(Archived) THE RUMOUR MILL - Player Movement

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From The Mole so take it with salt, pepper, even some chili flakes:

RUDOLF CHASED BY RIVALS

If Cronulla lose rugged forward Toby Rudolf for next season, they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Rudolf is one of the most sought-after players on the open market, with half a dozen clubs after his signature.

The hard-running back-rower was a big fan of John Morris and the sacked Sharks coach had Rudolph talked into signing a new deal a few weeks back.

Morris told the board that he has Rudolf ready to put pen to paper but officials held the former coach in such contempt at that stage that they ignored his messages.

Rudolph is now fair game as a result - and cashed up rivals, headed by the Bulldogs, are circling him with big dollars.

Morris failing to make signings again tsk tsk

 

[Tiger Shark]

From The Mole so take it with salt, pepper, even some chili flakes:

RUDOLF CHASED BY RIVALS

If Cronulla lose rugged forward Toby Rudolf for next season, they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Rudolf is one of the most sought-after players on the open market, with half a dozen clubs after his signature.

The hard-running back-rower was a big fan of John Morris and the sacked Sharks coach had Rudolph talked into signing a new deal a few weeks back.

Morris told the board that he has Rudolf ready to put pen to paper but officials held the former coach in such contempt at that stage that they ignored his messages.

Rudolph is now fair game as a result - and cashed up rivals, headed by the Bulldogs, are circling him with big dollars.

The Mole has a hard on for their being a supposed player walk out in how Morris was treated. So he's going to spin everything that way. Even if they're just leaving for massive overs.

He might be on the money and Rudolf had agreed but we know how Rudolf and agreeing to things goes. Not worth anything.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Yep if someone wants to pay Rudy 650k then see ya later unfortunately.

 

[HAMMERHEAD2008]

On point there.

 

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Yep if someone wants to pay Rudy 650k then see ya later unfortunately.

But doubly so if we have been sat on a lesser contract he has agreed to for a while before the 650k even came up

 

[snowman]

none of that is true but dont let that get in the way of the moles agenda

 

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Schuster has re-signed with Manly.
Edge isn't super high priority for me but he's looked good enough in games I've seen I would have been pretty keen if suddenly was announced as coming to us (no suggestion we were in talks or anything)

 

[Sparkles]

Schuster has re-signed with Manly.
Edge isn't super high priority for me but he's looked good enough in games I've seen I would have been pretty keen if suddenly was announced as coming to us (no suggestion we were in talks or anything)

Still, it's another one off the market.
As big (probably bigger) as who the coach will be is surely who you're teammates will be. And we're nowhere near answering that question yet. That must make negotiations hard.
Imaging being a gun player considering your next contract, and you have no idea who your forwards or halves will be. You could set yourself up for a huge fall if the pieces didn't fall in the right places for you

 

[Bundy Shark]

We didn't have Fitzgibbon signed in the off season. Why are people not getting this? The club is not going to get rid of Morris till they signed their replacement. We didn't sign Fitzgibbon till that same day we told Morris and Hannay took over. Would they have wanted to do it earlier, possibly but negotiations and the process takes time.

Either way I don't think getting an interim coach earlier would have made much of a difference, players would have still known their time is up, only earlier this time. And to be honest, it probably would have just been Hannay anyway.

The players that have been tapped should be pulling their fingers out, otherwise some clubs won't be offering them the money they're after. Or they might find themselves playing for the Jets if they're not putting in what so ever. And it will only prove the club correct these players don't belong if that's their reaction.

lets assume everything you said in bold was/is fact.

You dont think we could have sat down with Bomber & said something like, 'look, this is a difficult decision, but right now, we are looking at different things, we think youve done a fair job the past 2 years but we want to try & look at a different angle, we'd love you to continue to steer the ship till seasons end & put yourself & the players in a shop window for others to negotiate with you based off the good season we want you to have'

instead of the angle we took, its not looking all the great is it?

My suggestion is not la la land stuff, we have been there & done that before to a even more loyal coach, John Lang, Lang, the playing group didnt implode, we got on with things & from memory went deep into the finals that year.

 

[Paul C]

A dam REY nolds

Thanks. Snowman is way too cool for me.

 

[CrazyMatt]

From The Mole so take it with salt, pepper, even some chili flakes:

RUDOLF CHASED BY RIVALS

If Cronulla lose rugged forward Toby Rudolf for next season, they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Rudolf is one of the most sought-after players on the open market, with half a dozen clubs after his signature.

The hard-running back-rower was a big fan of John Morris and the sacked Sharks coach had Rudolph talked into signing a new deal a few weeks back.

Morris told the board that he has Rudolf ready to put pen to paper but officials held the former coach in such contempt at that stage that they ignored his messages.

