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bort said:
I haven’t watched the video but it feels like he should have realised it was a guy sooner based on this info
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Haha, i didn’t even realise. When you wrote that I think “yeah, and wouldn’t he see the beard too” then I remember he was on the receiving end
 
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Haha, i didn’t even realise. When you wrote that I think “yeah, and wouldn’t he see the beard too” then I remember he was on the receiving end
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I think either end could be considered “the receiving end”.
 
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Dale Finucane - 2023
A few interesting notes on Dale:
  • He only averaged 5 more minutes Ball in Play than Toby, 8 more minutes than BHU and 9 more than Kaufusi.
  • His worst game for attacking involvement was the one game he started at prop
  • His game in round 5 against the Warriors was the one of the best all around performances from any forward in 2023 in terms of involvement. It was the only game all season in which a player:
    • scored 290+ in defence, and
    • scored 290+ in attack, and
    • played more than half a game
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My main criticism of Dale is definitely just that we don't see enough of him - injuries and suspensions have cruelled his impact for us.

I also think, in hindsight, maybe McInness/Williams could have done the job and spent the money on a bigger body, but likely not looking at the same off-field & leadership impact (that we assume Dale has).

Hoping we get good value and game number out of him for his next two seasons. The above workloads look good, but we need them for 20+ games a year from him - it's now been four seasons since he has played 20 games, with last years 13 (of possible 25) being a new low.
Even his first year of NRL he played 14 and he only debuted in round 13!
 
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bort said:
My main criticism of Dale is definitely just that we don't see enough of him - injuries and suspensions have cruelled his impact for us.
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Agreed. To be fair, both his suspensions were complete horse ****. The hip drop he got three weeks for, the NRL pretty much came out later in the year and said that in examples like this that they got in wrong, and they have changed the criteria.

That the tackle on Lawrie was even a penalty was laughable. Should have fought that one. Sharks taking the plea was a poor call imo.

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I also think, in hindsight, maybe McInnes/Williams could have done the job and spent the money on a bigger body,
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Possibly, but injury to Jack has also been a factor.

Imo what we need as all three of these players fit and healthy. It almost never happens.

I think over the last two years the amount of games where these three all started and finished a game healthy and weren't playing low minutes after a comeback or playing a wacky position to cover injuries is less than 10. Could be as low as 5 or 6.

bort said:
but likely not looking at the same off-field & leadership impact (that we assume Dale has).
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I don't think an assumption is necessary. Enough people close to the team have spoken about the role of the older veteran players - specifically Dale, and in general - that we know this is fact.

bort said:
Hoping we get good value and game number out of him for his next two seasons. The above workloads look good, but we need them for 20+ games a year from him - it's now been four seasons since he has played 20 games, with last years 13 (of possible 25) being a new low.
Even his first year of NRL he played 14 and he only debuted in round 13!
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Yeah agreed. Take out the dodgy suspensions and he is almost there.
 
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It's not just about Dale being available - he also needs to be better. Too much meh from him (which is ok if he makes 100% of his tackles but he doesn't)

Having an extended run of fitness/not being suspended hopefully helps him find the form we need and expect from him and frankly are paying for
 
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Gards said:
It's not just about Dale being available - he also needs to be better. Too much meh from him (which is ok if he makes 100% of his tackles but he doesn't)

Having an extended run of fitness/not being suspended hopefully helps him find the form we need and expect from him and frankly are paying for
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I still remember the period when he was the rock the rest of the forwards clung to defensively. Everyone was better when he was on the field. By a lot.
 
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