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IronShark

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You really love giving it to supporters for not showing up don't you. I agree to an extent. Bit of drizzle I believe most people should be able to withstand.

However my Mrs who was 9 months pregnant (had the baby this morning) and myself left to go to the club just before half time to watch the rest to you must be considered fair weathered?

I can't blame anyone for not wanting their families to be in that

Sorry mate, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not having a go at people who didn't turn up, hell even I hard second thoughts about it! Hence the "pun intended" gag...

What I was saying was that those who are crazy enough to turn up in that are the nutter who will make some noise.

Sharks fans are notorious for being "fair weather" supporters. Many don't turn up when we aren't winning and those who do, don't make much noise.

After the first game that we lost, the next three games were absolutely terrible for atmospher. Even The Cage was embarrassingly quiet during the Titans game - and we were winning that up to the end!

Wade Graham said himself in the last press conference that he could hear the crowd get loud in the second half when the boys made some big hits. The crowd noise energises and lifts the team, this is a well known psychological effect.

We need to have a look at what our culture is at the Sharks. Do we want to be "loud and proud" or are we "too cool for school", which is how many seem to see themselves. The Seatlle Seahawks are renowned for becoming the loudest crowd in the NFL and, not coincidentally, one of the hardest teams to beat at home.

One of the main reasons I go to watch the game live is to feel and be part of the crowd. It's a very communal and, some would say, tribal experience.
 

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Sorry mate, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not having a go at people who didn't turn up, hell even I hard second thoughts about it! Hence the "pun intended" gag...

What I was saying was that those who are crazy enough to turn up in that are the nutter who will make some noise.

Sharks fans are notorious for being "fair weather" supporters. Many don't turn up when we aren't winning and those who do, don't make much noise.

After the first game that we lost, the next three games were absolutely terrible for atmospher. Even The Cage was embarrassingly quiet during the Titans game - and we were winning that up to the end!

Wade Graham said himself in the last press conference that he could hear the crowd get loud in the second half when the boys made some big hits. The crowd noise energises and lifts the team, this is a well known psychological effect.

We need to have a look at what our culture is at the Sharks. Do we want to be "loud and proud" or are we "too cool for school", which is how many seem to see themselves. The Seatlle Seahawks are renowned for becoming the loudest crowd in the NFL and, not coincidentally, one of the hardest teams to beat at home.

One of the main reasons I go to watch the game live is to feel and be part of the crowd. It's a very communal and, some would say, tribal experience.

No that's fine. I cant argue with much of that. I've called our supporters fair weathered myself for not going. Monday night however was different. Crazy different ha

I felt **** for leaving the game early, would lived to have stayed but the rain was just too much for the mrs. Just couldn't afford her to get sick, and rightly so because 5 hours after we got home she went into labour lol
 

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Sharks fans are notorious for being "fair weather" supporters. Many don't turn up when we aren't winning and those who do, don't make much noise.

Different code, but the crowd for Carlton v Essendon last weekend was 55,000. Usually it's 80,000. So that's a 30% drop because Carlton are crap and it was their home game. And Melbournians are meant to be more fanatical than Sydney people.

My point is all teams experiance a drop in crowd numbers when they're not travelling well. I don't believe our fans are any better or worse than others in that regard.
 

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Different code, but the crowd for Carlton v Essendon last weekend was 55,000. Usually it's 80,000. So that's a 30% drop because Carlton are crap and it was their home game. And Melbournians are meant to be more fanatical than Sydney people.

My point is all teams experiance a drop in crowd numbers when they're not travelling well. I don't believe our fans are any better or worse than others in that regard.

It's not necessarily the numbers I was referring to, it's the level of crowd involvement. Too many people seem to think they are "too cool" to get involved and make some noise. This is what we need to get rid of.

Shark Park used to be a graveyard for teams to play at. The crowd was loud and hostile and would pressure the ref's all night. As a result, we had a formidable win record at home. In recent times, the atmosphere has been terrible and, unsurprisingly, we lost ten games in a row at home.

Of course that's not the only reason but it's no coincidence that teams like the Broncos, Warriors, Storm and Cowboys are always tough to beat at home, no matter where they are travelling in the comp. Their home crowds are loud and parochial.
 

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It's not necessarily the numbers I was referring to, it's the level of crowd involvement. Too many people seem to think they are "too cool" to get involved and make some noise. This is what we need to get rid of.

