(Archived) THE RUMOUR MILL - Player Movement

[egg]

Sportingnews ran an article that the reason Lyall left was because he and Flanno didn't get on in the end .
One had to go .

 

[CrankyShark]

What's the point of arguing about dollars and cents when no one has the exact amounts of what players are actually on.

Quite clearly we do have room under the cap, by the mere fact that we're talking to Pearce.

You don't need to know what players are on. The numeric value of the cap is irrelevant except during the cap raise period. A simple count of the number of top tier players is required. For example, everyone knew that Melbourne was cheating back in the day because they had too many big wheels, Slater, Cronk, Inglis and Smith.

Signing Pearce all sounds a little bit too good to be true, unless the cards are falling our way with the increase in the cap, ie. some of our players are losing out with the cap raise.

 

[FLEETY]

I really don't want to move Val back to the wing because I'm worried we'll lose him.

Why would he leave? He loses nothing.
Got the higher dollars, would more likely score more often, at rep level only plays wing anyway, and can still gain more ball skill and defensive awareness for a future switch to fullback.

 

[CrankyShark]

Why would he leave? He loses nothing.
Got the higher dollars, would more likely score more often, at rep level only plays wing anyway, and can still gain more ball skill and defensive awareness for a future switch to fullback.

Seriously? It's all glory at fullback compared with the wing.

Val signed for unders on good faith that he would be the next long term fullback. He leaves he earns big money at fullback at any bottom eight club with a view to bigger and better things.

 

[northofthebordershark]

Sportingnews ran an article that the reason Lyall left was because he and Flanno didn't get on in the end .
One had to go .

If true that seems strange.

Lyall appeared to be doing a great job and Flanno delivered on field success, can't undersrand what the major problem would be?

 

[Gards]

Sportingnews ran an article that the reason Lyall left was because he and Flanno didn't get on in the end .
One had to go .

This was always my suspicion - I reckon Flanno did a mini-Hayne on ol Lyall

Remember back in 2015 was it the rumours came up during the Fifita drama's or whatever it was that Franno and Lyalz didn't see eye to eye

Then you have this apology to fans and NRL letter from Flanno after the finals, obviously mandated from the top at Sharks management
He would have been gritting his teeth signing off on that communication flanno ha ha

Then the talk of Flanno have management interference in the football department it all comes together and looks to add up as I don't think Lyall really wanted to leave just yet. The Manly move never made that much sense other than for 'travel reasons'

 

[common]

If you move Val to the wing, who would you put at FB?

Not too sure, mate. That is the problem. I just don't see Val developing into a great FB. Happy to be proven wrong on that.

 

[CrankyShark]

If true that seems strange.

Lyall appeared to be doing a great job and Flanno delivered on field success, can't undersrand what the major problem would be?

It doesn't surprise me. When does Flanno look like he hasn't sucked on a lemon. Some people always feel wronged and I suspect that is what lies behind Flanno's outwardly miserably persona. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that gets along with people.


Flanno is one of those types who always thinks he has been wronged by the world.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

Seriously? It's all glory at fullback compared with the wing.

Val signed for unders on good faith that he would be the next long term fullback. He leaves he earns big money at fullback at any bottom eight club with a view to bigger and better things.

More glory scoring 20 tries on the wing in a season with spectacular finishing than being a pretty good fullback. Fact, val could be 1 Of the best wingers in the game. Wont be top 5 fbs

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

It doesn't surprise me. When does Flanno look like he hasn't sucked on a lemon. Some people always feel wronged and I suspect that is what lies behind Flanno's outwardly miserably persona. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that gets along with people.


Flanno is one of those types who always thinks he has been wronged by the world.

What about that time Flanno talked to Flash regarding a transfer then Lyall over ruled it. Obviously communication is key but surely a coach and hos football department should get some say in that sorta stuff.

 

[CrankyShark]

More glory scoring 20 tries on the wing in a season with spectacular finishing than being a pretty good fullback. Fact, val could be 1 Of the best wingers in the game. Wont be top 5 fbs

I see fullback as a glory position and it pays accordingly. Val won't be prepared to admit he can't hit the top five at this stage I would hope.

Don't get me wrong. If Val would take 600k to play on the wing it would be worth working that into the cap. I don't see it though.

 

[Thresher]

It doesn't surprise me. When does Flanno look like he hasn't sucked on a lemon. Some people always feel wronged and I suspect that is what lies behind Flanno's outwardly miserably persona. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that gets along with people.


