(Archived) THE RUMOUR MILL - Player Movement

[CHOGM]

We didn't have Fitzgibbon signed in the off season. Why are people not getting this? The club is not going to get rid of Morris till they signed their replacement. We didn't sign Fitzgibbon till that same day we told Morris and Hannay took over. Would they have wanted to do it earlier, possibly but negotiations and the process takes time.

Either way I don't think getting an interim coach earlier would have made much of a difference, players would have still known their time is up, only earlier this time. And to be honest, it probably would have just been Hannay anyway.

The players that have been tapped should be pulling their fingers out, otherwise some clubs won't be offering them the money they're after. Or they might find themselves playing for the Jets if they're not putting in what so ever. And it will only prove the club correct these players don't belong if that's their reaction.

It’s about expectations. If the players and the coach know the score for the next season during pre season the outcome will be better. Moving the goal posts after the season has started creates apathy because the players feel on the outside which is the opposite to what you want at the club.

IMO the club was never going to re sign Morris, regardless of Fitz signing or not, so they should have manned up and got ahead of it.

Name the time when a mid season coach sacking went ok for a club? And with that in mind they should have avoided it at all costs.

 

[Thresher]

I'm with you Matty. It absolutely infuriates me how they have to create drama. But that is how the world is today.

Unfortunately, and again I am going to sound like a knob saying this, but the vast majority of the general population don't have much between the ears and will believe almost anything that is said or printed.

Now, I have no idea how it works but apparently the more clicks an article online gets the more money is generated and given to the journos. Can someone please tell me how that works?

These guys can literally print anything they want and disguise intent in some way and obviously no one brings them to account.

My guess is that for fulltime staff it would be all about KPI's. More clicks the better, and to a lesser extent, the longer someone is engaged in the article is an added bonus. More clicks on average would also probably mean that your article goes up on the online homepage during peak times too, meaning you've got primetime. Primetime means your performances look even better.

For someone who is working freelance, it would be like any other contractor. If your product performed well last time there's a better chance that your product or service will be ordered again.

I've even noticed the ABC posting clickbait-type stuff in recent times. Could be the influence of Ita. Could be KPI's too.

 

[bort]

My guess is that for fulltime staff it would be all about KPI's. More clicks the better, and to a lesser extent, the longer someone is engaged in the article is an added bonus. More clicks on average would also probably mean that your article goes up on the online homepage during peak times too, meaning you've got primetime. Primetime means your performances look even better.

For someone who is working freelance, it would be like any other contractor. If your product performed well last time there's a better chance that your product or service will be ordered again.

I've even noticed the ABC posting clickbait-type stuff in recent times. Could be the influence of Ita. Could be KPI's too.

And I'd assume 'clicks = ad/subscription revenue' is where the money comes from

 

[Sharkmate]

It’s about expectations. If the players and the coach know the score for the next season during pre season the outcome will be better. Moving the goal posts after the season has started creates apathy because the players feel on the outside which is the opposite to what you want at the club.

IMO the club was never going to re sign Morris, regardless of Fitz signing or not, so they should have manned up and got ahead of it.

Name the time when a mid season coach sacking went ok for a club? And with that in mind they should have avoided it at all costs.

I believe a win over the Raiders or Eels would have prolonged the sacking and a decision made after the Roosters game, a win he gets re-signed, a loss he gets sacked. The board want top 4 and the only way you are going to make it is to beat top 4 sides.

 

[HaroldBishop]

I believe a win over the Raiders or Eels would have prolonged the sacking and a decision made after the Roosters game, a win he gets re-signed, a loss he gets sacked. The board want top 4 and the only way you are going to make it is to beat top 4 sides.

Not really, we made the 8 last year without beating a top 8 side. But I know what you're saying.

 

[stormshark]

Schuster has re-signed with Manly.
Edge isn't super high priority for me but he's looked good enough in games I've seen I would have been pretty keen if suddenly was announced as coming to us (no suggestion we were in talks or anything)

Schuster the Rooster, in pretty tight with the Recruitment

 

[Sparkles]

I love how guys like Kent and Hooper are paraded on Fox footy shows like they're experts.

No wonder I don't watch them.

And then all the Fox NRL stories are just reporting the sensationalist rubbish they said the night before

 

[Sparkles]

And I'd assume 'clicks = ad/subscription revenue' is where the money comes from

Yeah, I've seen journo's quoted as much. They write to click potential

 

[HaroldBishop]

And then all the Fox NRL stories are just reporting the sensationalist rubbish they said the night before

Haha yeah I've noticed that. Another website I rarely look at.

 

[bort]

Haha yeah I've noticed that. Another website I rarely look at.

Write an article
Talk about it on the show
Write basically same article but with a quote from Cronk/Ennis/whoever
(continue cycle if getting new clicks or write new article about something else and restart cycle)

 

[egg]

Reports on other forum .
Reynolds told Souths players he's signed with Broncos

 

[HaroldBishop]

Reports on other forum .
Reynolds told Souths players he's signed with Broncos

Wow, that really surprises me. Must have got a whopping deal to go to that ****hole.

 

[Jaz]

Reports on other forum .
Reynolds told Souths players he's signed with Broncos

I think this came from a fake Buzz twitter account. Not that a fake Buzz is any less reliable than tomato head himself.

 

[Tatus]

Do we turn our attention to Mitchell Moses?

 

[CrazyMatt]

Do we turn our attention to Mitchell Moses?

Looks like he’s staying at Parra.

 

[Sharkmate]

Do we turn our attention to Mitchell Moses?

Not for the $1.1M that Andrew Johns said he is worth.

 

[egg]

Only a rumour as of yet .
If he did tell team mates .
That would leak pretty quick

 

[Thresher]

And I'd assume 'clicks = ad/subscription revenue' is where the money comes from

Yeah, and traffic stats would be used in attracting and negotiating advertising campaigns etc.

 

[bort]

I think this came from a fake Buzz twitter account. Not that a fake Buzz is any less reliable than tomato head himself.

Any fake account would have a scarily close % of correct calls to the actual journos haha

 

[CHOGM]

lets assume everything you said in bold was/is fact.

You dont think we could have sat down with Bomber & said something like, 'look, this is a difficult decision, but right now, we are looking at different things, we think youve done a fair job the past 2 years but we want to try & look at a different angle, we'd love you to continue to steer the ship till seasons end & put yourself & the players in a shop window for others to negotiate with you based off the good season we want you to have'

instead of the angle we took, its not looking all the great is it?

My suggestion is not la la land stuff, we have been there & done that before to a even more loyal coach, John Lang, Lang, the playing group didnt implode, we got on with things & from memory went deep into the finals that year.

Exactly.