Rudolph is now fair game as a result - and cashed up rivals, headed by the Bulldogs, are circling him with big dollars.

Tony Adams has been hammering the Sharks since the Morris situation. He’s been taking every story and linking it to the way Morris was treated by the board, downright insulting the club at every turn. It’s clear now this has become an agenda now for him. I’d ignore what he writes about Cronulla for a while, at least until he stops being an arrogant ****wit, drops the agenda and goes back to what a supposed journalist should be doing. Reporting the facts in a unbiased manner.

 

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lets assume everything you said in bold was/is fact.

You dont think we could have sat down with Bomber & said something like, 'look, this is a difficult decision, but right now, we are looking at different things, we think youve done a fair job the past 2 years but we want to try & look at a different angle, we'd love you to continue to steer the ship till seasons end & put yourself & the players in a shop window for others to negotiate with you based off the good season we want you to have'

instead of the angle we took, its not looking all the great is it?

My suggestion is not la la land stuff, we have been there & done that before to a even more loyal coach, John Lang, Lang, the playing group didnt implode, we got on with things & from memory went deep into the finals that year.

Unless Fitz really had to be on the downlow for other reasons I don't see (and I've said it before) where a fairly transparent application and interview process couldn't have been used. Potentially still makes for an early breakup but hopefully could have been managed a lot smoother.

Also I think the sharks cast guy reckons he knew Fitz was coming for a month or months before it was announced, not sure what the story is with that but suggests the deal was done or all but done a long time before (although there is a big difference between done and all but done)

 

[Cage]

Tony Adams has been hammering the Sharks since the Morris situation. He’s been taking every story and linking it to the way Morris was treated by the board, downright insulting the club at every turn. It’s clear now this has become an agenda now for him. I’d ignore what he writes about Cronulla for a while, at least until he stops being an arrogant ****wit, drops the agenda and goes back to what a supposed journalist should be doing. Reporting the facts in a unbiased manner.

:lmao When did that ever happen?

 

[Sir Chadley]

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:lmao When did that ever happen?

Back in the 1970s when you had proper journos like Alan Clarkson, Ian Heads, Ernie Christensen, Ray Chesterton and the early Peter Frilingos. After Frilingos joined Hadley and his co, he then turned into the modern day journalist.

 

[Gards]

ha ha yea I was about to say looking at any mainstream media for just the facts without agenda or bias is bit of a stretch

 

[CrazyMatt]

ha ha yea I was about to say looking at any mainstream media for just the facts without agenda or bias is bit of a stretch

LOL yeah your probably right. It just maddens me how they keep getting away with it though. I’ll never understand why it’s so hard to report the facts without a biased agenda, is it just me or does that sound like a really simple thing to do?

 

[HaroldBishop]

Back in the 1970s when you had proper journos like Alan Clarkson, Ian Heads, Ernie Christensen, Ray Chesterton and the early Peter Frilingos. After Frilingos joined Hadley and his co, he then turned into the modern day journalist.

Didn't mind a slurp

 

[HaroldBishop]

LOL yeah your probably right. It just maddens me how they keep getting away with it though. I’ll never understand why it’s so hard to report the facts without a biased agenda, is it just me or does that sound like a really simple thing to do?

I love how guys like Kent and Hooper are paraded on Fox footy shows like they're experts.

No wonder I don't watch them.

 

[Gards]

LOL yeah your probably right. It just maddens me how they keep getting away with it though. I’ll never understand why it’s so hard to report the facts without a biased agenda, is it just me or does that sound like a really simple thing to do?

i'm with ya but that's not the job though mate, the job is to sell papers and clicks. subscriptions and advertising revenue is what keeps them fed. think of them more as gossip reporters. they work in a dying industry and are getting more and more desperate to stand out and stay relevant in a media space more competitive and dynamic than any time in history. just reporting on the facts without opinion or drama prob won't generate enough interest or debate for them to survive.

good luck even finding a good ol fashion NRL post game report without 80% of it dedicated to crapping on about some star players injury or ref controversy - it's a reflection of the times

not that media decades back wasn't biased and agenda fueled it's just taken on a slightly different flavour

 

[Sir Chadley]

LOL yeah your probably right. It just maddens me how they keep getting away with it though. I’ll never understand why it’s so hard to report the facts without a biased agenda, is it just me or does that sound like a really simple thing to do?

I'm with you Matty. It absolutely infuriates me how they have to create drama. But that is how the world is today.

Unfortunately, and again I am going to sound like a knob saying this, but the vast majority of the general population don't have much between the ears and will believe almost anything that is said or printed.

Now, I have no idea how it works but apparently the more clicks an article online gets the more money is generated and given to the journos. Can someone please tell me how that works?

These guys can literally print anything they want and disguise intent in some way and obviously no one brings them to account.