Official Braydon Trindall

[bort]

Because, assuming we lose the next two games, there isn't really much to play for this season.

There obviously is at the start of next year.

All the available evidence suggests we aren't even fussed about having Trindall next year though.
If we wanted him for next year, or we know he is our only option for next year, then different story.

At this stage for all we know Metcalf (signed), Rivett (signed), Tracey (re-signing currently), Johnson and Moylan are all equal if not better chance of being in our halves next year as Trindall.
Additionally a dozen other halves with NRL experience may be rated above Trindall by our club/Fitz - players like Reynolds, Drinkwater, Taylor, Mann, Hynes, May, Norman, Croker, Hutchinson, Lewis, Milford, O'Sullivan, Salmon, W Smith, Walters, Watson, Boyd, Crossland, Dargan, Hawkins, Jacks, Johns, Rankin,

Now yes, a lot of them aren't 7s so the narrative does change a bit once we are confirmed missing on Reynolds. Realistically at this stage the odds of our 2022 starting halves including Trindall is actually pretty slim. Certainly slim enough I don't think we make this season harder on ourselves just in case at this stage. As the odds of him starting for us rise, so will my interest in him playing.

 

[BurgoShark]

How old is Rivett mate?

Born in 2002.

 

[Sir Chadley]

Born in 2002.

So certainly old enough to play NRL. But you'd say he is behind someone like Walker and Rhys Walsh?

 

[Sparkles]

All the available evidence suggests we aren't even fussed about having Trindall next year though.
If we wanted him for next year, or we know he is our only option for next year, then different story.

At this stage for all we know Metcalf (signed), Rivett (signed), Tracey (re-signing currently), Johnson and Moylan are all equal if not better chance of being in our halves next year as Trindall.
Additionally a dozen other halves with NRL experience may be rated above Trindall by our club/Fitz - players like Reynolds, Drinkwater, Taylor, Mann, Hynes, May, Norman, Croker, Hutchinson, Lewis, Milford, O'Sullivan, Salmon, W Smith, Walters, Watson, Boyd, Crossland, Dargan, Hawkins, Jacks, Johns, Rankin,

Now yes, a lot of them aren't 7s so the narrative does change a bit once we are confirmed missing on Reynolds. Realistically at this stage the odds of our 2022 starting halves including Trindall is actually pretty slim. Certainly slim enough I don't think we make this season harder on ourselves just in case at this stage. As the odds of him starting for us rise, so will my interest in him playing.

It's a good point about Trindall being our starting half next year. With us letting Chad go without too much fuss to be heard, you'd assume we're not going to settle for the guy we didn't look to resign. Rivett's a bit too early in his development (I have on good authority) and then there's... part timers or park timers.

It's a bloody mess. Maybe we'll experiment at some stage, when all is mathematically lost, but there's no obvious benefit until then.

 

[bort]

It's a good point about Trindall being our starting half next year. With us letting Chad go without too much fuss to be heard, you'd assume we're not going to settle for the guy we didn't look to resign. Rivett's a bit too early in his development (I have on good authority) and then there's... part timers or park timers.

It's a bloody mess. Maybe we'll experiment at some stage, when all is mathematically lost, but there's no obvious benefit until then.

If Trindall, who tried to leave got no interest and came crawling back, is our best choice for 7 next year we are probably in trouble.

My expectation is Rivett is a while off also.

Who knows, Fitz doesn't like to break a contract but we could have an interesting Roosters Walker and Hutchinson combo for next year, no contracts broken... maybe he is slow rolling Reynold's as the backup option in case he can't get Walker...
Okay I don't actually think that is going to happen, but it's probably not significantly less likely that Trindall being our starting 7 at this stage, as I think that is also a long shot. I hope it is too.

 

[Sparkles]

If Trindall, who tried to leave got no interest and came crawling back, is our best choice for 7 next year we are probably in trouble.

My expectation is Rivett is a while off also.

Who knows, Fitz doesn't like to break a contract but we could have an interesting Roosters Walker and Hutchinson combo for next year, no contracts broken... maybe he is slow rolling Reynold's as the backup option in case he can't get Walker...
Okay I don't actually think that is going to happen, but it's probably not significantly less likely that Trindall being our starting 7 at this stage, as I think that is also a long shot. I hope it is too.

