Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks v NZ Warriors at Netstrata Jubilee Stadium, Sunday September 13 at 6.30pm

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Refs were trash - both ways. Nothing was consistent and they missed plenty of glaring ones. Some of the calls were just downright weird. We got lucky a few times imo


but ref never influences a game or change the momentum of a game
???? thats what I've been bought up to understand:lmao
 

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well we got the two points

we seem to give away too may set restarts. not good. but happy to seal the 8
just don't know if we can have a miracle run.

We can't. Be happy with 8th, proud you're not Paul C & kind to your mum.
 

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You never know what could happen.

Get a bit of a roll on. The good teams get a couple of injuries and the speed wobbles.

Compete for everything.
 
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Ramien's no try??

RTS hits the ball out of Katoa's hands. So if RTS was the one that hits/ rakes/ dislodges the ball, why isn't it play on?
Katoa doesn't actually Lose the ball, it's effectively striped. Shouldn't it be Play on, try Ramien??
 

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You never know what could happen.

Get a bit of a roll on. The good teams get a couple of injuries and the speed wobbles.

Compete for everything.

And don't do DUMB things .
We really do make it so much harder for ourselves .
 

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the drag in goal of nickorima ???. kodi doesn't completely go to ground. his elbow never touched the ground to complete tackle. duges comes in and roll over
thought duges has every right to grab and he simply pulls him over to complete tackle.

seen it other games this year - same thing and ground in goal = drop out

I must be wrong tho

Agreed, I was fine with that tackle, if teams were reversed I wouldn't argue a call of tackled in goal

but ref never influences a game or change the momentum of a game
???? thats what I've been bought up to understand:lmao

We hate on our own players for errors, celebrate the opponents errors, whats the big deal to mention ref errors?

Obviously if that is 100% of why someone thinks we lost every week it is completely incorrect and they should be called out on it.

I'm also happy to acknowledge errors in our favour from the ref.
 

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Agreed, I was fine with that tackle, if teams were reversed I wouldn't argue a call of tackled in goal



We hate on our own players for errors, celebrate the opponents errors, whats the big deal to mention ref errors?

Obviously if that is 100% of why someone thinks we lost every week it is completely incorrect and they should be called out on it.

I'm also happy to acknowledge errors in our favour from the ref.

I’m fine with the call itself. I don’t really think you should be able to do it because in my mind the tackle is completed once the player is on the ground and the lift is a second effort.

But I’ve seen heaps of teams be allowed to do it over the last couple of years on the basis that it’s done in one movement or something. During the game I questioned whether the ball carrier completely left the ground which (I think) means the tackle is completed. But still probably not a penalty, just held in the field of play- if he was lifted in the field of play and not in goal. If it’s in goal I don’t know what the rule is. Probably a penalty I guess.

I never ended up seeing a good replay.

I think it is an issue that we weren’t allowed to review based on the call that play hadn’t stopped. It was a penalty- how much more stopped can you get?
 

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Apparently they they wanted to kick for touch so it wasn’t a break in play?

If we touch the player in that position but fall off it’d be play on so if we grab and drive in goal it should be treated the same. Different if ball carrying arm is on the ground, although you do see players touched but not held in that case allowed to play on also.
 

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Apparently they they wanted to kick for touch so it wasn’t a break in play?

If we touch the player in that position but fall off it’d be play on so if we grab and drive in goal it should be treated the same. Different if ball carrying arm is on the ground, although you do see players touched but not held in that case allowed to play on also.

A kick for touch would happen for the vast majority of penalties blown lol.

So if we get a dodgy call should we scream “kick for touch” as soon as it’s blown so our intention is known and it can’t be challenged? Bizarre. Surely it’s not that in real life and the ref just got his words confused.
 
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Agreed, I was fine with that tackle, if teams were reversed I wouldn't argue a call of tackled in goal



We hate on our own players for errors, celebrate the opponents errors, whats the big deal to mention ref errors?

Obviously if that is 100% of why someone thinks we lost every week it is completely incorrect and they should be called out on it.

I'm also happy to acknowledge errors in our favour from the ref.

On here its not acknowledging ref errors. Its blaming the ref for our defeats.

Not often you see anyone mention the errors in our favour.....
 

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On here its not acknowledging ref errors. Its blaming the ref for our defeats.

Not often you see anyone mention the errors in our favour.....

Don't think many are actively blaming ref for defeats, I will call out a ball call (against us) but I know 99% of the time we lose it is either our fault or other team too good (or both). The 1% is botched ref calls that cost you a match winner.
I often think things like 'we were lucky to get that one' but don't bother typing it.
Don't often see us credit the other teams players for good efforts either, but just because it isn't typed doesn't mean we don't see opponents play well.

It's one thing where it goes both ways or whatever too but sometimes you see a string of bad calls or 50/50s go against ya - like the ingoal penalty, back chat marching then Williams strip. Only one of them is correct and it comes from frustration at the first one being wrong (and also mistreated by ref saying it wasn't a break in play).
Our team aren't good enough to cope with runs against us like that often so even when it's our fault we lose those runs against you are still a pain in the arse as we needed good luck to go our way to have a chance, not bad luck. Still, playing better will overcome them most of the time, but people also get annoyed we don't play better.
 

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Looking at the murchie try, that should have been disallowed. Murchie runs through as a decoy and runs into Wilton, Wilton still gets a grab on RTS but is definitely impeded by murchie.

if anyone wants to go back and have a look, what do you think?
 
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Can someone tell me what the Dugan penalty was for in the second half? The one where Cecchin said he went down town. I think even the commentators were puzzled, they only replayed it once though but it didn't look like Dugan was anywhere near offside. Can someone explain it to me?
 

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Can someone tell me what the Dugan penalty was for in the second half? The one where Cecchin said he went down town. I think even the commentators were puzzled, they only replayed it once though but it didn't look like Dugan was anywhere near offside. Can someone explain it to me?
Do you know the time stamp?
 

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Can someone tell me what the Dugan penalty was for in the second half? The one where Cecchin said he went down town. I think even the commentators were puzzled, they only replayed it once though but it didn't look like Dugan was anywhere near offside. Can someone explain it to me?

Im with you , bazaar call
 
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