Flanno is one of those types who always thinks he has been wronged by the world.

Funny how much perceptions can differ. He comes across as a nice guy from what I've seen. He won't be walked over but the playing group generally seem to like him (apart from Maloney, Gardner and Ike and probably Bird now. and maybe some other fellas who are dirty that they didn't get much of a run).

The only real time I can remember him having a whinge he copped that 30k fine.

 

[CrankyShark]

What about that time Flanno talked to Flash regarding a transfer then Lyall over ruled it. Obviously communication is key but surely a coach and hos football department should get some say in that sorta stuff.

I agree Flanno was entirely in the right on that one, and that that the football department should run the football side of thing. My point was Flanno appears grumpy and hard to get along with at the best of times and unable to let things go.

Who should win between Flanno and Lyall? I give Flanno the credit not Lyall. However, Flanno has a downside.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

I agree Flanno was entirely in the right on that one, and that that the football department should run the football side of thing. My point was Flanno appears grumpy and hard to get along with at the best of times and unable to let things go.

Who should win between Flanno and Lyall? I give Flanno the credit not Lyall. However, Flanno has a downside.

Flanno definitely is a grump, but im the same so i wont judge. Look at the polar opposite though, Nathan Brown, gets a 62-0 raping and still puts a smile on, surely newy fans grew sick of watchin that.

 

[Gards]

Flanno seems nice enough on the surface but he isn't a guy you want to get on the wrong side of

I still remember this time back in one of the apartments I was renting out with mates when I debated the call out fee on an invoice he sent me from unblocking my toilet.
I said I wasn't paying that portion of the bill - he said fine. Next day he rocks up at mine saying he left a tool behind in the bathroom. I walk in on him 5 minutes later and there he is blocking my dunny back up with a big bag of ****

"There's your refund mate"

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

Flanno seems nice enough on the surface but he isn't a guy you want to get on the wrong side of

I still remember this time back in one of the apartments I was renting out with mates when I debated the call out fee on an invoice he sent me from unblocking my toilet.
I said I wasn't paying that portion of the bill - he said fine. Next day he rocks up at mine saying he left a tool behind in the bathroom. I walk in on him 5 minutes later and there he is blocking my dunny back up with a big bag of ****

"There's your refund mate"

Probably got the bag of **** off gumtree too

 

[CrankyShark]

Funny how much perceptions can differ. He comes across as a nice guy from what I've seen. He won't be walked over but the playing group generally seem to like him (apart from Maloney, Gardner and Ike and probably Bird now. and maybe some other fellas who are dirty that they didn't get much of a run).

The only real time I can remember him having a whinge he copped that 30k fine.

He isn't exactly Mary Poppins though. lol

He reminds me of Wayne Bennett in some ways. He has his way with the players, but it is hard to understand the attraction. He has grown on me as a coach a lot though.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

He isn't exactly Mary Poppins though. lol

He reminds me of Wayne Bennett in some ways. He has his way with the players, but it is hard to understand the attraction. He has grown on me as a coach a lot though.

Isnt this the problem with professional sport though? You have all this media coverage etc and we draw our opinions of players abd coaches from that. Like wayne bennett could be a real nice dude, and obviously is carrying a fair sausage on him to be snaggin these younger birds but all we see is him in costanza mode. Flannos the same. Met him once or twice and post games etc, always happy to say gday to fans etc. in a professional capacity, its really not our problem, if players wanna play for him then great

 

[CrankyShark]

Flanno was criticised in a big way on here for not being aggressive enough as a coach prior to 2016, myself included. However, he found very considerable aggression in the premiership year, i.e. he adapted to a more attacking team. He took the two but was way more flamboyant than I ever expected.

Will he adapt to not being able to take the two reliably next year and have a crack at the line after a penalty more? I'm hoping he will adapt again and go for more tries.

 

[Thresher]

Flanno seems nice enough on the surface but he isn't a guy you want to get on the wrong side of

I still remember this time back in one of the apartments I was renting out with mates when I debated the call out fee on an invoice he sent me from unblocking my toilet.
I said I wasn't paying that portion of the bill - he said fine. Next day he rocks up at mine saying he left a tool behind in the bathroom. I walk in on him 5 minutes later and there he is blocking my dunny back up with a big bag of ****

"There's your refund mate"

Glad he didn't become a doctor.