HaroldBishop
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They're all good on their day but our problem is consistency with the middles. Not sure how to improve that.
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Time (& all the hard work we don't see).
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Fitness will definitely contribute to consistency too.
HaroldBishop
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If I can't see it from behind my keyboard, it doesn't happen.
Tiger Shark
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We’ve also rarely had all our best middles on the park together. They seemed to cop the majority of the injuries this year
Yep looking at final going ‘right dales been out a bit but that’s bit too bad, McInnes been playing well’
Next minute BHU joins him
Vichyssoise
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Gards
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The main reason our defense improved is because Fitz let it get into such diabolical shape in the first place the only way was up
A couple personnel changes and an injury to Teig and bam our defense is better.
If it was actually down to Fitz mythical defensive coaching prowess wtf was he doing with the squad the 12 months prior?
We would still be in the finals this week if he had taken action earlier as we likely would have finished top 4 and had more settled combinations by then.
Lets not forget that our first 3 months or so under Fitz in 2022 our defense was actually pretty solid IIRC so it isn't like you can say it was all hangover from the JMO days as it actually improved initially with Fitz at the helm (Dale was playing well though back then + we had tacklebot Tolman) but then he let it slide into terrible shape before finally taking some action to address it.
Trying to sort it out at training wasn't enough
Bellamy wouldn't have copped that **** for more than a week but now it seems like Cronulla are a team that can defend 'sometimes' 'when they feel like it'
Player attitude has stunk for best part of 5 years now (with some exceptions)
Having said all that the bloke is young for a FG coach and needs time to iron things out as opposed to building a team like say Flanno had to.
Many a fan wanted Flanno gone at various times leading right up until halftime in the final against the Raiders in 2016. Seems he could always coach just needed the right mix of players to execute his style.
Fitz already has his players so now he needs to be working on himself improving his coaching and his teams attitude. The younger players will develop naturally regardless. To Fitz credit we have some blokes playing great footy under him, career best even. Williams, Kennedy, Katoa. McInnes is firing.
Injuries make it hard, especially in a big finals game. No Dale, BHU or Kennedy hurt.
Did anyone really expect a premiership within 2 years? No.
Did we want to see clear and vast improvement in 2 years? Yes. Have we got that? kinda yea also kinda not really. We looked world beaters for a couple months at the start of 2022 but it's been inconsistent since then.
It's not a linear transparent curve though, it will be bumpy until (if he does take us to success) all of a sudden it all clicks and we have a great season backed up by a good finals campaign.
Happened with Ivan, happened with Flanno, happened with Green
I'm not Fitz biggest fan but I'm content with letting his tenure play out and see what comes of it, too early to consider an alternative
A couple personnel changes and an injury to Teig and bam our defense is better.
If it was actually down to Fitz mythical defensive coaching prowess wtf was he doing with the squad the 12 months prior?
We would still be in the finals this week if he had taken action earlier as we likely would have finished top 4 and had more settled combinations by then.
Lets not forget that our first 3 months or so under Fitz in 2022 our defense was actually pretty solid IIRC so it isn't like you can say it was all hangover from the JMO days as it actually improved initially with Fitz at the helm (Dale was playing well though back then + we had tacklebot Tolman) but then he let it slide into terrible shape before finally taking some action to address it.
Trying to sort it out at training wasn't enough
Bellamy wouldn't have copped that **** for more than a week but now it seems like Cronulla are a team that can defend 'sometimes' 'when they feel like it'
Player attitude has stunk for best part of 5 years now (with some exceptions)
Having said all that the bloke is young for a FG coach and needs time to iron things out as opposed to building a team like say Flanno had to.
Many a fan wanted Flanno gone at various times leading right up until halftime in the final against the Raiders in 2016. Seems he could always coach just needed the right mix of players to execute his style.
Fitz already has his players so now he needs to be working on himself improving his coaching and his teams attitude. The younger players will develop naturally regardless. To Fitz credit we have some blokes playing great footy under him, career best even. Williams, Kennedy, Katoa. McInnes is firing.
Injuries make it hard, especially in a big finals game. No Dale, BHU or Kennedy hurt.
Did anyone really expect a premiership within 2 years? No.
Did we want to see clear and vast improvement in 2 years? Yes. Have we got that? kinda yea also kinda not really. We looked world beaters for a couple months at the start of 2022 but it's been inconsistent since then.
It's not a linear transparent curve though, it will be bumpy until (if he does take us to success) all of a sudden it all clicks and we have a great season backed up by a good finals campaign.
Happened with Ivan, happened with Flanno, happened with Green
I'm not Fitz biggest fan but I'm content with letting his tenure play out and see what comes of it, too early to consider an alternative
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Vichyssoise
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Organize a raffle?
Sir Chadley
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I think our defence improved simply by not having Moylan there. The players around him did not trust him to do his job so always felt they had to jam in or help him out in some way and in doing so, left their own players unmarked.
Once he was out of the equation, trust returned.
Once he was out of the equation, trust returned.
Hopefully you’re right otherwise I hope Wilton has been looking at ways he needs to improve.
HaroldBishop
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Yeah I think a combination of no Moylan and Wade returning for sure.
I agree with whoever said our defence got to a pretty decent place, and that it's the constant errors and penalties making it look bad.
There's a reason our defence looked better yet we were still conceding points.
That said, the left edge definitely still needs work.
There's a reason our defence looked better yet we were still conceding points.
That said, the left edge definitely still needs work.
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did it improve though? both tries scored on the left (one was very lucky)
left side made 61/83 tackles missing 22
right side made 93/101 missing 8
left side made 61/83 tackles missing 22
right side made 93/101 missing 8
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Very little came through that edge after the Manly game ?
Missing tackles is important but much more important is conceding no points
That side definitely improved in this area to say otherwise is a lie
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First try was scored when Tommy was down an ab or two and clearly struggling to even get back in the line. Second try had plenty of luck about it.
Wade and Trindall did miss plenty of tackles between them, so that's probably the difference.
You had of told me before the game we'd only concede 2 tries, I'd take it 105 times out of 100.
Western Sharkie
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Ordinarily we cover 2 tries no problem