Amen brother

 

[HaroldBishop]

If Trindall, who tried to leave got no interest and came crawling back, is our best choice for 7 next year we are probably in trouble.

My expectation is Rivett is a while off also.

Who knows, Fitz doesn't like to break a contract but we could have an interesting Roosters Walker and Hutchinson combo for next year, no contracts broken... maybe he is slow rolling Reynold's as the backup option in case he can't get Walker...
Okay I don't actually think that is going to happen, but it's probably not significantly less likely that Trindall being our starting 7 at this stage, as I think that is also a long shot. I hope it is too.

If we have a Moylan/Trindall combo next year someone shoot me in the head.

 

[bort]

If we have a Moylan/Trindall combo next year someone shoot me in the head.

I'd want to have some crazy ****ing signings on the pitch carrying that pairing!

I'm surprised Walker being off contract isn't getting more attention, I guess there aren't necessarily a lot of good contenders for his signature but maybe someone like Tits with Ash Taylors mil to burn could throw an offer out there...
Not sure how bad the relationship with Broncs is.
I have every expectation Roosters retain him but I'd love to see the price tag get pushed up a bit by other offers as I think we are well positioned to grab anyone decent that gets squeezed out early to accommodate, Manu, SST, Collins etc

 

[Gal The Goat]

Not sure if this guy is the answer, but he’s still a pretty big prospect. He just might end up as one of our options as our starting 7 for next year.

With Townsend not here next year what does everyone think about giving him the 7 jersey every week to grow his game and give him a proper chance to audition to see if he’s up to being a NRL 7?

Obviously blooding young players on the end of 40 point hidings is never ideal, but under these circumstances now is probably the best opportunity to play him consistently in first grade to see how he goes.

 

[PMQ_Tony]

With Townsend not here next year what does everyone think about giving him the 7 jersey every week to grow his game and give him a proper chance to audition to see if he’s up to being a NRL 7

Nothing to lose, except more games.

In all seriousness, it's not a bad idea.

 

[bort]

Nothing to lose, except more games.

In all seriousness, it's not a bad idea.

It is a bad idea if he is not better than Chad, Moylan and SJ in the halves. The coaches (Morris and now Hannay) seem to think he is not.

 

[Gal The Goat]

It is a bad idea if he is not better than Chad, Moylan and SJ in the halves. The coaches (Morris and now Hannay) seem to think he is not.

As I said I don’t know if Trindall would be the answer, but playing Chad every week now probably isn’t either, and we won’t know without giving Trindall a proper chance either.

Atleast Trindall is a young prospect and the chance of being here next year, Chad is neither.

 

[bort]

As I said I don’t know if Trindall would be the answer, but playing Chad every week now probably isn’t either, and we won’t know without giving Trindall a proper chance either.

Atleast Trindall is a young prospect and the chance of being here next year, Chad is neither.

It is nice to know but we don't actually need to know. If the coach knows Trindall is worse than Chad there is very little incentive to play him, especially when it is more likely a Moylan SJ combo would be tried as starters before Trindall jumped two people into the starting side.

I understand what you are saying but I just think there are people, like team staff, who probably have a pretty good idea if it is worth playing Trindall or not.

 

[HaroldBishop]

I'd play him, nothing to lose.

 

[BurgoShark]

It is nice to know but we don't actually need to know. If the coach knows Trindall is worse than Chad there is very little incentive to play him, especially when it is more likely a Moylan SJ combo would be tried as starters before Trindall jumped two people into the starting side.

I understand what you are saying but I just think there are people, like team staff, who probably have a pretty good idea if it is worth playing Trindall or not.

Even then, if you are dropping someone it should be Johnson. Even his biggest detractors would have to admit that he has had at least two good games this year (the wins). Johnson has had 0.

 

[Gal The Goat]

It is nice to know but we don't actually need to know. If the coach knows Trindall is worse than Chad there is very little incentive to play him, especially when it is more likely a Moylan SJ combo would be tried as starters before Trindall jumped two people into the starting side.

I understand what you are saying but I just think there are people, like team staff, who probably have a pretty good idea if it is worth playing Trindall or not.

“we” was entire Sharks as a whole. Fitz, Hannay etc will also never know if he isn’t given a chance. Hannay has only been at the club since December too, probably could see more himself.

