pass. Souths Cares have also identified a lot of disadvantaged children, and I am looking to work with the membership department and Souths Cares to get this programme up and running on a permanent basis.

I am personally going to put my money where my mouth is and I urge you all to join me and do the same to sponsor a child (or numerous children)with a Reggies Pack Junior Ticketed Membership for Season 2010. Hopefully it is the start of something big.

I am calling on all members of this forum who have the ability and desire to help the club and to help less fortunate children to bring a smile to their faces.

Join me in helping to achieve two great causes: The cause of the Mighty Rabbitohs in reaching 10,000 ticketed members, and the cause of bringing joy to children who have few occasions to be joyful.

I thank you in advance for your generous support. I promise that participating in this initiative will bring joy to the hearts and lives of many children disadvantaged through life circumstances. You will also feel great too, knowing that you have helped Souths and some kids as well.

http://www.rabbitohs.com/warren/showthread.php?t=7313


Maybe the sharks could do something like this, my only question is how would you chaperone the youngsters?
 
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