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I think our defence improved simply by not having Moylan there. The players around him did not trust him to do his job so always felt they had to jam in or help him out in some way and in doing so, left their own players unmarked.

Once he was out of the equation, trust returned.
 

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I think our defence improved simply by not having Moylan there. The players around him did not trust him to do his job so always felt they had to jam in or help him out in some way and in doing so, left their own players unmarked.

Once he was out of the equation, trust returned.
Hopefully you’re right otherwise I hope Wilton has been looking at ways he needs to improve.
 

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I agree with whoever said our defence got to a pretty decent place, and that it's the constant errors and penalties making it look bad.

There's a reason our defence looked better yet we were still conceding points.

That said, the left edge definitely still needs work.
 

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did it improve though? both tries scored on the left (one was very lucky)

left side made 61/83 tackles missing 22

right side made 93/101 missing 8
 

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did it improve though? both tries scored on the left (one was very lucky)

left side made 61/83 tackles missing 22

right side made 93/101 missing 8
Very little came through that edge after the Manly game ?

Missing tackles is important but much more important is conceding no points

That side definitely improved in this area to say otherwise is a lie
 

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I agree with whoever said our defence got to a pretty decent place, and that it's the constant errors and penalties making it look bad.

There's a reason our defence looked better yet we were still conceding points.

That said, the left edge definitely still needs work.
LOVE Him but Talakai still a concern
 

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did it improve though? both tries scored on the left (one was very lucky)

left side made 61/83 tackles missing 22

right side made 93/101 missing 8
First try was scored when Tommy was down an ab or two and clearly struggling to even get back in the line. Second try had plenty of luck about it.

Wade and Trindall did miss plenty of tackles between them, so that's probably the difference.

You had of told me before the game we'd only concede 2 tries, I'd take it 105 times out of 100.
 
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First try was scored when Tommy was down an ab or two and clearly struggling to even get back in the line. Second try had plenty of luck about it.

Wade and Trindall did miss plenty of tackles between them, so that's probably the difference.

You had of told me before the game we'd only concede 2 tries, I'd take it 105 times out of 100.

Ordinarily we cover 2 tries no problem
 

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Remove the no d!ckhead policy for next year, get 1 or 2 offseason signings and turn some of our forwards into killers and see how we go
 

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Just a question to the masses .
If right now there was an opportunity for a straight swap on offer Fitz for Flanno , do you take it ?

I do like Flanno's style ( from other forum )

The Red V Podcast

https://www.facebook.com/#
Some good remarks from Shane Flanagan in an interview with Dave Riccio of the DT.
- Dragons are looking at 4-5 players for next season and also chatting with 4-5 players of high end talent
- The club are aiming to bring in their own recruitment manager
- Flanno wants the dragons to be the best sports brand in Australia
- Says he’s knows what he’ll get out of his son Kyle, and believes him to be one of the best trainers at the club
- Says that when the side returns for pre season training they will face a new gym, new faces and a new beginning
- Flanagan: “we will be super fit, fast and powerful” + “we’re going to be ruthless, tough and hard to beat. If we have to win by two points, so be it. Then once we add some high level skill, we will still have our tough DNA with a sprinkling of X factor”
- On Tyrell Sloan: “I’ve spoken to Tyrell, my coaching style, my personality will help him where he needs to be” + “I’m going to invest a lot of my own time in Tyrell and on Wednesday’s he’ll do wrestling or boxing. We are going to expose him to some tough training”
- The dressing room and training will be open to former players. Wants his squad to know what it means to be a dragon and the history that comes with that.
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Just a question to the masses .
If right now there was an opportunity for a straight swap on offer Fitz for Flanno , do you take it ?

I do like Flanno's style ( from other forum )

The Red V Podcast

https://www.facebook.com/#
Some good remarks from Shane Flanagan in an interview with Dave Riccio of the DT.
- Dragons are looking at 4-5 players for next season and also chatting with 4-5 players of high end talent
- The club are aiming to bring in their own recruitment manager
- Flanno wants the dragons to be the best sports brand in Australia
- Says he’s knows what he’ll get out of his son Kyle, and believes him to be one of the best trainers at the club
- Says that when the side returns for pre season training they will face a new gym, new faces and a new beginning
- Flanagan: “we will be super fit, fast and powerful” + “we’re going to be ruthless, tough and hard to beat. If we have to win by two points, so be it. Then once we add some high level skill, we will still have our tough DNA with a sprinkling of X factor”
- On Tyrell Sloan: “I’ve spoken to Tyrell, my coaching style, my personality will help him where he needs to be” + “I’m going to invest a lot of my own time in Tyrell and on Wednesday’s he’ll do wrestling or boxing. We are going to expose him to some tough training”
- The dressing room and training will be open to former players. Wants his squad to know what it means to be a dragon and the history that comes with that.
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wouldnt want him back.
there is a reason why he hasnt a head coach for a while..