From all reports Johnson isn’t hanging around and Moylan was never getting re-signed.

Im thinking Trindall might end up being a genuine option next year, he might end up being very average and not deserve it but atm what are our options for 2022 in the organising 7 role? And what do we lose by giving him a shot over a player who’s not going to be here? Apart from maybe losing more games I suppose.

I would rather give him 4 or 5 straight games now in a dead season and go “Righto Trindall is definitely not an option as our future 7, time to look elsewhere”

Shaun Johnson
Sam Williams
Lachlan Lewis
Braydon Trindall
Tanah Boyd
Ryley Jacks
Cooper Johns
Sean O’Sullivan
Blake Green
Phoenix Crossland
Dean Hawkins
Benji Marshall
Drew Hutchison
Sam Walker

It’s pretty slim pickings especially if Johnson doesn’t want to be here and no way are we getting Sam Walker

 

[egg]

Bite the bullet - especially if any Johnson ongoing contract talks completely break down

Trindall and Tracey halves for 3 weeks , then make a decision
With one of the senior halves on the bench , as back up , but not Chad

The Henson Park crew deserve to treated to our premiership winning half before he heads to Cowboys .

What is there to lose ?

 

[Tatus]

It is nice to know but we don't actually need to know. If the coach knows Trindall is worse than Chad there is very little incentive to play him, especially when it is more likely a Moylan SJ combo would be tried as starters before Trindall jumped two people into the starting side.

I understand what you are saying but I just think there are people, like team staff, who probably have a pretty good idea if it is worth playing Trindall or not.

If Trindal is part of the plans for next year there is plenty of incentive. Give it a few weeks, and if we can’t get some wins on the board, give him the jumper... if he is apart of the plans next year.

Is Metcalf development? Damn, give him the jumper. If the season is gone then experience will be great for anyone who’s here

 

[Deleted member 3365]

If Trindal is part of the plans for next year there is plenty of incentive. Give it a few weeks, and if we can’t get some wins on the board, give him the jumper... if he is apart of the plans next year.

Is Metcalf development? Damn, give him the jumper. If the season is gone then experience will be great for anyone who’s here

Yeah I wouldn't mind knowing where Metcalf is in terms of picking order.

 

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“we” was entire Sharks as a whole. Fitz, Hannay etc will also never know if he isn’t given a chance. Hannay has only been at the club since December too, probably could see more himself.

From all reports Johnson isn’t hanging around and Moylan was never getting re-signed.

Im thinking Trindall might end up being a genuine option next year, he might end up being very average and not deserve it but atm what are our options for 2022 in the organising 7 role? And what do we lose by giving him a shot over a player who’s not going to be here? Apart from maybe losing more games I suppose.

I would rather give him 4 or 5 straight games now in a dead season and go “Righto Trindall is definitely not an option as our future 7, time to look elsewhere”

Fitz and Hannay are on a very different assessment/knowledge level to us, especially Hannay who literally coaches our players multiple times per week.
Hannay 100% could know Trindall is worse than Chad. I'm not NRL coach but it is within the realm of reason that if I watched Chad and Trindall both train a dozen times or more that I might be able to make a fair judgement as to which is better.
If Trindall can't show at training he is as good or better than Chad then he isn't. If Trindall is just waiting for a chance in games to break out as a solid or better NRL player but can't showup Chad at training then it is purely his own fault the chance isn't being given to him.

Some examples of players that were supposedly standouts at training before making NRL debute recently are Sam Walker and Reece Walsh. If Trindall is killing it at training by all means give him a run, I just don't think it's reasonable Hannay drop one of Chad, Moylan, Johnson either because the fans think Trindall could be better or just in case he plays NRL at a much higher standard than he trains.

If Trindal is part of the plans for next year there is plenty of incentive. Give it a few weeks, and if we can’t get some wins on the board, give him the jumper... if he is apart of the plans next year.

Is Metcalf development? Damn, give him the jumper. If the season is gone then experience will be great for anyone who’s here

Agree, if he is part of the plans. He may well not be.

Yeah I wouldn't mind knowing where Metcalf is in terms of picking order.

Probably 3rd choice fullback.
As far as halves go maybe 6th or 7th, maybe even 8th.
Just my guesses based on contract status and position he plays.