Shark Park used to be a graveyard for teams to play at. The crowd was loud and hostile and would pressure the ref's all night. As a result, we had a formidable win record at home. In recent times, the atmosphere has been terrible and, unsurprisingly, we lost ten games in a row at home.

Of course that's not the only reason but it's no coincidence that teams like the Broncos, Warriors, Storm and Cowboys are always tough to beat at home, no matter where they are travelling in the comp. Their home crowds are loud and parochial.

I've never been to these grounds so can't comment on them. As far as Sydney teams are concerned though I think there are plenty of fans who don't necessarily make a lot of noise.

One thing I will say, and it may just be where I sit (PB stand), there are always quite a few people who are talking about anything other than footy and this is while the game is on, not really paying attention. They pay their money so I guess they can do whatever they want but I don't understand why they come to a game in the first place. It's not like going to a Sharks game is cool, not like in the 90's when we started playing Saturday nights.
 

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If being "too cool" for the 'I'm a shark, cause I've got heart' chant is wrong, I never want to be right. Just as the Sharks are notorious for being "fair weather fans" (need to see the stats for a bold claim like that), I'd also posit that sharks fans are notorious for being self righteous ****s like yourself.
 

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If being "too cool" for the 'I'm a shark, cause I've got heart' chant is wrong, I never want to be right. Just as the Sharks are notorious for being "fair weather fans" (need to see the stats for a bold claim like that), I'd also posit that sharks fans are notorious for being self righteous ****s like yourself.

Huh?
 

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Not you HB, just shaking my head at how Ironshark puts **** on anyone that doesn't match his superfriend standard of support
 

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If being "too cool" for the 'I'm a shark, cause I've got heart' chant is wrong, I never want to be right. Just as the Sharks are notorious for being "fair weather fans" (need to see the stats for a bold claim like that), I'd also posit that sharks fans are notorious for being self righteous ****s like yourself.

Yep
 

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I like you IronShark and have met you a few times and shared beers, but you seem to harp on about people bagging flanno, but seem to love bagging our most of the fans for not showing up to watch his style of football (although we've played pretty well the last few weeks).

I just don't get it.
 

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I actually agree in part with what iron is saying, our fans are far to quiet, even when we have 15k people there, there are great lengths of time where it's just so quiet. Imo I reckon we have one of the quietest fan bases in the comp
 

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Yeah but that's just how it is.

If you knew how to make people cheer you'd be getting paid millions by franchises around the world.

It's not as simple as making up a chant. It's embedded in the fans or something. And it's not as bad as all that. I couldn't care less if we have 15k people and are one of the quieter clubs. If we are scoring and winning there will be cheers
 

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Yeah but that's just how it is.

If you knew how to make people cheer you'd be getting paid millions by franchises around the world.

It's not as simple as making up a chant. It's embedded in the fans or something. And it's not as bad as all that. I couldn't care less if we have 15k people and are one of the quieter clubs. If we are scoring and winning there will be cheers

Cheep beer would do the trick.
 

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Not sure why people are bringing up the chants for, unless I missed something I didn't see iron say anything about the stupid sharks chant, from his posts I gathered he was talking about the noise level in general, I don't always agree with iron and he has gone over the top before but imo he is spot on with his comments today.

Hasn't anyone else noticed how quiet our crowd goes after kick off, there is a little cheer then dead silence, you can dead set hear a bloke farting from across the other side of the crowd lol

To me it feels like it takes sharks fans more to get into games then it does for other teams fan bases
 

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I actually agree in part with what iron is saying, our fans are far to quiet, even when we have 15k people there, there are great lengths of time where it's just so quiet. Imo I reckon we have one of the quietest fan bases in the comp

We are definitely too quiet.The only time we make noise is on a Saturday night when everyone (well, a great many) are half pissed. Our little group are noisy but quite often get quizzical looks from the quiet ones around us. I don't see a point in going to the footy if you don't want to hear the cheering.May as well stay at home and watch it on the box.
 

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We are definitely too quiet.The only time we make noise is on a Saturday night when everyone (well, a great many) are half pissed. Our little group are noisy but quite often get quizzical looks from the quiet ones around us. I don't see a point in going to the footy if you don't want to hear the cheering.May as well stay at home and watch it on the box.
yep, and you would know from going to parra stadium how noisy those bogans are, they leave us for dead
 
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I can tell the people in the row in front of us hate it when we're vocal at the game, got a few filthy looks off them. Watch it at home if you expect peace and quiet.
 
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