our team is young. It takes time to get experience. our 2016 squad had a lot of game experience on park, with a few young players in mix
 

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Just a question to the masses .
If right now there was an opportunity for a straight swap on offer Fitz for Flanno , do you take it ?

I do like Flanno's style ( from other forum )

The Red V Podcast

https://www.facebook.com/#
Some good remarks from Shane Flanagan in an interview with Dave Riccio of the DT.
- Dragons are looking at 4-5 players for next season and also chatting with 4-5 players of high end talent
- The club are aiming to bring in their own recruitment manager
- Flanno wants the dragons to be the best sports brand in Australia
- Says he’s knows what he’ll get out of his son Kyle, and believes him to be one of the best trainers at the club
- Says that when the side returns for pre season training they will face a new gym, new faces and a new beginning
- Flanagan: “we will be super fit, fast and powerful” + “we’re going to be ruthless, tough and hard to beat. If we have to win by two points, so be it. Then once we add some high level skill, we will still have our tough DNA with a sprinkling of X factor”
- On Tyrell Sloan: “I’ve spoken to Tyrell, my coaching style, my personality will help him where he needs to be” + “I’m going to invest a lot of my own time in Tyrell and on Wednesday’s he’ll do wrestling or boxing. We are going to expose him to some tough training”
- The dressing room and training will be open to former players. Wants his squad to know what it means to be a dragon and the history that comes with that.
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I’ve been pretty vocal about how much I rate Flanagan.. he’s a deadset legend in my eyes and dragons are very lucky they have him

To answer your question. Yes. In a heartbeat.

If your a player and Flanagans team approaches you to join them, it would be hard to turn down - he’s shown to get some of the games biggest players in the best form of their lives and still till this day follow him
 
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I’ve been pretty vocal about how much I rate Flanagan.. he’s a deadset legend in my eyes and dragons are very lucky they have him

To answer your question. Yes. In a heartbeat.

If your a player and Flanagans team approaches you to join them, it would be hard to turn down - he’s shown to get some of the games biggest players in the best form of their lives and still till this day follow him
I actually think some of our players (Nicho for 1) would gain some benefit from being coached by Flanno

I think we lack some old style grunt across our players as a whole and Flanno would instill that

Fitz has that reputation but it hasn’t come out, so he either hides it very well or he is treading softly being a rookie coach

Hope Fitz really lifts the tempo and we become more hard edged.
 

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I actually think some of our players (Nicho for 1) would gain some benefit from being coached by Flanno

I think we lack some old style grunt across our players as a whole and Flanno would instill that

Fitz has that reputation but it hasn’t come out, so he either hides it very well or he is treading softly being a rookie coach

Hope Fitz really lifts the tempo and we become more hard edged.
I don’t think he has it..

Can always tell what type of coach you have by how they talk and what they say when they are amongst media let alone by seeing if their players are willing to run through walls for them and leave everything out on the field, don’t get that vibe at all from our boys

Fitzy comes across abit flat to me

Would love to be dead wrong
 
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The obvious answer is yes, you would definitely swap them.

But it’s not a level playing field. You’re talking about a rookie coach with two year’s experience up against a Premiership winner with 8 years of coaching experience up until 2018.

To me, the swap question would be much harder to answer if you only went on Flanno’s first two years. He had crap players, probably worse than what we have now but he then used the next 5 years to gather his team together and put together a premiership winning side.

Fitz hasn’t had that opportunity as yet. Answer this honestly, did anyone think Flanno was a good coach in his first two years? Plenty on here didn’t think so. (Hi Teflon!)

I will admit I thought Fitz would have more success at this stage and I am disappointed in how we’ve fared over the last two seasons. But I’m still happy to give him time, can’t say for certain that he won’t win a premiership just yet.
 
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